King Dedede

[icymatt]

Well, obviously King Dedede will be more of a power-based character than Kirby. His special Hammer attack will be different from Kirby's, because he always pounds the ground with it, not swipe (he also can't do the aireal spin like Kirby does). This special would look like the IC's forward smash, but would possibly be chargeable and create a shockwave.

Dedede would probablly have the inhale tech as well, but he would shoot out opponents. Maybe he can even change his trajectory?

His DownB would likely be his body slam, which is alot like Yoshi and Bowser's DownB (as, he jumps a bit forward before slamming when he performs it on the ground, and just goes straight when in the air). It would also create a shockwave (or shoot out stars on both sides, like in the games.)

Many people want Dedede to have multiple jumps like Kirby, but I actually think it makes just as much sense to give him a recovery where he inflates himself and just starts floating around, making him somewhat invincible in the air.

He's also got to have his diving attack, which would certainly be his dashing A.

Otherwise, his moves would combine aspects of these attacks(the hammer, the inflation) with the fact that he actually has some bulk to him. He'd basically be a Kirby/IC/DK/Bowser almagamation.

 

[Bowserlick]

The diving attack seems to really be the only original one.

Up B I could almost see as his final cutter witha hammer that shoots out a star
Or his down B could be the non-jumping version.

B would be like the suck attack Kirby has, without the benefit of copying moves

The down B would have similar properties to Kirby's down B (although would look more like Yoshi's)

Too me this makes him just a heavier kirby with a hammer. Which might of been alright (King Dedede looks cool and has personality), if Kirby didn't already have another version of him with a sword coming in.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Too me this makes him just a heavier kirby with a hammer. Which might of been alright (King Dedede looks cool and has personality), if Kirby didn't already have another version of him with a sword coming in.

Are you insinuating that Meta-Knight's moves will be similar to Kirby's?

 

[Bowserlick]

Yea but with a sword.

 

[icymatt]

How so? KSS alone gives him a full moveset that is nothing like Kirby's.

 

[Stryks]

Woah wait u sayin Metaknight will be the same as kirby but has a aword? cmon man use ur imagination, Mk is was faster, or did u not se the trailer?

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Yea but with a sword.

umm... you HAVE played the Kirby games, right?

 

[Bowserlick]

Well my main concern is King Dedede. Metaknight uses a sword anyways. I will leave him alone, he will probably only share the jumping ability. Although one picture makes it look like Metaknight has Kirby's old dash (the pic shows him hitting Link with a steel foot).

 

[Stryks]

well anyway i put this one on the other dedede thread so ill put it here too:

u can use it freely just like hemightbegiant, but some rep wouldnt hurt anyone, mainly me XD...

 

[Nietendodude]

But that is one move. His other B moves and attacks will probably just be a mesh of IC attacks and Kirby specials. There is not much variety in Hammer smashes and hits. I kinda want him in, but he needs to have some new moves.

Well anything can happen. Peach we weren't sure what see was going to have until we saw it. I mean sure that move isn't the greatest but it's one that he can do on his own. Anyway King Dedede has hope for a more original move set; also I was talking about that one move.

Also I'll take that challenge of yours for kicks.

B SUCK- sucks in enemy chews then spits out

• The more you press B the more he does damage
• Damage 10%-20

B> Hammer throw- Dedede throws his hammer forward and hits enemy it comes back.

• High knock back
• Damage 15%-25%

B down BOUNCE- Dedede inflates and bounces across the stage

• Control direction
• Fall is quick
• Damage 13%-18%

B^ HAMMER SMASH- Jumps in the air and smashs his hammer down.

• When hits ground shoots a star hits one one target
• Med-knock back
• More damage if hit by hammer
• Damage 5%-20%

I'll take a whack at it.

SUPER SMASHS WHELLIE- Dedede calls in his Wheelie and gets on and swings his hammer around while riding the wheelie.

• Can jump but, not double or triple jump
• Damage 35%-50%

If you don't know what a Wheelie is here's a pic:

Tell me what you think!

P.S. I thought of this in 3 min.

