I've just noticed- wavedashing returned!

[Xigger]

Behold, as Yoshi wavedashes. No explanation or further detail needed, this is clearly wavedashing. Although I hope they get rid of the wavedancing, or at least put some lag after wavedashing into the ground.

 

[Mysteryfox1]

oh please like if smash hasn't got wavedashing it's the end of the world

 

[Shenz0r]

I see no wavedash, just an air dodge.

 

[Zantetsu]

air dodging dosent prove wavedashing. But yet we do have a slide technique shown in the trailers by metaknight and pit. And wtf is wavedancing? You mean dashdancing? They cant really get rid of that

 

[lukintosh]

Its airdodging, and seen in the Giga Bowser update.

 

[Pyroloserkid]

...
Ugh.


Where's Dylan_Tnga these days?

 

[Darkurai]

I was hoping it would be the picture from the Andross update. At least that one had some credible basis.

 

[Doggalina]

I was hoping it would be the picture from the Andross update. At least that one had some credible basis.

Or you could look at the Nintendo World trailer. It looks like Wario wavelands.

 

[Terrorcon Blot]

Whether wave dashing "returns" or not, I care little for. If it does, though, I hope they make it look better. Characters just look so darn GOOFY when they wavedash, I don't want to do it because of it.

 

[Doggalina]

To all WD haters: There's no reason that Sakurai would think that wavedashing (or any other advanced tech) ruins Smash. It adds depth in the game, and depth is what keeps us playing.

 

[Terrorcon Blot]

If that was directed at me, I never said I hated it. I said I hate the way it LOOKS. But then, I tend to like such extreme cases of animation frame reduction. It just looks weird and badly animated the way it's done currently. I think the only game that looks okay with a low frame count is Guilty Gear.

 

[Doggalina]

If that was directed at me, I never said I hated it. I said I hate the way it LOOKS. But then, I tend to like such extreme cases of animation frame reduction. It just looks weird and badly animated the way it's done currently. I think the only game that looks okay with a low frame count is Guilty Gear.

No, it wasn't directed at you. It was directed at all the people who say "wavedashing ruins smash. I play with teh honor!"

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

To all WD haters: There's no reason that Sakurai would think that wavedashing (or any other advanced tech) ruins Smash. It adds depth in the game, and depth is what keeps us playing.

I agree about wavedashing adding depth, but Sakurai is under no obligation to keep wavedashing. Technically, it was never intended to be there, so I would not be the least bit surprised if they took it out. I'll be happy if it stays, but if it goes, learn how to adapt!

Also, I have seen a number of arguments recently in the Brawl forums that explicitly state, "There is NO reason Sakurai would take that out!". People, that is not an valid argument. Sure, Captain Falcon has a 99% chance of returning, but saying that "Sakurai has NO reason to take him out" is folly, and the same applies here. Sure, debate all you want that "there is no reason to take out wave dashing", but that statement holds no water.

 

[CartooN]

I agree about wavedashing adding depth, but Sakurai is under no obligation to keep wavedashing. Technically, it was never intended to be there, so I would not be the least bit surprised if they took it out. I'll be happy if it stays, but if it goes, learn how to adapt!

I also agree, if people do express their un happiness with me using it I simpily dont and with or with out it Im realy not bothered, the game is still fun.

My theory is actully that wavedashing will be removed. I dont think it has much to do with wether it is fair or not, its more to do with it actully being part of the game, rather than having to be descovered.
What I meen by that is, it looks as if they are adding many more techs to the game (eg gliding) probibly adding to the depth of the game, but is something that everyone can easily find out about.
Just a guess though, so dont rage at meh xD

 

[Takeshi245]

That air dodge definitely doesn't confirm wavedashing. It could still be there, but we can't be too sure for now. I still think that taking out wavedashing for the sake of taking it out isn't a good idea. I say wait until we get more information.

 

[IllidR]

I don't think the original poster even knows what a wavedash is. He's saying that Yoshi is wavedashing but that's clearly an air-dodge. Maybe he doesn't know the difference?

 

[Ryudragon29]

Either Sakurai officialized wavedash or that's just something else.

 

[BokutoGuy]

to be honest i dont care, i can wavedash and wasve shine and all but its better without it, but it can be fun in a friendly match

 

[Demon Kirby]

I see no wavedash, just an air dodge.

I see cupcakes.


And I do NOT see proof of wave dashing.

 

[THEmSHAKE]

air dodging dosent prove wavedashing. But yet we do have a slide technique shown in the trailers by metaknight and pit. And wtf is wavedancing? You mean dashdancing? They cant really get rid of that

Yea about that sliding technique. What if turns out that wavedashing is gone and the reason is that Sakurai decided to have this new sliding technique built in to replace wavedashing that wasn't ment to be in melee to begin with.

 

[Knyaguy]

it looks like yoshi is jumping

 

[-Katsuta]

While I think WaveLanding is alright, Wavedashing's physics are mostly err..

Just think about it.

Take yourself.

Do a punch, but while doing it try sliding on the ground (do this on a floor, not pavement or anything) and see that the momentum your attack isn't very solid, nor is it very practical.

Especially if you are sliding backwards.

I honestly don't see this as a way to attack aggressively, but wavelanding (sliding on the ground from the momentum of dodging from the air without attack) can be used defensively.


I just don't understand how you guys can think wavedashing is any practical way of doing Smash attacks other than the invincibility frames you get from it.

I'm hoping instead of wavedashing for Brawl they institute a forced mini-lag for Wavelanding, plus making roll more practical as I don't see that move being used at tournaments at all, as Wavedashing has replaced it.

