Lessons from a Mole Cricket! - Lucas Frame Data (Incomplete)

[Indigo Jeans]

Lessons from a Mole Cricket! - Lucas Moveset + Frame Data​

Frame data for our favourite PSI powered youth!

Jabs, Tilts, and Dash Attack​

Jab 1

• Damage: 2.5%
• Hits on: F2
• FAF: F19
• Jab transition
  • Jab 1: F18
  • Jab 2: F16

Jab 2

• Damage: 2%
• Hits on: F3
• FAF: F19
• Jab transition:

Jab 3

• Damage: 4%
• Hits on: F6
• FAF: F29

FTilt

• Damage: 7.5% (hand), 11% (hexagons)
• Hits on: F7
• FAF: F25

UTilt

• Damage
  • Setup hit: 1.5%
  • Hexagons: 8% early, 5% late
• Hits on
  • Setup hit: F4
  • Strong finisher: F7
• FAF: F36

DTilt

• Damage: 3%
• Hits on: F3
• FAF: F15

Dash Attack

• Damage: 9% (near body), 13% (hexagons)
• Hits on:
• FAF: F38

Smashes and Aerials​

FSmash

• Damage
  • Smash: 14% (base), 15% (tip)
  • Reflect: ×1.5
• Hits on: F14
  
• FAF: F46

USmash

• Damage
  • Setup hit: 2%
  • Hexagons: 19% > 18% > 16% > 14% > 12%
• Hits on
  • Setup hit: F28
  • Hexagons: F30
• Invincibility: F1-F4 (whole body)
  
• FAF: F99

DSmash

• Damage
  • First shot: 17%
  • Second shot: 14%
  • Third shot: 11%
• Hits on
  • First shot: F20
  • Second shot: F29
  • Third shot: F39
• FAF: F63

NAir

• Damage
  • Weak hits: 1% ×4, Electric
  • Strong finisher: 4%, Electric
• Hits on
  • Weak hits: F7, F12, F17, F22
  • Strong finisher: F26
• FAF (Landing lag): F44 (13F)

FAir

• Damage: 8% (foot), 11.5% (hexagons)
• Hits on: F9
• FAF (Landing lag): F41(15F)

BAir

• Damage: 12% (hexagons sweetspot), 9% (body sourspot), 7% (hexagons sourspot)
• Hits on: F15 (Last active on F17?)
• FAF (Landing lag): F39 (15F)

UAir

• Damage: 13%
• Hits on: F7
• FAF (Landing lag): F45 (12F)

DAir

• Damage
  • Weak kicks: 3.5% ×3, Magic
  • Strong kick: 5%, Magic
• Hits on:
  • Weak kicks: F10, F18, F26
  • Strong kick: F34
• FAF (Landing lag): F56 (24F)

ZAir

• Damage: 4% early, 2.8% late
• Hits on: F9 (Last active F19?)
• FAF (Landing lag): F59 (8F)

Grabs, Throws, and Pummel

Grab

• Grabs on
  • Standing: F12 (Last active F18?)
  • Dashing: F13
  • Pivot: F11
• FAF
  • Standing: F55
  • Dashing: F65
  • Pivot:

Specials​

PK Freeze

• Damage
  • Uncharged: 9%, Ice
  • Fully charged: 22%, Ice
• Hits on
  • Uncharged: F40
  • Fully charged: F89
• FAF (Landing lag)
  • Uncharged: F66 (31F)
  • Fully charged: F115 (31F)

PK Fire

• Damage
  • Contact: 3%, Explosives Contact (?)
  • Explosion: 6%, Fire
• Hits on
  • Earliest
    • Contact: F21
    • Explosion: F22
  • Latest⁽¹⁾
    • Contact: F35
    • Explosion: F36
• FAF (Landing lag)⁽²⁾: F52 (23F)

PK Thunder

• Damage
  • PK Thunder 1
    • Head: 2.5%
    • Tail: 0.67%
  • PK Thunder 2
    • Contact: 8%
    • Weak hits: 2% ×5 (first half), 1.5% ×5 (second half)
    • Strong finisher: 10%
• Hits on
  • PK Thunder 1
    • Head: F20
    • Tail: F26, F32, F38, F44, F50... (every 6F)
  • PK Thunder 2
    • Contact: F1
    • Weak hits: F4, F6, F9, F12, F15, F18, F21, F24, F27, F30
    • Strong finisher: F33
• FAF (landing lag)
  • PK Thunder 1⁽³⁾: F69 (31F)
  • PK Thunder 2: F65 (31F)

PSI Magnet

• Damage: 8%
• Hits on⁽⁴⁾
  • Absorb: F10
  • Ending shock: F17
• Damage healed = ([damage absorbed] × 2.5) ≤ 30%
• FAF⁽⁴⁾: F35

Jump​

Jumpsquat: 4F
Soft landing lag: 2F
Hard landing lag: 5F

Spoiler: Notes

⁽¹⁾: Assuming the last frame the projectile is visible is also its last active frame
⁽²⁾: FAF is the same for both aerial and grounded endings
⁽³⁾: Counting starting on the first frame the projectile disappears; max projectile duration is F20-137 (118F) (gone F138)
⁽⁴⁾: Assuming minimum hold time

