K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[Hyle "Slush" Russell]

I don't think Melee was quite his time yet. If Diddy was added in Melee, then yes, Brawl would have been the perfect time to add him.

If the Rare buyout hadn't taken place right around Melee's development, then this scenario could actually have happened.

Rare still contributed to Melee though. It was in development up until a year before the Buyout. They helped design Donkey Kong's game model and both Rare's Chris Seavor and Steve Malpass voiced the Star Fox characters. I actually think a bigger reason Diddy wasn't in Melee was because Nintendo was very respectful towards not using Diddy (even though they owned him). Rare staff has commented that Nintendo always felt Diddy was Rare's baby and that they never asked to use him (but would suggest for Rare to use him, which is how Wild Cartoon Kingdom became Diddy Kong Racing).

It wasn't until Rare was sold that Nintendo set about incorporating Diddy more, which is probably the real reason Sakurai didn't consider him until Brawl. Unfortunately, that means the DK series has been playing catch up ever since.

 

[Weavel]

Just dropping by to say I endorse the character.

 

[BKupa666]

There are currently 29 guests in this thread.

Did someone link it to 4chan or something?

 

[JaidynReiman]

Rare still contributed to Melee though. It was in development up until a year before the Buyout. They helped design Donkey Kong's game model and both Rare's Chris Seavor and Steve Malpass voiced the Star Fox characters. I actually think a bigger reason Diddy wasn't in Melee was because Nintendo was very respectful towards not using Diddy (even though they owned him). Rare staff has commented that Nintendo always felt Diddy was Rare's baby and that they never asked to use him (but would suggest for Rare to use him, which is how Wild Cartoon Kingdom became Diddy Kong Racing).

It wasn't until Rare was sold that Nintendo set about incorporating Diddy more, which is probably the real reason Sakurai didn't consider him until Brawl. Unfortunately, that means the DK series has been playing catch up ever since.

Thanks for the explanation. I figured there was a valid explanation, that's why I'm tired of people throwing out these stupid arguments. Yes, Diddy should've been in Melee, but there were good reasons not to use him until Brawl. And naturally, no other DK character is a valid option until at least Diddy makes it in. That's why now is the perfect time for both Dixie and K. Rool.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I definitely think that the DK series should get another representative, just my thoughts as to whether we will get one or not is not as concrete as I want it to be. Sure Dixie Kong would be fine and I'd try her out, but she'd never be as awesome as getting King K. Rool as our new main representative as I sure do love a good unique villain to fight as and heavy characters are just fun to play as. As for the chance of getting a trailer with both characters? Maybe, but the roster size is already in question and we've never exactly gotten a trailer that has shown off two completely original characters before, but I suppose at this point in time anything is possible!

 

[Weavel]

Rool would be a perfect new villain to add to the smash universe. Even more so then ridley!

 

[Reila]

Even more so then ridley!

No way!

 

[pupNapoleon]

What would Kirby look like with K Rool?
We have discussed it- let us again, for him and Dixie.

I think he would need more than a crown and a ponytail.
A ponytail is Zero suit samus...
A crown isnt specific enough...
I'm just saying,

we need full DK furry costumes for everyone!

 

[Reila]

What would Kirby look like with K Rool?
We have discussed it- let us again, for him and Dixie.

I think he would need more than a crown and a ponytail.
A ponytail is Zero suit samus...
A crown isnt specific enough...
I'm just saying,

we need full DK furry costumes for everyone!

He would become green with lizard-like skin. That + the crown. Damn, that would be the most hideous thing.

 

[Xzsmmc]

What would Kirby look like with K Rool?
We have discussed it- let us again, for him and Dixie.

I think he would need more than a crown and a ponytail.
A ponytail is Zero suit samus...
A crown isnt specific enough...
I'm just saying,

we need full DK furry costumes for everyone!

Crown+Bloodshot eye and minicape.

Come on, that would be hilarious.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Damn, that would be the most hideous thing.

 

[Reila]

Ok, the SECOND most hideous thing.

 

[Laniv]

Just dropping by to say I endorse the character.

Here it comes!

 

[Zem-raj]

I support King K. Rool, both he and Ridley deserve spots on the roster. The roster needs more villains.

Dixie Kong and those one-shot irrelevant hunters? No thanks.

 

[Reila]

Dixie Kong? No thanks.

u wot m8

 

[Weavel]

No way!

Yes way! He has so much more personailty then the space dragon!

 

[Zem-raj]

u wot m8

Don't get me wrong, I like Dixie Kong, but I'd rather King K. Rool.

Villains are rather low in number currently.

 

[Reila]

Yes way! He has so much more personailty then the space dragon!

Good thing personality means next to nothing for Sakurai. Otherwise Rosalina wouldn't be in Smash.

Don't get me wrong, I like Dixie Kong, but I'd rather King K. Rool.

Villains are rather low in number currently.

Ah, I see. I would take Rool before Dixie as well, mainly because the game really lacks in the villain department.

