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I've used this team for the last 8 months.

Pink Reaper

Real Name No Gimmicks
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This is a bump of an old team, that I modified and have been using for nearly the last 8 months. It's basically a terrible team and no one who isn't me should ever attempt to use it. I don't say that to sound snobbish, I say it because it is so bad and so easily countered that if you don't know exactly what to do in any given situation you're going to lose.




Bronzong@Leftovers
Relaxed/Heatproof
252Hp/40Def/140SpAtk/76SpDef
-Earthquake
-Gyro Ball
-Grass Knot
-Explosion

No longer the absolute best lead out there, but it still gets **** done. It went from countering 90% of leads to down to about 70% of leads. It still beats any taunt lead, Lead Infernape, Lead Hippo and Lead Swampert, but struggles with Lead Metagross and Trick Jirachi. Still, Heatproof Zong STILL hasn't caught on, after well over a year of use, so it still does it's job well.



Tyranitar@Babiri Berry
Jolly/Sand Stream
252Spe/110Atk/148SpDef
-Dragon Dance
-Fire Punch
-Stone Edge
-Crunch

In a word? **** Scizor. This is literally my Scizor Counter(note that I also have a Scizor Wall) and it works like a ****ing charm. 148 SpDef so I can come in on some of Scizors biggest partners(Heatran, Latias and Zapdos) taking very little damage in the process. Lack of Leftovers recovery usually cues opponents into either Choice Band or LO Dragon Dance sets, both of which Scizor stops cold. But with Babiri Berry I take ~50% from CB Bullet Punch and OHKO with Fire Punch. This leaves me with a moderately healthy +1/+1 TTar with great coverage. Even without Max Attack this thing can easily sweep the most common pokes in OU.



Hippowdon@Leftovers
Impish/Sandstream
252Hp/58Atk/200Def
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Slack Off
-Roar

The Hungry Hungry Hippo here acts as my physical tank and phazer and man is it good at it's job. This thing takes even boosted hits well and doesn't afraid of anything. Walls Physical Lucario/DDMence/Heracross/Band Flygon and even Gyarados well. I have long since forgotten why I have those 58 Attack EV's, but I know its for something important. 2HKOing TTar maybe, idk, im too lazy to try and figure it out.




Latias@Choice Specs
Timid/Levitate
252SpAtk/252Spe/4Hp
-Draco Meteor
-Dragon Pulse
-Thunderbolt
-Surf

Specs Latias does not give a ****.



Mamoswine@Life Orb
Adamant/Snow Cloak
252Atk/252Spe/4Hp
-Ice Shard
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Superpower

Mamosine is the best pokemon ever. Tears apart just about everything whenever you want. The strongest STAB Earthquake this side of Groudon, priority Ice that basically just tells Salamence to **** off and awesome coverage provided by Stone Edge and Superpower. It basically just kills **** because it can. I usually just save it till the end when Im pretty certain everything will die anyways.



Megatgross@Life Orb
Adamant/Clear Body
252Atk/252Spe/4Hp
-Agility
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Thunderpunch

Agiligross is ****, plain and simple. After an agility I outspeed everything forever including any Neutral nature base 115 holding a choice scarf. EQ/MM/TPunch gives amazing coverage and helps with my bulky water problem. I forgo any and all survivability for max speed and max attack but for the most part it works.


To give you an idea, here is a list of the weaknesses I have:

Fire: 2
Water: 3
Ice: 2
Electric: 0
Fighting: 2
Grass: 3
Bug: 2
Flying: 0
Normal: lol@normalweakness
Dark: 1
Ghost: 1
Dragon: 1
Steel: 2
Ground: 3
Psychic: 0
Poison: 0
Rock: 0

So yeah, I have a total 6 things that I only have to a little worry about. This team is SOOOOOO good.
 
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breloom isn't immune to sand, so it doesn't fit anyway.
 

Pink Reaper

Real Name No Gimmicks
BRoomer
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Location
In the Air, Using Up b as an offensive move
Moderator? More like Metarator.

