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King Dedede

Nietendodude

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Trust him he is in there. What did you guys think of the new moveset i made for him (Besides T-Major NTK)
 

King Axel

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Nice Newcomer screen.

DeDeDe would be an excellent choice for Brawl. He's almost built for Smash Brothers. We've seen how he fights and how he acts, so why not put him in?
 

GaryCXJk

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Yeah, figured it out too, but that's his original skin colour on the trophy.

Not to mention the logo on his cape.

EDIT: And here I have the logo on his cape:

 

Kabyk-Greenmyst

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Adding two whole characters onto the roster of already one for a franchise is a big dedication to that franchise. If Sakurai REALLY wanted DeDeDe in there, he would have put him in first. Just by MK being in it, it most assuredly lowers the chance Sakurai is going to put him in as well. Trying to balance out the Rep for the different franchises, which is very noble.
 

T-major

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He indeed got a trophy. That's why I could manage to make:

swwwweet! he's would own everyone! I agree with dude (aka nietendodude... s'o.k. if I call you "dude", right?) that his skin should be a darker blue. just a bit darker though, even though it would look darker during gameplay anyways. what with stage lighting and shadow and what-not.

very nice job on the the picture, by the way.


Yeah, figured it out too, but that's his original skin colour on the trophy.

Not to mention the logo on his cape.

EDIT: And here I have the logo on his cape:

that logo kicks major rear end!! nice find!
 

OysterMeister

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Adding two whole characters onto the roster of already one for a franchise is a big dedication to that franchise. If Sakurai REALLY wanted DeDeDe in there, he would have put him in first. Just by MK being in it, it most assuredly lowers the chance Sakurai is going to put him in as well. Trying to balance out the Rep for the different franchises, which is very noble.
...nah.
I highly doubt that the order that new characters are revealed in has any significance. There could be any number of reasons as to why Metaknight was revealed before Dedede. Maybe Metaknight was closer to completion, or at least more presentable at the time the trailer was made. Maybe Sakurai just likes Metaknight better than Dedede. Or maybe it was just so Sakurai could show off the Halberd.
And three characters to a series isn't really over-representation. Dedede, Metaknight, and Kirby could all easily represent the Kirby series without over-crowding other series. Sakurai was polite about puting other series ahead of his own in Melee, now it's his turn.

Personaly, Dedede is right up there with Ridley and Olimar for characters I'm sure are already in Brawl.
 

Jazzy Jinx

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Instead of reading 7 pages of crap I will just post all my points against those who say he cannot be a likely candidate for Brawl (yeah, what a way to enter a thread huh?).

I believe he is very likely to be included. Sakurai said himself that he didn't want to overload Melee with too many Kirby characters but for Brawl he said he doesn't care anymore and this may be the last Smash as well.

He has already included Metaknight whom is more of a mini-boss and not as story crucial as Dedede. The reason he showed Metaknight first could possibly be because Metaknight was the second most wanted character next to Wario. Or because if he revealed Dededed and not Metaknight, this would lead fans to argue if Metaknight was still going to be included whereas almost everyone can agree that Dedede would be included.

He was also the highest on Sakurai's poll which suggests that he wants to hear all of the fans ideas and possibly seek info he can use towards the creation of this character in a Smash enviroment. It also shows that he expresses great interest in this character.

Another detail is that the Kirby series was under-represented in the past two Smash games and having three Kirby characters would make up for this.

Just my two cents. I could probably think up more arguments but I am getting bored of typing...
 

tstumo

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i think he's pretty much guranteed a spot. the only thing im wondering is how the announcer guy will say his name. lol.
 

oxyborb

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Dedede should be a heavy kirby clone with more damaging suck power, and no copy ability. His B^ should be a hammer move also.
 

T-major

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Dedede should be a heavy kirby clone with more damaging suck power, and no copy ability. His B^ should be a hammer move also.
that could work... but I have an idea thats even better! :D how about they make him a compleatly original character thats not a clone of anybody?