 

[Turokman5896]

What do you guys think of the pipe burst leak? It's probably bull but I'm curious what you think. It's got me all anti-hype after reading it.

 

[Xzsmmc]

What do you guys think of the pipe burst leak? It's probably bull but I'm curious what you think. It's got me all anti-hype after reading it.

Never heard of it.

Keep in mind, recent events have shown that it's not wise to put 100% trust in any leak.

 

[Reila]

What do you guys think of the pipe burst leak? It's probably bull but I'm curious what you think. It's got me all anti-hype after reading it.

Link for the said leak?

 

[Weavel]

What do you guys think of the pipe burst leak? It's probably bull but I'm curious what you think. It's got me all anti-hype after reading it.

Pipe burst leak? Can you post it?

 

[Turokman5896]

Never heard of it.

Keep in mind, recent events have shown that it's not wise to put 100% trust in any leak.

I have no trust, but it's still anti-hype for me.
It's probably total bullsh*t but here you go http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69687845

 

[JaidynReiman]

What do you guys think of the pipe burst leak? It's probably bull but I'm curious what you think. It's got me all anti-hype after reading it.

Its a huge load of crap, ignore it. After Gematsu was brutally slaughtered and burned to ashes, don't bother trusting any leaks. Yes, eventually we'll get a reliable leak, but there's so many leaks it will be impossible to tell which one is legit until the game comes out.


Pretty sure this is it:

I have no trust, but it's still anti-hype for me.
It's probably total bullsh*t but here you go http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/69687845

People just post stupid leaks and tend to love leaving out Isaac and K. Rool in the process. Ridley is 50/50 whether they add him or not, though a ton of recent "leaks" have been adding Ridley to the list.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Ridley, K.Rool, and Mewtwo will be bosses if this leak is correct

Doubtful. Even at his most incompetent, I highly doubt Sakurai would reduce the three most popular characters to punching bags. Then there's also the fact that someone like Mewtwo hardly seems like boss material, given his more humansized stature.

Honestly, this leak sounds like it's intentionally trying to rile people up.

 

[Turokman5896]

@ JaidynReiman @ Xzsmmc

Party used "voice of reason!" It succeeded! "Turokman5896's confidence rose sharply!"

 

[Reila]

I am not a fan of Mewtwo (and for what is worth, I would rather not have more Pokémon reps besides Jiggs) and I still have to call bull**** the idea of making Mewtwo, a character who was playable in an older game in the series, a freaking boss character in Smash. I can understand Ridley and King K Rool being bosses, but Mewtwo? Nah. This leak sounds like bs to me.

 

[Opossum]

Let's try not to bring up phony wish lists "leaks" here.

 

[Zem-raj]

Yes way! He has so much more personailty then the space dragon!

The whole statement of "Ridley has no personality and is just a mindless monster" is a common misconception and just ignorance. Weavel has little to no personality, and has that generic hatred towards the Galactic Federation and Samus, something which all Space Pirates (and basically every enemy) has. I doubt that Sakurai would pick any hunter over the likes of Ridley or Dark Samus, the two more iconic characters. I mean, imagine if Sakurai chose Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze's Lord Fredrik, a one-shot character, over King K. Rool or Dixie Kong... it would be illogical...

In regarding the Kirby hat, I think King K. Rool's would probably be his crown. Although that might end up being too similar to Peach's. I'm sure Sakurai would think up of something. Maybe it could be like Charizard's, but with a green scaled hat thing with a tiny crown instead. Also with leaks, always take with a pinch of salt. Chrom fans unfortunately found out the hard way...

 

[Luigi player]

Dammit, I really want a new DK game now with K. Rool as the boss. The K. Rool fights were always so amazing and K. Rool just is awesome. I really want my DKC(R)3 with K. Rool and Kritters, Klap Traps, Klumps, maybe even pirate ones from DKC2 (Krook, etc).
He needs to show up again somewhere.

I kinda lost some hope for him in Smash4, maybe if they include DLC characters... but I dunno. The roster can't be too big. It could still happen though, there must be some surprises still up Sakurais sleeves...

 

[Laniv]

I've been thinking, what would K. Rool's taunts and victory poses be like?

 

[Xzsmmc]

Dammit, I really want a new DK game now with K. Rool as the boss. The K. Rool fights were always so amazing and K. Rool just is awesome. I really want my DKC(R)3 with K. Rool and Kritters, Klap Traps, Klumps, maybe even pirate ones from DKC2 (Krook, etc).
He needs to show up again somewhere.

One of the reasons we all want him in Smash Bros. so badly is because it could revitalize interest in the character. Which in turn, could lead to an appearance in the Retro's third DK game. Smash Bros. can do that, it brought Pit back from the realms of obscurity, and even Mr. Game & Watch managed a cameo or two in some of the Mario games.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

What would Kirby look like with K Rool?
We have discussed it- let us again, for him and Dixie.