 

[Bowserlick]

I am glad someone took the challenge. For quickly coming up with those moves, it is pretty good. The B move seems like a guarantee if he gets in. I love the bounce idea. It is an interesting take on his ability to flatten oppenents and is original.

I am not so sure on the hammer throw. It seems too powerful and it would be a big target. Plus I am not sure if that is exactly in flavor. (Does he do it in the games?) And the Up B to me is too similar to the final cutter, although I am aware he does do this in the game.

The Smash special is hilarious. He definately should have something like that if he gets in.

Overall, nice job. However, the A moves still worry me. What else could he possibly dow ith a hammer that hasn't been done in the game already.

 

[Starálfur]

I think the hammer throw quite suits Dedede. At least more so than Luigi's B> suits Luigi.

But the move set arguement aside King Dedede just plain deserves to be in Brawl.

 

[Nietendodude]

I am glad someone took the challenge. For quickly coming up with those moves, it is pretty good. The B move seems like a guarantee if he gets in. I love the bounce idea. It is an interesting take on his ability to flatten oppenents and is original.

I am not so sure on the hammer throw. It seems too powerful and it would be a big target. Plus I am not sure if that is exactly in flavor. (Does he do it in the games?) And the Up B to me is too similar to the final cutter, although I am aware he does do this in the game.

The Smash special is hilarious. He definately should have something like that if he gets in.

Overall, nice job. However, the A moves still worry me. What else could he possibly dow ith a hammer that hasn't been done in the game already.

Well I thought of his smash up it could be rising upper. his dash attack could be either spinning with his hammer or he falls and slides.

It work like this, Dedede will hold his down to charge then released, he'll bring up real fast.

Here watch this kirby hammer thingy these can be some of Dedede's A moves. Also The hammer throw for his side b can be watch at the end of the clip except it comes back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBrwb8yFsDg

 

[The Steam Punk]

I only have a single, simple request:

please, Please, PLEASE don't give good ol' triple "D" the accent from the Kirby show. That would be cruel and unjust to everybody.

 

[Yellow Mage]

His Super Smash could be "Hammer of Dreams" or maybe "Illusions." A new move for Dedede, he uses trick magic via Tanuki Leaf, and super jumps off the stage, a little to the side. As he comes down, his hammer, now GIANT sized (huh, I think I got this from Snorlax), comes raining down upon the entire stage. It would have two sweet-spots: one in the exact center of the giant hammer, and another right where Dedede himself is; where his actual hammer would really be.

I mentioned this a while back, and seems much more fitting than the Wheelie thing.

Plus, it isn't "Triple 'D'," it's "Triple 'Day'!" That's just one corruption brought by the cruel anime dub. . .I agree. NO accent from the anime should get in.

And there are plenty of Hammer moves not taken already! Dedede could have a more backhanded, reverse style of A-Moves (example, sideways Smash could have Dedede swing the Hammer in an uppercut rather than an undercut). You just have to use your imagination, which the guys at Smash are AWESOME at.

 

[Nietendodude]

I am glad someone took the challenge. For quickly coming up with those moves, it is pretty good. The B move seems like a guarantee if he gets in. I love the bounce idea. It is an interesting take on his ability to flatten oppenents and is original.

I am not so sure on the hammer throw. It seems too powerful and it would be a big target. Plus I am not sure if that is exactly in flavor. (Does he do it in the games?) And the Up B to me is too similar to the final cutter, although I am aware he does do this in the game.

The Smash special is hilarious. He definately should have something like that if he gets in.

Overall, nice job. However, the A moves still worry me. What else could he possibly dow ith a hammer that hasn't been done in the game already.

Thanks I like Dedede as the next guy. The hammer throw would be thrown side ways just check out my last post on here and at the end that's how it will be thrown. But he won't spin he will just throw it.

His Super Smash could be "Hammer of Dreams" or maybe "Illusions." A new move for Dedede, he uses trick magic via Tanuki Leaf, and super jumps off the stage, a little to the side. As he comes down, his hammer, now GIANT sized (huh, I think I got this from Snorlax), comes raining down upon the entire stage. It would have two sweet-spots: one in the exact center of the giant hammer, and another right where Dedede himself is; where his actual hammer would really be.