Dedede can't be a kirby clone. simply because his A moves would be complatly different, he dosn't have the stone ability, no multiple jumps (he aculay just inflates himself and flotes up like a balloon. which is more suited for an up B), and no suplex/ninja copy ability (which is where Kirby's throws come from), and much much more (or less?). the closest he could be to Kirby is a Luigified version. and even thats far-fetched because DDD has enough moves to be 100% original.
 

Kirye

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Was playing a few Kirby games yesterday, watching DeDeDe's attacks. (Yes boredom)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=40NAfXUMJy4

His Up B could be his inflate, which is one of his many trademark skills. 00:27-00:29 in the video.

Down B could be his horizontal smash, where he jumps into the air and smashes down, then 2 stars come out of his sides. 00:38-00:40 in the video.

His neutral B could be a regular hammer smash where a star comes out, the stars do damage too. 00:17-00:18 in the video.

Side B I was thinking the hammer throw from Kirby Super star, granted it made you lose the hammer ability, but this is DeDeDe and Brawl, it could just be a boomerang. =p

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3R_usnlr_I&mode=related&search=

His grab could be him sucking in then throwing his opponent, as shown from 00:43-00:45.

Sorry for the many videos, when I found the second one that showed all the skills better than the first, I got too lazy to change em. >.<
 

virtualgamecafe

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hey check my triple d move sets on brawl chars then movesets he is on page 17 i thing i think the moves i made fit him rate it also please
 

oxyborb

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you miss understand me

his moveset should be luigish

B - Suck + Spit (cloned without copy)
B > Hammer Tackle (clone with added tackle)
B^ Hammer Jump (cloned with a thump when hits ground)
Bv - (new move) Anger
with anger, the more you hold it down the more it charges, and he moves faster and hits harder for a while.


he should inflate just like kirby, only much slower, his grab should be like that one giant bug does in the kirby games.

As for A moves they'd have to be completely different
 

T-major

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Was playing a few Kirby games yesterday, watching DeDeDe's attacks. (Yes boredom)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=40NAfXUMJy4

His Up B could be his inflate, which is one of his many trademark skills. 00:27-00:29 in the video.

Agreed! he should have a normal double jump (no multi jump), but a good recovery move.

Down B could be his horizontal smash, where he jumps into the air and smashes down, then 2 stars come out of his sides. 00:38-00:40 in the video.

thats a good one. but how about the ground slam move should be only if he uses it in the air. if used on the ground, he should wind up his hammer then smash it on the ground (like in Kirby 64), and send a big star out in front of him. if he hits someone with the acual hammer it does a lot of damage (15-20%). it would make it a little different from the already existing ground slam moves (Yoshis and Bowsers)

His neutral B could be a regular hammer smash where a star comes out, the stars do damage too. 00:17-00:18 in the video.

this should be his Down B if used on the ground (explained above). I think his neutral B should be a move thats not directly from his games, but something based on something that be would be able to do in the first place. A blow move. it would be the reverse of the suck move he has (which would be used for grabs), and would blow things away, insted of sucking them in. it would be good for making distance between you and your opponent, and could set people up for a Hammer throw move (among others).

Side B I was thinking the hammer throw from Kirby Super star, granted it made you lose the hammer ability, but this is DeDeDe and Brawl, it could just be a boomerang. =p

indeed! someone mentioned this a few pages ago, and I still think it's a perfect move to give him.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3R_usnlr_I&mode=related&search=

His grab could be him sucking in then throwing his opponent, as shown from 00:43-00:45.

thats what I was thinking! he needs to have this move, but making it a regular B would be too much like Kirby. a grab would be true to the character, and be useful because it would be extended. not only in lenght, but in Time as well. they would need to even it out by making his grabs weak though.

