Least technical character in SSBM?

[CmRoddy]

I just wanted to know who you guys think is the least technical character in the game. I know Sheik is high up there, but is there any specific character you guys think is pretty... not technical?

 

[pdk]

in before marth

 

[Boonerstreet]

Jiggly seems pretty simple to me.

 

[Zgetto]

peach,marth and sheik
atleast i think you dont need to be really technical to be good with them(ofcourse its possible to be technical with them)

 

[Ghetto Fabulous]

The least technical character is definately game and watch, cause you can't l cancel his u-air, b-air, or n-air

 

[dReAMCloUd - Assault K 40]

Wow you need to be technical with all those players.........you just probably aren't and won't go far unless you are......BTW technical means more than requiring l-cancelling and good wavedashing.

Zelda requires the least technical skill. Spacing and l-cancelling that's all.....nothing more. No combos.

 

[F8AL]

I'd say Marth because he's easy to use and great for beginners.

 

[Aiko]

i think with peach you have to be very technical to be good. theres lots of stuff like float cancels, vidjo drops etc. the only simple thing with her is recovery and down smash. even turnips can be technical if you constantly re-use them.

i'd also agree with jiggs, unless your going for stuff like ledge-cancelled sings and rest combos, which in comparison to other characters, are relatively simple.

possibly captain falcon aswell as he relies on the standard SHFFL's and the knee. correct me if i'm wrong on that as i'm not a CF player.

 

[Zgetto]

i think with peach you have to be very technical to be good. theres lots of stuff like float cancels, vidjo drops etc. the only simple thing with her is recovery and down smash. even turnips can be technical if you constantly re-use them.

i'd also agree with jiggs, unless your going for stuff like ledge-cancelled sings and rest combos, which in comparison to other characters, are relatively simple.

possibly captain falcon aswell as he relies on the standard SHFFL's and the knee. correct me if i'm wrong on that as i'm not a CF player.

i have a pretty technical fox and peaches who are nearly as technical as me can be just as good
with technical i think of quick finger movements and you dont need that for peach, marth or sheik.(unlike fox or falco and captian falcon)

 

[Ghostype]

correct me if i'm wrong on that as i'm not a CF player.

You need a solid level of technical skill to play him well.

And my vote goes to Bowser, unless you're into his ledge game (who isn't?), he's not complicated at all. And his ledge game is simple as well.

 

[SirroMinus1]

the topic is not most tech it is leas srry if i spelled it wrong i g2g with shiek but most would b peach

 

[Grand Mango]

Probably Sheik would be the easiest to learn since there's almost no learning curve.

 

[Mcscruff]

sheik, because l cancelling isn't necessary and it's not mandatory to know how to wavedash to play her (unlike luigi and maybe fox).

 

[pockyD]

jiggs jiggs jiggs

 

[phanna]

Marth's hardest techniques are subsets of things other characters are also faced with, such as teching, spacing, l-cancelling, etc. I definitely think Marth is the 'least technical,' though still requires a great deal of precision, experience, and ability to play well, as any character does.

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

Zelda. Everyone else mentioned has legitimate combos, which require at least a bit of technical skill to pull off. Zelda's combos are very rarely legitimate. She does require good spacing, mindgames, etc, which all characters require anyway.

 

[ChozenOne]

Jiggs, and Peach do not require l canceling too much. Neither does Shiek..

Mario+Doc are the easiest to Short Hop with..

Marth randomly wins w/ tippers, and range....

I would almost certainly say-->

<--Easiest-->

1. Shiek
2. Peach
3. Marth
4. Jiggs
5. Mario

the above list is only at entry level play..

@ a high level among pros the list would look more like this-

1. Gannon
2. Zelda
3. Bowser
4. Picachu
5. Shiek??

 

[MaskedMarth]

Link can be a pretty untechnical character. He doesn't need wavedashing at all, and his ground attacks or full jump aerials are usually more useful than shffl's. Also, Link plays at range with projectiles, so he doesn't need to have the sophisticated movement of Fox or Marth.

 

[Zink]

I think Marth is more technical than people give credit for, with double fair combos and CTing.

 

[Return_to_Sender]

Link does require some skill to create combos and be able to SHFFL well with uairs and a good camper with stage control.

I'd say shiek, and gannon cuz just SHFFL alot with gannon and look for openings and spacing

 

[Fefnir Cerveau]

Zelda. Everyone else mentioned has legitimate combos, which require at least a bit of technical skill to pull off. Zelda's combos are very rarely legitimate. She does require good spacing, mindgames, etc, which all characters require anyway.

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[linkmastersword]

hahaha, chozen, get ganon off that list!

ummm, clearly you "could" be technical with every character, but some characters don't need to be technical to be good with them... i.e. sheik, peach, marth.

so that's what makes them the least technical.

Ganon I think is one of the most technical, because let's face it, he's not gonna be a threat if he isn't technical. the only thing about it, is that he is slow and the person playing him has all sorts of time to perform the advanced techs, unlike his good ol buddy cf. I'd say ganon is one of the easiest characters to be technical with, but by no means is he the least technical.

I don't know if that made sense, but that's how I feel. oh, and certain things like ledgedashing, ledgehop uair, ledgegrabbing, ledgedashgrabbing are all extremely difficult to learn and I feel require more tech skill than waveshining and pillaring with the spacies. ganon's ledge game has so much potential, but it's just so frickin hard! and let's face it, if you are a ganon main, you better learn how to ledge tech.

 

[1o11oo1o11]

I'd say Mewtwo.

 

[Aminar]

In my experience Roy is usually the least technical. He requires quite a bit less finesse than Marth at low level Gameplay. At mid to high level play people do better with marth. Shiek is fairly easy to learn as well.