Breloom might not have been SS immune but it could easily switch into toxic spikes and provided a much needed speed attacker on my team. Give me ideas to make it better instead of hating on the gay mushroom boxer >.<
 

0RLY

A great conversation filler at bars and parties
Joined
Nov 18, 2007
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Location
Temple University, Philadelphia
Just looking at the type redundancy, you have:

3 water
3 fire
3 grass
4 ground (-1 for zong mindgame)
... and 2 fighting weaknesses

That means you are weak to the most common attack types in the game! I mean really, at least you have 3 Grass resists. Looking at your team right now, I'd say take out either Jirachi or Bronzong, just because you have enough Steel/Psychics already. Your sand streamers make your walls and Mamo♥ and Meta♥ make up your sweepers. You have 2 whopping special attacks on your team, but you said you can work around that, so I guess you're fine.

*gives my Dragonite Surf, Fire Blast, Earthquake, Sub* It already has a Yache Berry, and it can't be flinched. *Eagerly runs off into the field of battle expecting to defeat your team with one Pokemon*
Yeah, I know. Hippowdon still kills me....
 

0RLY

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Bronzong isn't that annoying. Just throw stabbed fire, electric, water, fighting and other attacks that deal neutral or better damage at it. Remember that it needs to be stabbed. You can also run calcs if you still have issues 2hkoing or 3hkoing the guy. Otherwise, just bait a switch. It's really hard to label Reaper's Bronzong as a suicide lead, anyways.
 

sonic 12111

Smash Journeyman
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I like your hippowdon =). But cant you change iron head to maybe psycic on your jirachi? you team might need the protection from fighting types.
 

c3gill

Smash Ace
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only big issue is type redundancy. I actually have a somewhat similar SS team, any yours seems to have the same big issue as mine- Infernape could rip this team apart, Lucario and Weavile to a lesser extent (hippo could take Lucario, Zong takes Weavile- but neither like a mix-nape).

All around not too shabby.
 

sonic 12111

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only big issue is type redundancy. I actually have a somewhat similar SS team, any yours seems to have the same big issue as mine- Infernape could rip this team apart, Lucario and Weavile to a lesser extent (hippo could take Lucario, Zong takes Weavile- but neither like a mix-nape).

All around not too shabby.
Not even BLASTOISE!!!!!!!!!:mad::embarrass:mad::embarrass would win. (joke)

But is a togekiss with super irritating flinches, thunderwave, flamethrower, and aura sphere be a big threat?
 

c3gill

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only big issue is type redundancy. I actually have a somewhat similar SS team, any yours seems to have the same big issue as mine- Infernape could rip this team apart, Lucario and Weavile to a lesser extent (hippo could take Lucario, Zong takes Weavile- but neither like a mix-nape).

All around not too shabby.
I cant believe i left out Heracross. bigger edit though- any fighting type. Best wall you have for them is Hippo, once hes out a fighter could easily sweep.

Not even BLASTOISE!!!!!!!!!:mad::embarrass:mad::embarrass would win. (joke)

But is a togekiss with super irritating flinches, thunderwave, flamethrower, and aura sphere be a big threat?
^ only thing is lacks is a means to deal with Hippo.
 

sonic 12111

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I cant believe i left out Heracross. bigger edit though- any fighting type. Best wall you have for them is Hippo, once hes out a fighter could easily sweep.



^ only thing is lacks is a means to deal with Hippo.
What if there was a mamoswine in the back of the togekiss ready to ice shard his way to victory?
 
