Legend of Zelda Legend of Zelda: Evolutionary Theories

[Clownbot]

Many theories of evolution are brought up in hardcore Zelda fanboy discussion. The evolution of the Kokiri, the ancestors of the Rito, etc....

This thread is for all discussion pertaining to evolutionary theories in the Zelda timeline.

 

[Skrlx]

The Oocca confuse me on how they managed to build something as elaborate as the sky temple.

They seem pretty interesting

 

[Clownbot]

The Oocca confuse me on how they managed to build something as elaborate as the sky temple.

They seem pretty interesting

Evolutionary theory on the Oocca (taken directly from zeldawiki):

It is implied by Shad that it was the Oocca who created the Hylians. Contradicting this theory is the idea that the Hylians were created after the image of the Three Goddesses. It may be that Shad has them confused with another race. It is also possible that the Goddesses created the Oocca, and then got the idea for the Hylians from them, creating them shortly afterward.

Another theory states that the Oocca were originally a highly evolved race that created many of the "divine" structures across Hyrule, but years of isolation made them devolve into the weak forms they now hold. This theory is supported by the fact that the Dominion Rod, an Oocca artifact, was stored inside the Temple of Time, which was always considered to be a sacred place to the Goddesses. Similarly, the Clawshot also seems to be an Oocca artifact, since one is located in the City in the Sky. If this is true, the Oocca may have influenced the Zoras, as a second Clawshot located in the Lakebed Temple. This could mean that the Oocca did not create the Hylian race, but instead were so highly advanced that the Hylians thought of them as gods, basing their mythology and culture off of Oocca leavings. So technically the Oocca could have "created" the Hylian race by giving it identity. It is known that the Oocca once had good contact with the Royal Family of Hyrule.

Also, on a different note, there's a species of enemy that's always interested me in the LoZ series: Gohma.

In the first LoZ, Gohma is simply an armored spider creature. For the most part, that's how it is in OoT as well. In Oracle of Seasons, it has a more crablike appearance. In Wind Waker, however, Gohma had an appearance more like that of a scorpion, and it shows a relation to the Magtail species (who bear a more centipede-like look, and are also found in the Dragon Roost Caverns, where Gohma is the boss). In TP, it's an arachnid again, bearing resemblance to a tarantula.

Throughout the entire timeline, their variations are all relative to arthropods.

I just thought found it interesting.

 

[zaneebaslave]

It is odd that so many evolutionary theories are in the zelda fanbase...

I mean, it sort of kills the magical quality of the game by trying to explain everything about it through a scientific means. Which isnt all that bad, but honestly, does it really have significance?

 

[Phantom7]

In OoT, there's a Gossip Stone in Sacred Forest Meadow that says Kaepora Gaebora is the incarnation of an ancient sage -- probably the Sage of Light.

 

[StinkomanFan]

I say that most of the main species come from the same ancestry, but several groups were spread into different regions to become Zoras, Hylians, Gorons, Kukori, and Gerudoes are the same genus, but through evolution they appear different.

 

[Mewter]

I say that most of the main species come from the same ancestry, but several groups were spread into different regions to become Zoras, Hylians, Gorons, Kukori, and Gerudoes are the same genus, but through evolution they appear different.

I say that the Rito evolved way too quickly if they really did come from the Zoras.
Nay, I smell divine trickery.

 

[zaneebaslave]

I say that the Rito evolved way too quickly if they really did come from the Zoras.
Nay, I smell divine trickery.

If the zora's wanted to be birds, then dag nab it, let them be birds!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Maybe it's more along the lines of some kind of metamorphisis...Since they couldn't have evolved in that little a time.

Funny, according to that "Future animal" documentary fish eventually evolve to birds-like creatures and rule the sky, because bird will eventually die out.

 

[Clownbot]

What about the supposed connection between the Rito and Sheikah?

 

[Phantom7]

Honestly, the Rito are probably an entirely new tribe introduced shortly following the creation of the Great Sea and are not evolved from the other tribes, with the only relationship between them being that the Sages were incarnates of one another.

After all, Kaepora Gaebora is an incarnation of Rauru, the Sage of Light, and he's an owl. Now does that mean owls evolved from humans? Of course not, because humans existed the same time as Kaepora Gaebora. Apparently, none of you understood the significance in my last post.

 

[Clownbot]

No, I understood the significance; the thing is, Sheikah and Zora didn't appear in WW, did they?

 

[Phantom7]

No, probably because the Sheikah all drowned with the Gorons when Hyrule was flooded...

The Zoras? Who knows, but the point is, significant Hylian characters can incarnate into each other without the evolution. They must have all died out, somehow...

 

[Clownbot]

Are you saying that the spirit of the race(s) live(s) on in the Rito...?

 

[Phantom7]

Probably. The spirit of Rauru obviously lives on in Kaepora Gaebora (which is actually kind of a creepy thought).

 

[zaneebaslave]

No, probably because the Sheikah all drowned with the Gorons when Hyrule was flooded...

Wait... what? The gorons arent dead in Wind Waker. They are around. Just... not in the vicinity of where Link voyaged. Gorons were salesmen in the game.

The zora's? Well, yes. They probably all died. Edit: Well, no, I cant say that either. Because that little Rito girl-thing was the incarnate of the zora sage. So..... um...

The zora's... live?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Goron's apparently don't even need to breath, as shown in Twilight Princess

 

[Phantom7]

The zora's? Well, yes. They probably all died. Edit: Well, no, I cant say that either. Because that little Rito girl-thing was the incarnate of the zora sage. So..... um...

Just because she incarnated from a Sage doesn't mean the Zora race is still in existence. The Sage of Water could have easily died and reincarnated into a Rito after the Zora tribe was extinct; that doesn't call for any evolution between the two tribes either.

 

[etecoon]

the zora can't be extinct, they are present in LTTP which takes place, presumably, centuries after WW...although they look totally different and shoot fireballs at you lol

then again idk what to think about LTTP, pretty odd that all the names of everything correlate to OoT's hyrule given the time span between believed to be between them and that it was flooded, the land that grows from WW's ocean may be totally different too(the koroks tell you of their plan to fill the ocean with land by growing tree's...)

 

[Phantom7]

The problem with that, though, is that it's even more unlikely that Zoras evolve into Rito then back to Zoras. The Zoras probably all lived under the Great Sea the entire time, and reappeared with Hyrule's reappearance. The Sheikahs were actually banished from Hyrule many centuries before.

 

[Volkner582]

Evolutionary theory on the Oocca (taken directly from zeldawiki):



Also, on a different note, there's a species of enemy that's always interested me in the LoZ series: Gohma.

In the first LoZ, Gohma is simply an armored spider creature. For the most part, that's how it is in OoT as well. In Oracle of Seasons, it has a more crablike appearance. In Wind Waker, however, Gohma had an appearance more like that of a scorpion, and it shows a relation to the Magtail species (who bear a more centipede-like look, and are also found in the Dragon Roost Caverns, where Gohma is the boss). In TP, it's an arachnid again, bearing resemblance to a tarantula.

Throughout the entire timeline, their variations are all relative to arthropods.

I just thought found it interesting.

And every time you fight them, their weak point is the eye.