SuperiorYoshi87
Smash Lord
Seeing more gameplay with the Kremlings shows how big they are! They're huge compared to Kirby! I guess they made them that way to make them about DKs size? They're friggin big.
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We've only seen it twice if memory serves.Why bother showing it off so much then?
I still don't understand why he'd go through the trouble of bringing back the Kritters without their badass leader.
I'm honestly past the point of believing that at this point. I'd be happy to proven wrong.We've only seen it twice if memory serves.
I'm more interested in the Chunky thing really. According to two unrelated witnesses, he does something he does in the intro to DK64, and if the rumors that Sakurai likes DK64 are true, I'd say it's looking pretty true. But then why has no one else seen him?
Pretty sure we'll at the absolute least get a new DK stage on the Wii U version. However I'll be completely unsurprised if we get Rumble falls, 75m, or a new generic jungle.I'm honestly past the point of believing that at this point. I'd be happy to proven wrong.
This just goes to show the pain of Rare's buyout still effects us to this day. I'd be shocked if we're seriously not getting any new DKC content period :/
I really want King K. Rool to be playable, But I'm starting to have doubts. I wish K. Rool was Revived for his own series...I've come to accept that our Kremling King will probably not be playable. Which is a sad thing to admit, but I think it's the safest bet right now, it's either that or be disappointed. I hope i'm wrong, but I can still hope for Ridley and Dixie.
I honestly hope K. Rool is, if not playable, a boss in Smash Run. It would do him more justice than an Assist Trophy or Stage Boss would, and it would be fun to fight against him for the first time in about a decade. He could have so many cool attacks, and imagine you fighting your way through Kremlings to find him right there ready for a fight, throwing his crown and pulling out the ol' blunderbuss... *sigh. That would be great, it'd explain the Kremlings in Smash Run at least.
Don't lose hope for SSB5 though, look at what happened to Ridley in Brawl, and guess who is one of the most likely characters for SSB4? Think of DLC! He'll make his debut another day...
As we wait for that day, let's listen to this to honor the end of our playable king...
why do the Kritters look bigger than BowserThere ya go kids.
The Kritters are a little smaller than Bowser (I'm saying this based on the Direct.)why do the Kritters look bigger than Bowser
This alone makes me worried that K. Rool is going to be a boss.
Yeah, the blue ones attack like this. Though it was known since the April Direct. They're probably making fun of Dixie.I was watching the video of Kirby in Smash Run, and I noticed that there are a lot of Kremlings there and they have another atack like a Tornado like Luigi's, and of course the head atacks like the DK64 cutscene, that's interesting, though.
I just want to say that Sami would not only be a better more versatile candidate than Andy for advance wars, she also has higher chances, and I would say Mona from Wario Ware or Captian Syrup from WarioLand(especially since Wario isn't really repping that series) are possible tooI've been plugging in the characters, and aside from veterans (pretend they don't exist), there's barely anyone left.
Here's my proof:
[collapse="Mario"]It is an essentially "complete" franchise. With our 7 current Mario characters, and with Paper Mario de facto deconfirmed (we got 2 playable freaking Mario's), no realistic candidate is left.[/collapse]
[collapse="Yoshi"]No.[/collapse]
[collapse="Wario"]Kat & Anna almost definitely isn't happening due to the Ice Climbers factor. Jimmy T. and 9-Volt are reasonably all that's left, and none of those have any realistic shot of happening with Ashley deconfirmed and Wario as a hidden character.[/collapse]
[collapse="Zelda"]There are just 2 potential playable newcomers possibilities left:
-Impa as a Sheik clone. There are rumors of this happening, but they are definitely not confirmed.
-Toon/Young Zelda almost happened in Brawl. This is quite a stretch, but it is very possible.
-Some people would say Demise has a chance, but with Falcondorf confirmed, that ain't happening except as an alt.[/collapse]
[collapse="Metroid"]Dark Samus was deconfirmed. Sylux isn't happening. That leaves just Ridley.[/collapse]
[collapse="Kirby"]The franchise felt "complete" in Brawl. That hasn't changed. Bandanna Dee has his supporters, but he feels like a late DLC addition at best right now.[/collapse]
[collapse="Star Fox"]Krystal was shown as a trophy, and thus practically deconfirmed. That leaves Wolf and no newcomer choices.[/collapse]
[collapse="Pokémon"]Zoroark, Victini, and Genesect (aka the top 3 requested potential Pokémon newcomers for Smash 4) were Pokéball'd.
The only real newcomer option left were Plusle & Minun, and with The Ice Climbers dealio, it's not happening.