I think he would need more than a crown and a ponytail.
A ponytail is Zero suit samus...
A crown isnt specific enough...
I'm just saying,

we need full DK furry costumes for everyone!

A Pokémon style hat would be pretty damn cute cutting off at K. Rool's upper jaw. Alternatively just a crown and a cape.

 

[Weavel]

The whole statement of "Ridley has no personality and is just a mindless monster" is a common misconception and just ignorance. Weavel has little to no personality, and has that generic hatred towards the Galactic Federation and Samus, something which all Space Pirates (and basically every enemy) has. I doubt that Sakurai would pick any hunter over the likes of Ridley or Dark Samus, the two more iconic characters. I mean, imagine if Sakurai chose Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze's Lord Fredrik, a one-shot character, over King K. Rool or Dixie Kong... it would be illogical...


In regarding the Kirby hat, I think King K. Rool's would probably be his crown. Although that might end up being too similar to Peach's. I'm sure Sakurai would think up of something. Maybe it could be like Charizard's, but with a green scaled hat thing with a tiny crown instead. Also with leaks, always take with a pinch of salt. Chrom fans unfortunately found out the hard way...

Weavel and ridley are both under developed, ridley has been in tons of metroid games now and is visually appealing but was not given any more personailty besides being a bad guy, I think I also read he was racist but its been a long time.

Weavel was a elite space pirate Samus killed and was rebuilt by other space pirates in the shape of a human to possible lower suspicion of the space pirate race. He is only helping them as long as they are a convenience to him. He is also the first playable space pirate in the series.

And I never said ridley was a mindless monster, he just has visuals going for him and positions of power among the space pirates. But he doesn't talk or much else, he just shows up and you fight him.

P.s. any of the hunters would make good additions and are no way similar then some mini boss or whatever you were comparing them to. They are all bounty hunters like samus have unique alt forms and varying advantages with their own unique guns and powers.

 

[Turokman5896]

="Zem-raj, post: 17164439, member: 247422"]The whole statement of "Ridley has no personality and is just a mindless monster" is a common misconception and just ignorance. Weavel has little to no personality, and has that generic hatred towards the Galactic Federation and Samus, something which all Space Pirates (and basically every enemy) has. I doubt that Sakurai would pick any hunter over the likes of Ridley or Dark Samus, the two more iconic characters. I mean, imagine if Sakurai chose Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze's Lord Fredrik, a one-shot character, over King K. Rool or Dixie Kong... it would be illogical...

In regarding the Kirby hat, I think King K. Rool's would probably be his crown. Although that might end up being too similar to Peach's. I'm sure Sakurai would think up of something. Maybe it could be like Charizard's, but with a green scaled hat thing with a tiny crown instead. Also with leaks, always take with a pinch of salt. Chrom fans unfortunately found out the hard way...

Weavel and ridley are both under developed, ridley has been in tons of metroid games now and is visually appealing was not given any more personailty besides being a bad guy, I think I also read he was racist but its been a long time.

Weavel was a elite space pirate Samus killed and was rebuilt by other space pirates in the shape of a human to possible lower suspicion of the space pirate race. He is only helping them as long as they are a convenience to him. He is also the first playable space pirate in the series.

And I never said ridley was a mindless monster, he just has visuals going for him and positions of power among the space pirates.[/quote]
Love the weavel shoutout, and I also support sylux for smash. Ridley doesn't seem to have much personality yes, because it's hidden away, unlike the boisterous k rool

 

[Weavel]

Why is it every time there is a fake leak the characters are crap.

 

[Turokman5896]

Edit: wrong thread; K ROOL IS THE BEST, please be in!

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Why is it every time there is a fake leak the characters are crap.

Well, there was that one Miahstorm leak with K. Rool, Ridley, Mewtwo, Takamaru and Bandanna Dee on it.
Of course that is also fake, the combos, wavedashing, L-cancelling and Bandanna Dee supposedly getting a trailer at Comic Con killed it

 

[pupNapoleon]

I've been thinking, what would K. Rool's taunts and victory poses be like?

Maybe his costumes should just be switches of taunts? Not different alts, but he switches as taunts.
It would not affect gameplay much, except to maybe confuse opponent? which is what he is about to a certain extent, and it would allow the costumes into his moveset, which given how vital they are to K Rool, I think they should be.

Sure it would leave alt costumes as no option for character select (unless color swapped), but I'd be okay with this.

 

[FalcoPaunch!121]

Maybe his costumes should just be switches of taunts? Not different alts, but he switches as taunts.
It would not affect gameplay much, except to maybe confuse opponent? which is what he is about to a certain extent, and it would allow the costumes into his moveset, which given how vital they are to K Rool, I think they should be.

Sure it would leave alt costumes as no option for character select (unless color swapped), but I'd be okay with this.

Not entirely sure that would happen as no ones taunt beside pacman is random. it would be awesome, though, don't get me wrong!