I mentioned this a while back, and seems much more fitting than the Wheelie thing.

Plus, it isn't "Triple 'D'," it's "Triple 'Day'!" That's just one corruption brought by the cruel anime dub. . .I agree. NO accent from the anime should get in.

And there are plenty of Hammer moves not taken already! Dedede could have a more backhanded, reverse style of A-Moves (example, sideways Smash could have Dedede swing the Hammer in an uppercut rather than an undercut). You just have to use your imagination, which the guys at Smash are AWESOME at.

Where did the hammer of dreams come from? Also I like wheelie better than yours (no offense) . It just that in Kirby Air Ride King Dedede rides a Wheelie which gives him speed along with his power. And it makes it more whacky in the game.

 

[Starálfur]

Kirby could also change his B> to one of his other abilities (Star Rod?) and King Dedede could get Kirby's hammer attacks.

 

[Nietendodude]

Well sorry to burst your bubble but, if you saw the trailer kirby uses his hammer in the gameplay. I'm not saying it could change but, probably no. Also I think Kirby's SUPER SMASH should have been the star rod instead of the Chef ability from superstar but, still good it might actually be better.

 

[Starálfur]

Ahh, forgot about that d***ed video evidence.



Oh well, fair enough.

I'd have went for crash as his super smash ability.

 

[Yellow Mage]

The hammer of dreams ironically came in a daydream: I just saw in my head Dedede jumping high off the stage, and a HUGE hammer came back down.

Could be a move that Dedede never pulled out before: NOBODY would have thought up Mario's Super Smash as it was. Probably not even Link's. Because thier unique (mostly) abilities that charactors only decide to cut lose should they gain enough power to pull the move off.

We still know next to NOTHING on these moves, so anything said about them is still HUGE speculation, no matter how wide they vary.

 

[T-major]

Here is a challenge.

Try to write a moveset on King Dedede that uses different hammer moves and different special moves then Kirby while still keeping his flavor. Of course some moves can be similar, but for the most part he should have his own style.

I know I'm probably late with this, but I have some ideas that I want to get out there.

first off. for people saying his A attacks would be like IC's. DeDeDe is a lot bigger, stronger, and most likely slower. because of this, his attacks have a lot of potential to be differant. they would most likely make up some new move just for SSBB. (look at Captain Falcon. his game is a racing game... no attacking there.) I can think up one example;

{nuetral attacks}
A; hammer jab (hits opponent with top of hammer.)
A A; double hammer jab (a second hammer jab)
A A A; hammer uppercut (swings hammer up after second jab, sending opponents upwards.)

not a IC move, which means that there is potential for different attacks.

{special attacks}
B: Exhale; if he can suck, he should be able to blow (heehee) insted of sucking in air to pull in opponents, he could blow out air, to push them away. it would cause little to no damage (it is only air) but it would create distance between characters (pushing them away close to the ground so they don't go flying), and be able to repel projectiles. it would also be like Bowsers fire breath, and would get weaker as you use it.

>B: Hammer throw; some one said it already, but I think it fits well. as said before, DeDeDe thorws his hammer, then comes back. it dosn't go an overly long distance (maybe about three or four times the width of DeDeDe) and has fair attack power (7%-15%) the knock back isn't that good. it dosn't send characters flying, but it does knock them over. (the farther the throw, the higher the damage when it hits)

^B: Balloon float; inflates and rises up slowly, then desends slowly with high controlability. (like Peach's up B move) it's a very good recovery move, letting you get back to the stage form far off. but it's very slow, making it easy to intercept. (he does not kirby float jump, he has normal jumps, that are a bit higher then Bowsers)

vB: Hammer pound; slams hammer into the ground (without jumping) and sends out a star. it can be charged by holding vB, and when fully charged would be more powerful, and send out a star. it would do more damage if it hits the opponent with the head of the hammer. (5%-8% uncharged. 15%-20% charged) and the star would have multiple, low damage hits. charging would making it travle farther, but do the same damage (2%-4% each hit)

I don't have an idea for a super smash attack....

there. thats all I can think of right now. let me know what you think.