Sorry for the many videos, when I found the second one that showed all the skills better than the first, I got too lazy to change em. >.<
you miss understand me

his moveset should be luigish

B - Suck + Spit (cloned without copy)
B > Hammer Tackle (clone with added tackle)
B^ Hammer Jump (cloned with a thump when hits ground)
Bv - (new move) Anger
with anger, the more you hold it down the more it charges, and he moves faster and hits harder for a while.


he should inflate just like kirby, only much slower, his grab should be like that one giant bug does in the kirby games.

As for A moves they'd have to be completely different
no, I dont misunderstand you. I just disagree with you. DeDeDe has way too many move of his own to be a clone/ Luigification of anybody. also, if his grabs were the ones the giant bug in the kirby games had, they would be the same as Kirby's. because Kirby's grab moves come from the copy powers of that bug. (except up throw, which is from the Ninja ability)
 

Kirye

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@T-Major: I'm glad you agreed on most of my points though. ^^

Trying to think of a Neutral B that'd fit him, but I think i'll just let Nintendo handle that one. XD
 

T-major

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@T-Major: I'm glad you agreed on most of my points though. ^^

Trying to think of a Neutral B that'd fit him, but I think i'll just let Nintendo handle that one. XD
yeah. I mean, Sakurai made the Kirby characters, so if anyone knows what moves to give DeDeDe it's him.

I think the blow move I sugested would fit him though. DeDeDe can inhale, so he should have the ability to exhale aswell, don't ya think? they would need to make it like Bowsers fire and make it get weaker over time, but it would be very useful for dealing with head strong opponents (maybe even projectiles?).
 

Promethus

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Well seeing as Dedede's a Penguin why not give him Ice breath?
Then it could be like Bowser's Fire only Ice version.
 

T-major

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Well seeing as Dedede's a Penguin why not give him Ice breath?
Then it could be like Bowser's Fire only Ice version.
see, the problem with that is; a) it wouldn't fit the character. DeDeDe may be a penguin, but he has never used ice, or been assiociated with ice in any way in the Kirby games. b) as you said, it would be similar to Bowser's fire breath, only with ice. which isn't very original c) DeDeDe uses a hammer, so giving him ice could end up making him too similar to the Ice Climbers.
 

T-major

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I'm wondering why I didn't make a comment earlier on this thread. Oh well, I want King DDD to be in the Smash Roster.
personaly. I think he's already in. I think they already started programing him into a brawl character, but just havn't revealed him yet (same with Diddy). for whatever reason (my guess is to show off the Halberd stage) they revealed Metaknight first.

even if the didn't already start on DeDeDe yet, I can say witthout a dought in my mind that he will be in the finised game.
 

T-major

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ZOMG! Double post FTL!!! D:

I think this deserves a bump. pretty much every body agrees that DeDeDe should be in Brawl. BUT!... there are still things to discuss. such as... Victory poses! like, some Waddle Dee's try and lift DeDeDe up and carry him, but get squached by his weight.
 

Stryks

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^^ ROLF haha nice...

I like that, I was thinking maybe he would try to catch his breath (tired after the match), nad would look all tired like... then notices camera is looking at him, then he stands makin a Im-the-man! like pose... lol dont know maybe he could just swing his hammer and then gives a thumbs up and says: Im da Man!!... or somehintg XD...
 

T-major

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^^ ROLF haha nice...

I like that, I was thinking maybe he would try to catch his breath (tired after the match), nad would look all tired like... then notices camera is looking at him, then he stands makin a Im-the-man! like pose... lol dont know maybe he could just swing his hammer and then gives a thumbs up and says: Im da Man!!... or somehintg XD...
that seems fitting of him.... m'yes.. I can see it now! very fitting indeed! I thought up another one. how about he runs in from the side of the screen, then tries to skid to a stop in the middle, but ends up tripping and falling over onto his belly.

and as for his taunt... it's already been sugested I think, but DeDeDe turning towards the screen and doing a peace sign fits him very well..
 
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