What do you guys think?

 

[Knyaguy]

While I think WaveLanding is alright, Wavedashing's physics are mostly err..

Just think about it.

Take yourself.

Do a punch, but while doing it try sliding on the ground (do this on a floor, not pavement or anything) and see that the momentum your attack isn't very solid, nor is it very practical.

Especially if you are sliding backwards.

I honestly don't see this as a way to attack aggressively, but wavelanding (sliding on the ground from the momentum of dodging from the air without attack) can be used defensively.


I just don't understand how you guys can think wavedashing is any practical way of doing Smash attacks other than the invincibility frames you get from it.

I'm hoping instead of wavedashing for Brawl they institute a forced mini-lag for Wavelanding, plus making roll more practical as I don't see that move being used at tournaments at all, as Wavedashing has replaced it.

What do you guys think?

Seems pratical enough.

 

[SmashChu]

To all WD haters: There's no reason that Sakurai would think that wavedashing (or any other advanced tech) ruins Smash. It adds depth in the game, and depth is what keeps us playing.

What's up Sakurai

But in all serious, the reason we have flame wars debates on this subject is because there is no clear, 100% truthful awnser. If there was, we wouldn't be having these arguments.

 

[shortwanabelaker]

ur lame...

 

[mario-man]

While I think WaveLanding is alright, Wavedashing's physics are mostly err..

Just think about it.

Take yourself.

Do a punch, but while doing it try sliding on the ground (do this on a floor, not pavement or anything) and see that the momentum your attack isn't very solid, nor is it very practical.

Especially if you are sliding backwards.

I honestly don't see this as a way to attack aggressively, but wavelanding (sliding on the ground from the momentum of dodging from the air without attack) can be used defensively.


I just don't understand how you guys can think wavedashing is any practical way of doing Smash attacks other than the invincibility frames you get from it.

I'm hoping instead of wavedashing for Brawl they institute a forced mini-lag for Wavelanding, plus making roll more practical as I don't see that move being used at tournaments at all, as Wavedashing has replaced it.

What do you guys think?

Dude, this IS a game. It's not real life. If you want real life, go play Halo or Call of Duty or somethin. (Not knocking those games at all.)

 

[AtticusFinch]

...
Ugh.


Where's Dylan_Tnga these days?

lol, this tread is so lame, he didn't even bother to show up XD

You sir, win ^^

 

[lcampoy8]

that is not wavedashing that is a air dodge

 

[IllidR]

While I think WaveLanding is alright, Wavedashing's physics are mostly err..

Just think about it.

Take yourself.

Do a punch, but while doing it try sliding on the ground (do this on a floor, not pavement or anything) and see that the momentum your attack isn't very solid, nor is it very practical.

Especially if you are sliding backwards.

But a double jump is practical? Since when do things have to make sense in video games.

 

[mario-man]

Previously taken care of matter.
Meaning, I already made that point, just with a different way of saying it.

 

[Witchking_of_Angmar]

Ben111 is not an idiot....usually. He knows what WD is, and I'm pretty sure this is a joke thread. If not.....w/e.

 

[Chris of STARS]

Wow...what a garbage topic...how does trash like this stay open when the mods are so lock happy? An air dodge....or at best what just APPEARS to LOOK like an air dodge is an automatic comfirmation that wavedashing is back? Yea, maybe in R-tard Land.

 

[BigRick]

I just don't understand how you guys can think wavedashing is any practical way of doing Smash attacks other than the invincibility frames you get from it.

I'm hoping instead of wavedashing for Brawl they institute a forced mini-lag for Wavelanding, plus making roll more practical as I don't see that move being used at tournaments at all, as Wavedashing has replaced it.

1) You get no invincibility frames from a wavedash

2) Rolls are used in tournaments

 

[Mari0sPooPoo]

You could've expressed that in a way that didn't make you seem like an

Wow...what a garbage topic...how does trash like this stay open when the mods are so lock happy? An air dodge....or at best what just APPEARS to LOOK like an air dodge is an automatic comfirmation that wavedashing is back? Yea, maybe in
R-tard Land.

 

[Terrabottuti]

I don't want to say the same thing as everyone else, but I'm really certain that's just a wavedodge you are looking at... while the wavedodge is an important factor to wavedashing, it doesn't completely confirm it since everyone should know that wavedashing is strictly a ground move.

I wouldn't mind seeing that technique come back anyway, only because there's probably one or two people who can't live without it.

 

[mario-man]

or THREE.....

 

[Master Peach]

Oh god Mic please hurry and come. Close this useless thread.

I just can't believe how slow someone can be. "Oh look air dodging is in, so is wavedashing."

You must not go to dojo often. Air dodging has been confirmed since forever. And just because someone is airdodging doesn't mean it confirms Wavedashing. Plus why are you making this thread if you don't really support wavedashing. It makes no sense.

Please Mic come and close this.

 

[M.K]

I see how my topics get closed within the hour, and this is still open...

Rethink some priorities...great job anyways though.

 

[Lunytunes4.4]

i dont see how this proves wavedash to be in?

but anyway i dont mind if the wavedash got out or stays in im kinda neutral to that debate, but i do agree that some ppl hate it for sometimes no reason or they claim it ruins the game which it in my mind it doesn't
i know some ppl that play just for the competitive smash.

 

[The_Smash_Champ]

Lol it would be pretty hard to take out wavedashing...and it would be a waste of time since it only makes you faster, not unbeatable. Plus as long as theres L-canceling i dont really care, and i know it will be in since it was in the first smash also.