JCav sucks more than Arc

[JCav]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF5nNBee87c


marth?

 

[castorpollux]

wow ***** T_T

 

[JCav]

ok so we were playing this mm today and i for the first time all day am actually winning


last stock hes got 120%

he says hes not doing anything besides a grab

the timer was off so if it was over 8, i woulda won

at like 7:30 he lands a grab and i die

 

[/~Dogma~\]

yea marth doesnt have to do **** in this matchup cept grab

you cant tech against the stg with the fthrow dair
you cant sdi bc percents r too low
you cant do ****

the bad about this is marth has a cg on wolf

1-4 fthorw and u can insert a dair anywhere in there and hes dead

the second kill was sweet btw................

 

[castorpollux]

yeah marth is pretty homo. You might be able to tech the spike though using chinese DI


also, don't waste ur 2nd jump when recovering. It's what killed u first 2 stocks

 

[JCav]

JJ we tested this, and it aint falco.

marth has a lot more horizontal range than falco per se if you see what im saying

 

[/~Dogma~\]

no u cannot tech the spike in any way at all

wolf is way to far out
waaaaaayyy to far out

 

[castorpollux]

hmm okay, i'll test this out myself to confirm

 

[/~Dogma~\]

well u can test yourself but your wasting your time

its really stupid to be honest

marth has a lot of **** like this on chars
but its the worst on woofy

 

[JCav]

JJ i added you on myspace O.o

 

[castorpollux]

!!

tested this out and yes CHINESE DI works

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=60108151

well u can test yourself but your wasting your time

its really stupid to be honest

marth has a lot of **** like this on chars
but its the worst on woofy

Guess it wasn't a waste of time. IM JJ WOLF DONT QUESTION ME!!!!

Jk =P

 

[/~Dogma~\]

well then teach jcav chineese di

 

[/~Dogma~\]

uhhhhhh

u no i said marth vs wolf right?

that vid didnt prove anything

ur joking right?

 

[castorpollux]

uhhhhhh

u no i said marth vs wolf right?

that vid didnt prove anything

ur joking right?

That video just shows u what chinese DI is

Im telling u right now, I just tested this and wolf can chinese DI far enough to tech the edge

 

[/~Dogma~\]

what do u do for that di?

sdi towards ledge?

or hold joystick and cstick towards ledge?

 

[castorpollux]

It's a lot easier to show than explain. It's a lot more effective than SK92's video SDI method

 

[/~Dogma~\]

well could u at least enlighten me?

from what ive done today u have to go a long way before u get close to the stg to tech it. its almost 2-3 times as far as the falco spike tech

ur talking about teching the slope of the stg right?

well anyways i hope u make a vid of chinese di so i can understand and use it bc if it can work that crazy *** well id love to use it.

 

[castorpollux]

well could u at least enlighten me?

from what ive done today u have to go a long way before u get close to the stg to tech it. its almost 2-3 times as far as the falco spike tech

ur talking about teching the slope of the stg right?

well anyways i hope u make a vid of chinese di so i can understand and use it bc if it can work that crazy *** well id love to use it.

you are right when you say it is 2-3 times as far as the falco spike tech, but marth's dair has a lot more hitlag on it which allows you for more chinese DI

 

[/~Dogma~\]

hmmmm how much of an angle do u di?


i think i may have seen sumtin like this

do when u di like this go horizontaly towards edge before u even go down?

but if that di is that crazy then

im sry i had to do this, i just found it and i had to share.

 

[Seagull Joe]

jew di>chinese di.







jk

 

[Ishiey]

im sry i had to do this, i just found it and i had to share.

Don't be sorry, the rest of us probably would've done the same

On topic: Yeah, wow, *****. Why didn't you just platform camp if all he was going for was a grab?

 

[castorpollux]

Don't be sorry, the rest of us probably would've done the same

On topic: Yeah, wow, *****. Why didn't you just platform camp if all he was going for was a grab?

he did platform camp, but after he lost the 1st stock he cant platform camp anymore caz then the marth will just let him run the timer down

 

[Ishiey]

he did platform camp, but after he lost the 1st stock he cant platform camp anymore caz then the marth will just let him run the timer down

I was unclear, I meant that time the marth was at 120 last stock and said he would just camp for a grab

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Platform camping doesn't work vs Marth.
This is something that is hard to get used to but you always have to SDI AWAY when you're hit offstage to prevent gimps like these. Most people naturally try to DI towards the stage but at low % it's actually a bad idea against Marth (or MK).
He can't gimp you if you do it right because you're out of range and he has to get back to the stage. Onstage you can camp Marth pretty easily.

 

[/~Dogma~\]

yea idk what happend
jcav was trying to run out the clock and i guess he got fed up with wait so he tried to be sneaky and hit me but it didnt happen

anyways well i know that marth can stay of the stage much longer then wolf, but wouldnt di away from marth to avoid getting gimped put him in a more worse situation?

it seems like a marth would be able to edgehog what ur talking about.

 

[JCav]

i am sorry i ever doubted you and your Chinese DI JJ

 

[/~Dogma~\]

i wanna c a vid
thats crazy of how much u can di

 

[Gindler]

So does marth's Throw to spike work at every percent? My friend told me it stop after really low percents.

If so then this throwing thing is really overhyped by Roith

 

[Punishment Divine]

So does marth's Throw to spike work at every percent? My friend told me it stop after really low percents.

If so then this throwing thing is really overhyped by Roith

No, its not even guaranteed from 0 iirc

 

[JCav]

a f throw-dair is guaranteed untill 11% i believe

 

[/~Dogma~\]

a marth has 4 fthrows until he can do it he cant after the 5th fthorw

and i dont think i hyped it that much did i? i wasnt even aware that i did

well sry if i did

 

[Ishiey]

Lol the fthrow thing is really old, I don't think you hyped it too much.

But thanks to the vid, I now know to conserve my dj against Marth as well >_>

 

[ArcPoint]

The thread title is impossible. It simply isn't.

 

[/~Dogma~\]

huh

thats really weird
im looking around in the marth boards and on their true combo list thread and the fthrow to dair thing wasnt there, it was for falco but not wolf. so thats why i did most of this.

and Arc
did you see the vid?
lol

 

[Anonano]

In the video, it looks like it loses true combo status after the 2nd grab. It can probably be DIed on the first throw as well, but since I haven't used Wolf much, I wouldn't know.

 

[/~Dogma~\]

no i rly screwed it up as you could see in the vid

i can garuntee u that it is up to 4 fthrows and u cant DI it bc the percents are so low there is rly nothing to DI