Jump Cancelled Up Smash?

[Deleted member 189823]

What's the point of it, really? What is it supposed to do that a normal U-Smash doesn't?

 

[FredFuchs]

it's an oos option. it's faster than dropping the shield and u smashing since you can jump directly out of shield and not waste frames.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Ah...I think I'll find use of it as the Reverse JCUP, but I could simply Up-Smash OoS with Tap Jump on. But now that I de-activated it...yeah.
Thanks Fred Fuchs.

 

[pikmin.org]

For some characters, a running Up-smash causes them to slide a bit, whereas a JC Up-smash (out of a dash/run) basically lock them in place while they do the move so there's a subtle difference. And yeah, you would JC-Up-smash out of shield if you wanted to do that.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Why woud one want to lock their movement? It's much better to have a moving U-Smash than one that doesn't. Personally one of my better KO moves with Ike was dash reversal U-Smash.

 

[pikmin.org]

Most of the itme sliding is optimal, but there would be occasions where you wouldn't want to overshoot, even if they are infrequent.

 

[-LzR-]

JC Usmash ignores shieldrop, making usmash a quick option OoS. Look at characters like Fox and think why being able to Usmash OoS 6 frames faster is an advantage.

 

[Darktega]

And how do I do this as Falco?

 

[infiniteV115]

The same way you do it as every other char.

When you're on the ground, input a jump, and then input an usmash right after the jump.

 

[Sar]

If I have tapjump on do I have to input a jump and then usmash right after or will simply pressing up on the c-stick when in shield work?

 

[Bobwithlobsters]

It's required for some buffering options. I know ddd has a guaranteed jump canceled up smash out of down throw on some characters. has to be done as a buffered jump canceled up smash to work.

 

[-LzR-]

If I have tapjump on do I have to input a jump and then usmash right after or will simply pressing up on the c-stick when in shield work?

Cstick is unaffected by tapjump. You can do it by smashing up+a for a jump+usmash or you can press a jump button + cstick up. I prefer doing it with the tapjump, it also kinda makes your DI decent if something goes wrong.