As for Sceptile, that never had a shot at happening.[/collapse]
[collapse="F-Zero"]Samurai Goroh is deconfirmed. Falcondorf is confirmed. The dream is dead.[/collapse]
[collapse="MOTHER"]With Ness confirmed it is now Lucas and no newcomers as a focus.[/collapse]
[collapse="Kid Icarus"]Medusa is a trophy. This series is done with characters.[/collapse]
[collapse="Nintendo franchises already with playable characters"]Pikmin likely isn't getting a newcomer with Alph confirmed as a Olimar alt via the word leaks of the primary leaker. So that's it.
Animal Crossing had Tom Nook deconfirmed. That's over.
Xenoblades and Wii Fit obviously will not getting any more playable characters.[/collapse]
[collapse="Retro Nintendo franchises"]-Mach Rider is in a few leaks, and Sakurai mentioned he was considered to be playable in Melee as a "retro character" (where the Ice Climbers were confirmed). It makes sense as a choice. He's been thrown around as a potential "out of the box" choice since Melee came out, similar to the Villager, only without as much fanfare.
-Similar sentiments are true for the Excite Biker, but to a lesser degree. This seems like a lite version of the Mach Rider, thus I don't really see it as an option. I think we can scratch the Excite Biker off the list for that reason.
-Similar things are true for Sukapon, but making Sukapon into a functional character would be a difficult task, as Sakurai noted idea would require insanely specific ideas to make it work on the Melee Dojo. However, it is still possible.
-The only other significant retro characters left I can think of are Muddy Mole, Sheriff, Starman (fFamicom/NES Pro Wrestling), Bubbles (Clu-Clu Land), and the Urban Champion. That is real digging, and that's why I cannot see it happening.[/collapse]
[collapse="Modern Nintendo franchises"]-Obviously The Chorus Men/Kids were in the Gematsu/Sal leaks. That's almost definitely still happening.
-Isaac is the most popular choice of potential newcomers not in the Sal leaks. Well, sans Ridley, Dixie, and K. Rool. It would definitely be a great choice. However, Isaac's time has probably passed, although the fact he hasn't been deconfirmed as an AT like he was in Brawl is puzzling. If he's not in Smash 3DS in any capacity, that would likely mean good things for Isaac fans.
-Andy from Advance Wars make a lot of sense. However, that sounds like a very far fetched idea.
-Ray has a cult following and some good ideas behind them, but that's probably not happening.
-Ditto what I said about Ray for Chibi Robo.[/collapse]
[collapse="3rd Party characters"]I'm going to ignore this, but basically it's Rayman only, and that's probably as DLC. Bayonetta could happen though.[/collapse]
[collapse="Donkey Kong"]-Cranky has essentially deconfirmed when he was shown as a trophy. That leaves just 2 legitimate candidates left with Diddy and DK confirmed:
-Dixie: There are obviously rumors of Dixie, and she has been discussed and wanted for a while. She was originally designed for Brawl to team with Diddy, which didn't happen, but there's still reasons to suggest the Smash developers like the idea.
-K. Rool: Well duh. It makes too much sense, especially with the high amount of requests and the obvious potential there.[/collapse]
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So, based on my conclusions, sans the unconfirmed veterans, these are the potential newcomers barring something crazy happening...
[collapse=" Potential newcomers in Alphabetical order"]1. Andy from Advance Wars.
2. Bandanna Dee from Kirby's Dreamland.
3. Chibi-Robo from Chibi-Robo.
4. Dixie Kong from Donkey Kong Country.
5. Impa from the The Legend of Zelda (likely as a Sheik clone or semi-clone).
6. Isaac from Golden Sun.
7. King K. Rool from Donkey Kong Country.
8. Mach Rider from Mach Rider.
9. Ray from Custom Robo.
10. Ridley from Metroid.
11. Sukapon from Joy Mech Fighter.
12. Toon/Young Zelda from The Legend of Zelda.[/collapse]
That's 12 potential newcomers barring something from crazy left field. A dozen.
Face it, there's not a whole lot of newcomer candidates left right about now, unless Sakurai and co. have more Wii Fit Trainer-esk (not Greninja/Robin/Duck Hunt Dog-esk) newcomers.
That's good news for us K. Rool fans. If Ridley gets confirmed or heck, even Dixie, that's one less "super popular" character left for K. Rool to have to compare to. Ridley is the only one near equal with K. Rool in that regard, and Ridley seems like a lock. I don't see why K. Rool would be far behind.
Ridley, K. Rool, and Dixie are so much more highly requested than any character not playable in Brawl it utterly hurts my brain.
The next closest were Isaac and Bandanna Dee. Isaac's front is quiet, and Bandanna Dee is almost definitely not in.