 

[Nietendodude]

I like T-majors swap. Bounce should be B^ and that hammer pound should be B Down good thinking. This will make Dedede less of a clone. Although I'm not so sure on the A moves but good job.

Ahh, forgot about that d***ed video evidence.



Oh well, fair enough.

I'd have went for crash as his super smash ability.

Actually I thought Crash would be Better than the star rod and chef but, we will just have to see what the chef can do.

 

[T-major]

I like T-majors swap. Bounce should be B^ and that hammer pound should be B Down good thinking. This will make Dedede less of a clone. Although I'm not so sure on the A moves but good job.



Actually I thought Crash would be Better than the star rod and chef but, we will just have to see what the chef can do.

I wasn't really trying on the A moves, just trying to get the piont across that he can be differant from IC.

and I thought that the chef ability was a tad random. I didn't think of crash untill someone else said it, and now I think it would be a lot better then chef. but who knows... we don't know anything about these so called "super smash" attacks. we have no idea how they will be perfomed (although I'm think the way you do them would be differant for each character) we also dont know if they will even BE in the game, what we saw was just a video, which they could have just put the attacks in there just for show (which is unlikly, but possible) things might change, but for now, we can't say.

 

[some random freak]

king dedede is my favorite kirby character (hope he gets in)

 

[Stryks]

He'll probably will, one of the most voed characters and is one of sakurais creations, hes practically already in XD...

 

[T-major]

He'll probably will, one of the most voed characters and is one of sakurais creations, hes practically already in XD...

indeed. theres no doubt that he wouldn't at least think about putting him in. I think he's one of the most deserving Nintendo character to be added. more so then Toad even (a lot more in my opinion). people say he would be to much like IC and Kirby, but I disagree. I think he has a lot of potential for original moves, and when he gets in (which he most likely will) we will see what he can do.

 

[Nietendodude]

indeed. theres no doubt that he wouldn't at least think about putting him in. I think he's one of the most deserving Nintendo character to be added. more so then Toad even (a lot more in my opinion). people say he would be to much like IC and Kirby, but I disagree. I think he has a lot of potential for original moves, and when he gets in (which he most likely will) we will see what he can do.

Amen brother, Amen.

 

[T-major]

Sorry, but this deserves a bump. I find the reasent lack of King DeDeDe support disturbing, so lets get this thread back up and running, and make way for his majesty (the line was lame)!

and just so this post wasn't a complaet waste. I thought up a combo move DeDeDe could do, based on the move set I posted earlier;

first, DeDeDe would use Exhale to blow the opponent away. then, when they are back far enough, use Hammer throw while the opponent is still recovering from the blow back, and cause massive damage when the hammer hits. not that good of a combo, but I didn't wan't this post top be nothing but a bump.

I will think up I compleat moveset later, with stats and what-not

 

[Nietendodude]

Ok I got a few A moves for him.

A: Right swing
AA: Left swing
AAA: Rapid Hammer Combo (he closes his eyes and swings fast)

A dash- He trips (still does damage no lag)
A up- Swing hammer up
A down- Thrust hammer forward
A side- Diangnally swing

A Smash- Holds hammer like a baseball bat and swings
A Smash up- Squats then does a short hop
A Smash down- Holds then spins on the ground

Nair- bloats up
Fair- spin with hammer
Uair- swipes up
Dair- puts behind back then swipes down
Bair-swings back without moving body


B SUCK- sucks in enemy chews then spits out

• The more you press B the more he does damage
• Damage 5%-15%

B> Hammer throw- Dedede throws his hammer forward and hits enemy it comes back.

• High knock back
• Damage 10%-25%

B down HAMMER SMASH- smashs his hammer down.

• When hits ground shoots a star hits one one target
• Med-knock back
• More damage if hit by hammer
• Damage 10%-20%

B^ BOUNCE- Dedede inflates and bounces across the stage

• Control direction
• Fall is quick
• Damage 13%-18%

I'll take a whack at it.