 

[Kangaexe]

Would love to know the lag on his Aerials to see if he's really as bad as he feels

 

[LiamMail]

Would love to know the lag on his Aerials to see if he's really as bad as he feels

nair has barely any lag, no lag at all if you fast fall it. bair is good, laggiest has to be either fair, dair or uair, but none of them are as bad as marth's fair

 

[Kangaexe]

nair has barely any lag, no lag at all if you fast fall it. bair is good, laggiest has to be either fair, dair or uair, but none of them are as bad as marth's fair

yeah i know, i just wanna know my options as a ZSS main frame data means a lot lol

 

[Irsic]

I'm looking for the super armor data on Lucas' upsmash. I'm playing around with it right now, and it seems incredible. I'm just looking to find what the vulnerbilities are on start up. Do you have access to that data?

 

[Kangaexe]

I'm looking for the super armor data on Lucas' upsmash. I'm playing around with it right now, and it seems incredible. I'm just looking to find what the vulnerbilities are on start up. Do you have access to that data?

also interested

 

[XOSugar]

Is it the second frame of his b-air that spikes? I'm trying to do it at 1/4 speed in training, but I can't get it.

 

[XOSugar]

also interested

Grab.

 

[Masque]

I've been hit out of Usmash several times, so I'm really curious as to when the super armor begins and ends.

 

[Drippy]

Can we get a sticky for this?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Frame data for jabs, tilts, dash attack, and smashes is up. USmash has whole body invinicibility on F1-F4.

I go in to work a little earlier today than usual so I'll try and get more data up before then.

 

[Peppa]

I'm really liking those frame datas.
I feel like once people play against him the hardest part will be getting the kill, since grab comes out so slow as well as the smashes, and you can't lock people in PK Fire, but his neutral will be pretty decent with his air mobility.

 

[XOSugar]

I'm really liking those frame datas.
I feel like once people play against him the hardest part will be getting the kill, since grab comes out so slow as well as the smashes, and you can't lock people in PK Fire, but his neutral will be pretty decent with his air mobility.

I think he has plenty of tools to end the neutral game. PK fire has plenty of knockback for endgame. And f-smash comes out stupid fast. Once they're off the stage, he has two viable aerial spikes, and can gimp poor recoveries (like C. Falcon) with PK thunder.

Also if they can't ledge snap instantly (like Bowser, C. Falcon, etc.), b-air has a hit box at the ledge which will spike.

I think he's new Diddy. I'm gonna main the **** out of him until the nerf cannon comes.

 

[Peppa]

I think he has plenty of tools to end the neutral game. PK fire has plenty of knockback for endgame. And f-smash comes out stupid fast. Once they're off the stage, he has two viable aerial spikes, and can gimp poor recoveries (like C. Falcon) with PK thunder.

Also if they can't ledge snap instantly (like Bowser, C. Falcon, etc.), b-air has a hit box at the ledge which will spike.

I think he's new Diddy. I'm gonna main the **** out of him until the nerf cannon comes.

I'm not sure about being the new Diddy, but I did forget how good fsmash is already. Its amazing how good it catches rolls and can combo from dtilt.

 

[XOSugar]

I'm not sure about being the new Diddy, but I did forget how good fsmash is already. Its amazing how good it catches rolls and can combo from dtilt.

Maybe it's just because he's new, but admittedly, my roommate had a approx. 70% win rate over me. After Lucas (which I know has only been a couple of days), I've been sweeping the whole house pretty easily. Two stocks are getting more and more common. Hopefully I'm the only one that thinks he's OP, because I'd love to keep him where he is now.

 

[Dumbfire]

Woah, this is extraordinary! Frame 2 jab, frame 3 Dtilt, Frame 4 Utilt, Frame 7 Ftilt! You know Link's fastest movie is frame 7 jab, this is godlike for me.

 

[Mr.Lee]

Frame data for jabs, tilts, dash attack, and smashes is up. USmash has whole body invinicibility on F1-F4.

I go in to work a little earlier today than usual so I'll try and get more data up before then.

Not trying to rush you or anything but when will you have the rest of the frame data out?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Probably by tomorrow (well, today I guess)

Added data for aerials, PK Freeze, and PK Fire. Turns out all of Lucas's PSI aerials ARE electric attribute EXCEPT DAir, THOUGH it does have increased hitlag (so my predictions werent too far off!)

NAir is a gdlk aerial btw

 

[Masque]

NAir is a gdlk aerial btw

It combos into itself. It's glorious!

 

[Kodystri]

Probably by tomorrow (well, today I guess)

Added data for aerials, PK Freeze, and PK Fire. Turns out all of Lucas's PSI aerials ARE electric attribute EXCEPT DAir, THOUGH it does have increased hitlag (so my predictions werent too far off!)

NAir is a gdlk aerial btw

Don't spam it too much because i have taken a Roy hilted FSmash to the face rofl.