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Mia_ has entered the room.
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Bronzong's attack!
Bronzong used Earthquake.
It doesn't affect Gyarados...
---
asdf- switched in Metagross (lvl 100 Metagross).
Bronzong used Grass Knot.
It's not very effective...
Metagross lost 14% of its health.
---
Metagross used Meteor Mash.
Metagross's attack missed!
Bronzong used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Metagross lost 21% of its health.
---
Metagross used Meteor Mash.
It's not very effective...
Bronzong lost 24% of its health.
Bronzong used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Metagross lost 30% of its health.
asdf-'s Metagross fainted.
Bronzong's leftovers restored its health a little!
Bronzong restored 6% of its health.
---
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Bronzong's attack!
asdf- switched in Salamence (lvl 100 Salamence ?).
Salamence's intimidate cut Bronzong's attack!
Bronzong used Grass Knot.
It's not very effective...
Salamence lost 8% of its health.
Bronzong's leftovers restored its health a little!
Bronzong restored 6% of its health.
---
Salamence used Fire Blast.
It's super effective!
Bronzong lost 39% of its health.
Salamence lost 10% of its health.
Bronzong used Gyro Ball.
Salamence lost 21% of its health.
Bronzong's leftovers restored its health a little!
Bronzong restored 6% of its health.
---
Salamence used Fire Blast.
Salamence's attack missed!
Bronzong used Explosion.
A critical hit!
Salamence lost 61% of its health.
asdf-'s Salamence fainted.
JustWatching's Bronzong fainted.
---
JustWatching switched in Latias (lvl 100 Latias ?).
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Pointed stones dug into Latias.
Latias lost 12% of its health.
Gyarados's intimidate cut Latias's attack!
asdf- switched in Jolteon (lvl 100 Jolteon ?).
Latias used Draco Meteor.
Jolteon lost 100% of its health.
asdf-'s Jolteon fainted.
Latias's special attack was harshly lowered.
---
asdf- switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
JustWatching switched in Hippowdon (lvl 100 Hippowdon ?).
Hippowdon's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
A sandstorm brewed!
Pointed stones dug into Hippowdon.
Hippowdon lost 6% of its health.
Scizor used Swords Dance.
Scizor's attack was sharply raised.
The sandstorm rages.
Hippowdon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Hippowdon restored 6% of its health.
---
Scizor used Swords Dance.
Scizor's attack was sharply raised.
Hippowdon used Roar.
asdf- switched in Rhyperior (lvl 100 Rhyperior ?).
The sandstorm rages.
---
Rhyperior used Swords Dance.
Rhyperior's attack was sharply raised.
Hippowdon used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Rhyperior lost 42% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
Rhyperior's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rhyperior restored 6% of its health.
---
Rhyperior used Earthquake.
Hippowdon lost 69% of its health.
Hippowdon used Roar.
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Hippowdon's attack!
The sandstorm rages.
Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
Hippowdon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Hippowdon restored 6% of its health.
---
Gyarados used Aqua Tail.
It's super effective!
Hippowdon lost 37% of its health.
JustWatching's Hippowdon fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
---
JustWatching switched in Metagross (lvl 100 Metagross).
Pointed stones dug into Metagross.
Metagross lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados used Dragon Dance.
Gyarados's attack was raised.
Gyarados's speed was raised.
Metagross used Agility.
Metagross's speed was sharply raised.
The sandstorm rages.
Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
---
Metagross used Thunderpunch.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Gyarados lost 100% of its health.
asdf-'s Gyarados fainted.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
---
asdf- switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Metagross used Earthquake.
Scizor lost 48% of its health.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
Scizor used U-turn.
Metagross lost 48% of its health.
asdf- switched in Rhyperior (lvl 100 Rhyperior ?).
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
Rhyperior's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rhyperior restored 6% of its health.
---
Metagross used Meteor Mash.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Rhyperior lost 70% of its health.
asdf-'s Rhyperior fainted.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
---
asdf- switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
It's not very effective...
Metagross lost 16% of its health.
JustWatching's Metagross fainted.
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
---
JustWatching switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
Pointed stones dug into Tyranitar.
Tyranitar lost 12% of its health.
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 39% of its health.
The Babiri Berry weakened Bullet Punch's power!
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
Tyranitar used Fire Punch.
It's super effective!
Scizor lost 23% of its health.
asdf-'s Scizor fainted.
JustWatching wins!
asdf- has left the room.
Mia_ has entered the room.
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Bronzong's attack!
Bronzong used Earthquake.
It doesn't affect Gyarados...
---
asdf- switched in Metagross (lvl 100 Metagross).
Bronzong used Grass Knot.
It's not very effective...
Metagross lost 14% of its health.
---
Metagross used Meteor Mash.
Metagross's attack missed!
Bronzong used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Metagross lost 21% of its health.