SUPER SMASHS WHELLIE- Dedede calls in his Wheelie and gets on and swings his hammer around while riding the wheelie.
Can jump but, not double or triple jump
Damage 35%-50%

If you don't know what a Wheelie is here's a pic:

Grab

A: hits with hammer
Throw Foward: under handed swing
Throw Up: inhales and spits upward
Throw Backward: Toss backward
Throw down: body slam

Taunt: Takes an apple and eats it or turns toward the screen and holds a out peace sign.

Tell me what you think.

 

[T-major]

pretty good, but I think the A,A,A attack should be a hammer jab, using the side of the hammer. a rapid combo dosn't seem to really fit with him. seeing as is isn't a very fast character. but over all very good. a few things could be worked on though.

however, I do still disagree with the the "suck" move. I think the "exhale" move would fit him more. a sucking part could be put into the move. like right when he starts the move, he does a quick inhale, to gather air to blow out. if someone is close enough they would get sucked in, and spit out as a star, doing small damage to the person sucked in, and who ever the star hits. if any one isn't close by, you blow out air pushing things back.

and the bounce move. the way you said it would be how it could work if used on the ground. if used in the air, it would make you flote up slowly, and very far up. then you would come back down slowly, and be able to control it very well. then you would land on the ground, and get your footing, and be able to move agian. I also think it should be called "Inflate", seeing as if he used it in the air, he wouldn't be bouncing.

 

[Wendy Wu]

i think that will be a stupid idea

 

[T-major]

i think that will be a stupid idea

what will be a stupid idea? the idea of having DeDeDe in Brawl? or one of the moves we said?

 

[Hydde]

Taking in consideration that Kirby is one of the main franchises and legendary ones of nintendo.... i have no doubts that King dDdede will be in Brawl.
If there is Kirby and Meta, DDD must be there.


And about his moveset and comparison with Kirby and ICs... come on.... we all can have some imagination to create moves different from those 2 charas...... and if we can do it the guys who are doing Brawl of course can and will.

 

[T-major]

Taking in consideration that Kirby is one of the main franchises and legendary ones of nintendo.... i have no doubts that King dDdede will be in Brawl.
If there is Kirby and Meta, DDD must be there.


And about his moveset and comparison with Kirby and ICs... come on.... we all can have some imagination to create moves different from those 2 charas...... and if we can do it the guys who are doing Brawl of course can and will.

indeed. DeDeDe absolutly needs to get in in some way. I mean... I don't even think they had a trophy for him in Melee, did they? and as for moves, I don't play as Ice Climbers hardly at all. so I'm not familar with there moves (of course, it's really only the A moves that could be similar). and even still, Sakurai is the guy who created DeDeDe, and the Kirby franchise. if anybody knows what moves to give him, it's Sakurai!

 

[Hydde]

I dont remember a dedede trophy....... but i think that the only appearance of DDD in Melee is the floaty thing which is in the back of "Dream land 64"..

i think that is Dedede XD

 

[T-major]

I dont remember a dedede trophy....... but i think that the only appearance of DDD in Melee is the floaty thing which is in the back of "Dream land 64"..

i think that is Dedede XD

hmmm... could be.. I'll have to check that out.

 

[Hydde]

hmmm... could be.. I'll have to check that out.

I just checked...

yes in fact IS King Dedede.

 

[T-major]

I just checked...

yes in fact IS King Dedede.

w00t sauce!

any ways, DeDeDe has a VERY high chance of being a playable character in Brawl. he deserves it. personaly, I think more then Metaknight, now that he's added.

 

[Stryks]

Diddy is the main bad guy in the kirby series, also hes one of sakurais on creations and one of the most voted characters to be in brawl, he practically has the spot in brawl in the bag XD...

 

[T-major]

Diddy is the main bad guy in the kirby series, also hes one of sakurais on creations and one of the most voted characters to be in brawl, he practically has the spot in brawl in the bag XD...

indeed. it would be an outrage to not include him in some way. he didn't even get a trophy in melee I don't think. I have aboslutly no dought in my mind that they will make him a character. they need him to complete the Kirby franchise.