 

[ChozenOne]

Actually to be honest i think that at a high level of play characters that only inflict 1-2 hit combos require the least technical skill due to not having to follow DI n' such.

On ChainGrabbing.. it's not hard. Even M2K has admitted to it not taking skill soo...

On The bottom list.. it is based on the assumption that everyone @ that point can LC n' such.. Obiously Bowser is difficult to WD w/ and Ganon is hard to LC w/ but once mastered there are other factors that make a character difficult to play technically. I think it's alright to assume that w/ more avalible times for failure, failure probabiliity increases.. aka longer combos-->easy to screw up doing..

On Link's WD.. WDing is good for everyone. If you think WDing is bad, then try playing against a good Falcon w/out WD....

Good Day Sirs.

 

[wuthefwasthat]

bowser. its so hard to imagine a technical bowser... a good bowser doesnt even need to know how to ledgetech or platform dash. DI isnt very effective for him since hes so heavy. there is nothing fancy to bowser, and he's slow as hell. it's all mindgames and edgeguarding, which is where his only combos come. bowser wins by far.

GAW is pretty untechnical, but the dudes a bit faster than bowser, and the l-cancelling when you do need it, is a bit harder. plus, there are panspikes and dair spikes.

jiggly is usually not very technical... but he can played fairly technically - look at king with his crazy rest comboes and WoPing. it actually takes much more skill than one might think

zelda and sheik are both up there as well

everyone else u need decent tech skill to play well.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

I believe that Game & Watch is the least technical character. Not because some of his aerials can't be L-canceled, but because he is a very simple and straightforward character. The most you'll need is WD and L-Canceling. I believe he's also extremely easy to use. Mew2King once said:

Spam a lotta Fairs and CC down tilts

And that's about it. He has plenty of moves that kill. You can dtilt, any smash, fair, nair...not to mention the nair is HUGE and all of his moves have insane priority. If your opponent's over 100%, just spam nair, fair, or dtilt and they're going to get killed by it eventually. All of his moves are disjointed hitboxes.

Edgeguarding is very simple for G&W. You can stick out the chair (ftilt), dtilt, or you can hop out there and nair, fair, or dair them. Ftilt and dtilt are definitely the easiest edgeguards though. Just stand on the edge and spam it, they'll run right into the tilts.

He can also combo quite well. The only hard part about G&W is not getting killed

 

[Wilhelmsan]

Whoever said Captain Falcon isn't a technical character needs to think about
1) His grab/techchase game, which requires some degree of skill
2) His Nair, which demands very precise spacing, timing, DI, and fastfalling

Least technical:
Sheik - No Lcancelling, just push forward A, jump, forward A....OMG U WON NOT FAIR

Most technical:
Fox - SHL, waveshine, Lcancel->shine, and a myriad of situational combos that WILL fail if not executed flawlessly (lol are all Fox mains like this?)
Falco - SHL, waveshine, pillaring, Lcancel->shine, shine/dair combage
Ice Climbers - It's possible to be a great IC player without being too technical, but some desynchs are ridiculous.

 

[ChozenOne]

Falcon is the next "most technical" on that list good sir..

 

[linkmastersword]

to get the most out of the character, I'd say the order of technical skill needed would be the following. and the amount asteriks means that a great deal of mindgames is needed concurrently with the tech skill.
1. ICs
2. Fox
3. Falcon****
4. Falco
5. pikachu*
6. luigi****
7. pichu**
8. roy**
9. samus*
10. ganon**
11. yoshi*
12. jigglypuff*
13. ness**
14. link (really mindgames aren' t so important for him because his projectiles force certain actions out of their opponent. half an asteriks)
15. young link (mindgames aren' t so important for YL either for the same reason. half an asteriks)
16. mario*
17. doctor mario*
18. Bowser********
19. Marth*
20. Mewtwo*
21. Peach*
22. DK
23. G&W*
24. Sheik
25. Kirby
26. Zelda

halfway down the list, the tech skill became harder to judge. feel free to voice your opinion and critique, also let me know if you feel certain characters require more mindgames or less. thanks.

 

[cradmazy_SKAG]

no offense,

i dont think its possible to comment on this thread without sounding like a complete moron

 

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

um shiek because all you need to do is the basics.

Shuffle/tilts/needle wen necessary/ledgehop backair

basic advanced skills nothing more

 

[RexMaster]

You need a solid level of technical skill to play him well.

And my vote goes to Bowser, unless you're into his ledge game (who isn't?), he's not complicated at all. And his ledge game is simple as well.

I absolutely disagree about Bowser. It's true that around here, he's basically known for edge game. That's fine. But least technical?

My argument would start off with "I dare you to do an aerial- any aerial- and not get punished unless you had flawless shfflc skills with a character that jumps so. ****. slow."

Bowser has a few little tricks he can do, too, such as fortress-hogging, and air-grabbing(Klaw), which puts him just out or range of least technical, I think.

However, this all depends on whether this kind of ranking considers "winning power". If it does, and is meant to illustrate characters that absolute noobs-scrubs could pick up, have no learning curve, and consistently win with, I'd easily say sheik.

EDIT: ok, or what ChozenOne said. that's pretty much it.

 

[marthsword]

This is such an interesting thread I have walked into. I would have to say Sheik because...(other people cleared that up) and zelda. I am not a very experienced Zelda player at all, but zelda doesn't have that great of combos, and has the shortest wavedash in the game and doesn't SHFFL as much as many other characters. Again, I am a n00b zelda player.

 

[Mr.GAW]

I would have to say that Sheik is the least technical. What I mean by that is, you can win with a smaller percentage of your moveset (including advance techniques) than most other characters. I mean, look at how Drephen plays Sheik. Not to say that it doesn't require spacing skills and lots of experience, but really is possible to win most games with those three moves if you practice lots.