---
Metagross used Meteor Mash.
It's not very effective...
Bronzong lost 24% of its health.
Bronzong used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Metagross lost 30% of its health.
asdf-'s Metagross fainted.
Bronzong's leftovers restored its health a little!
Bronzong restored 6% of its health.
---
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Bronzong's attack!
asdf- switched in Salamence (lvl 100 Salamence ?).
Salamence's intimidate cut Bronzong's attack!
Bronzong used Grass Knot.
It's not very effective...
Salamence lost 8% of its health.
Bronzong's leftovers restored its health a little!
Bronzong restored 6% of its health.
---
Salamence used Fire Blast.
It's super effective!
Bronzong lost 39% of its health.
Salamence lost 10% of its health.
Bronzong used Gyro Ball.
Salamence lost 21% of its health.
Bronzong's leftovers restored its health a little!
Bronzong restored 6% of its health.
---
Salamence used Fire Blast.
Salamence's attack missed!
Bronzong used Explosion.
A critical hit!
Salamence lost 61% of its health.
asdf-'s Salamence fainted.
JustWatching's Bronzong fainted.
---
JustWatching switched in Latias (lvl 100 Latias ?).
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Pointed stones dug into Latias.
Latias lost 12% of its health.
Gyarados's intimidate cut Latias's attack!
asdf- switched in Jolteon (lvl 100 Jolteon ?).
Latias used Draco Meteor.
Jolteon lost 100% of its health.
asdf-'s Jolteon fainted.
Latias's special attack was harshly lowered.
---
asdf- switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
JustWatching switched in Hippowdon (lvl 100 Hippowdon ?).
Hippowdon's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
A sandstorm brewed!
Pointed stones dug into Hippowdon.
Hippowdon lost 6% of its health.
Scizor used Swords Dance.
Scizor's attack was sharply raised.
The sandstorm rages.
Hippowdon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Hippowdon restored 6% of its health.
---
Scizor used Swords Dance.
Scizor's attack was sharply raised.
Hippowdon used Roar.
asdf- switched in Rhyperior (lvl 100 Rhyperior ?).
The sandstorm rages.
---
Rhyperior used Swords Dance.
Rhyperior's attack was sharply raised.
Hippowdon used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Rhyperior lost 42% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
Rhyperior's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rhyperior restored 6% of its health.
---
Rhyperior used Earthquake.
Hippowdon lost 69% of its health.
Hippowdon used Roar.
asdf- switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ?).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Hippowdon's attack!
The sandstorm rages.
Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
Hippowdon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Hippowdon restored 6% of its health.
---
Gyarados used Aqua Tail.
It's super effective!
Hippowdon lost 37% of its health.
JustWatching's Hippowdon fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
---
JustWatching switched in Metagross (lvl 100 Metagross).
Pointed stones dug into Metagross.
Metagross lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados used Dragon Dance.
Gyarados's attack was raised.
Gyarados's speed was raised.
Metagross used Agility.
Metagross's speed was sharply raised.
The sandstorm rages.
Gyarados is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Gyarados lost 6% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
---
Metagross used Thunderpunch.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Gyarados lost 100% of its health.
asdf-'s Gyarados fainted.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
---
asdf- switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Metagross used Earthquake.
Scizor lost 48% of its health.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
Scizor used U-turn.
Metagross lost 48% of its health.
asdf- switched in Rhyperior (lvl 100 Rhyperior ?).
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
Rhyperior's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rhyperior restored 6% of its health.
---
Metagross used Meteor Mash.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Rhyperior lost 70% of its health.
asdf-'s Rhyperior fainted.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
---
asdf- switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
It's not very effective...
Metagross lost 16% of its health.
JustWatching's Metagross fainted.
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
---
JustWatching switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
Pointed stones dug into Tyranitar.
Tyranitar lost 12% of its health.
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 39% of its health.
The Babiri Berry weakened Bullet Punch's power!
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
Tyranitar used Fire Punch.
It's super effective!
Scizor lost 23% of its health.
asdf-'s Scizor fainted.
JustWatching wins!
asdf- has left the room.


Are you 4 critical hits good?
 

NJzFinest

Smash Hero
Joined
Nov 12, 2004
Messages
8,861
Location
NYC
Put rocks on your hippo instead of Stone Edge. It makes it much more annoying and helps with more with shuffling/scouting. The rocks damage can easily turn some 2KOs to OHKOs.
I think it's best to replace Dragon Pulse with Trick. Despite the -2 SpAtk on the only other stab move you'd have, I really don't think you'll have the chance to pull off a Dragon Pulse "sweep" (just using it more then once) with all of the steelies running around these days. Also after ****ing something up with a Trick, the ability to pick your moves freely can be ridiculously convenient lategame.
 
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