On top of that, Impa and Toon/Young Zelda are easy clone ideas. Andy, Chibi-Robo, Ray, and Sukapon almost definitely aren't happening, and Bandanna Dee doesn't have a much better shot than that.
That's 5 characters with minimal chances, and 2 clones that were never really "competition". That leaves 5 newcomer candidates, in a somewhat clear order of likelihood.
5. Isaac
4. Mach Rider
3. Dixie or K. Rool (roughly a tie; it isn't necessarily one or another, so people, please relax on that)
1. Ridley (the over a year worth of teasing got him super over)
This bodes well for K. Rool, especially with the icon moving theories (which were true in Melee and Brawl, so why wouldn't they be true now=???).
Regardless, whether K. Rool first arrives in vanilla Smash 3DS, a DLC between the release of Smash 3DS and Smash WiiU, vanilla Smash WiiU, or post-Smash WiiU's release DLC is insignificant. He'd be great for any and all of that.
I just don't see him ever getting flat deconfirmed, unless Sakurai and co. truly hate gameplay and money.
I disagree completely on what you said about Sami having higher chances. Even if she did, 0.00000000000000000001% percent chance isn't that significant enough of a difference from 0.00000000000000000000001% chance. But hey, K. Rool, K. Rool, we all love K. Rool.I just want to say that Sami would not only be a better more versatile candidate than Andy for advance wars, she also has higher chances, and I would say Mona from Wario Ware or Captian Syrup from WarioLand(especially since Wario isn't really repping that series) are possible too
but ya K.Rool doesn't have too much competition left, I still got hope
*supporting Andy, Sami, and Max in a tank over here*I just want to say that Sami would not only be a better more versatile candidate than Andy for advance wars, she also has higher chances, and I would say Mona from Wario Ware or Captian Syrup from WarioLand(especially since Wario isn't really repping that series) are possible too
but ya K.Rool doesn't have too much competition left, I still got hope
Swap Dr. Mario with DK and your list is identical to mine. K. Rool is love, K. Rool is life.I absolutely need K Rool.
I already have Wario, Dedede, Pacman, and Dr Mario. If I have K Rool thats 1 main and 4 secondaries. Ill be set
We could blame Microsoft, of course everything stems back to the buyout, we'd probably have Banjo-Kazooie in Smash by now if it never happened... But since Nintendo still owns K. Rool and the Kremlings, they're actually more to blame. They're deliberately choosing not to use the Kremlings in main entry DK games, that's all on them.We're all pointing out Nintendo seemingly avoiding Donkey Kong related stuff (besides the main ape himself) on purpose, and constantly reference the buyout of Rare, yet I've rarely (unintentional pun I swear) seen blame towards the root cause of this whole mess.
Microsoft. It's because of them that K. Rool has ultimately had so much trouble coming back. I guarantee that if the stupid buyout never happened, our king would be in the veteran section by now, or at the very least not a character that suffers with the so-called "relevancy" issue.
I agree, Mewtwo and our King were higher on the want list than Shulk, and Shulk was the Japanese Ridley!I'm getting sick and tired of all these rpg sword fighting fanboys trashing on the big 3 saying that they won't be in the game or trolling with them being AT's and stage bosses. Now I really hope they get in, or at least 2 out of those three so I can rub it in their faces! sorry, just read some replies to my comment on facebook regarding today's POTD. But at least 19 others agreed with me.
Oh, boy, here we go again with the sword thing.There seems to be an over-saturation of sword fighters this time around, and their attitude's of the big 3 is actually starting to piss me off as well.
There seems to be an over-saturation of sword fighters this time around, and their attitude's of the big 3 is actually starting to piss me off as well.
The only sword fighters I like are Link and Roy(although he has'nt been in another ssb game since melee). If(when) the big three get revealed as playable characters, the first thing I'm going to do is play as K. Rool, Ridley, and Mewtwo and kick the **** out of all the other swordsmen we've had announced(as well as all the other unwanted characters who no one cared for until after they were revealed)Yeah, I don't hate all the sword characters, but at the same time I'm getting sick of all the blade-wielding goody two-shoes. Where's our villainous crocs and space dragons dang it?!
K. Rool is the only potential heavyweight newcomer
Don't forget Snake, he was heavy too. I completely agree, we need some heavyweights newcomers for this roster.I really don't get why we haven't seen any heavyweight newcomers. In 64 we got Donkey Kong. In Melee we got Ganondorf and Bowser. In Brawl we got Ike and Dedede. That's at least two heavy characters per game. None of our current newcomers are heavy characters. K. Rool and Ridley would be perfect for that.
If he can fly easily, he must not be that heavy.
We need them both. Things need to get krazy.