Items or no items in Super Smash Bros 4

[Gene]

The way I could see the Blue Shell working is that it'll go after the person with the lowest ratio. This can also lead hectic moments like the lowest ratio player running after their opponent so they get blown up with him/her or grabbing an opponent. Ice Climbers would be great with this item if you know how to chain grab(good for chain grab chars in general). And Diddy if he has bananas.

 

[VictoryIsMudkipz]

No question, items are just as a staple for Smash Bros as the characters are, they represent what Nintendo has built their success with, from the starman, to mr. saturn, to the pokeball, etc....
While competitively battling items should be turned off, but when you're just bs'ing around with friends, Items On is tons of fun and fair for everyone who may not be as talented as the next, the blue shell, and the net/axe from Animal Crossing are a must for me

 

[Lucidthought]

I like items, and I'd love to see the red shell make a return

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Speaking of the blue shell, I like how it works in Super Smash Flash 2. If a player throws it, it hits the player in first for a lot of damage. If first place throws it, they simply save themselves from being hit. It doesn't hit anyone. If more than one player have the same stock as first, it's randomized.

All in all, I think that would be a good template if they decide to insert the blue shell.

 

[SuperBrawler]

I choose items!

 

[link2702]

I can't believe this is even a question...​

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just because the tournament/competitive scene plays without items on in serious matches doesn't mean we want them removed from the game itself. Items most certainly should stay in smash, however just like before we should be given the option to turn them on/off or limit which ones appear and which don't.​

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Contrary to popular belief by non-competitives, most competitive players(least everyone i've talked to) don't mind having items on to goof around with in friendly matches sometimes, we just don't want them on in serious matches for the luck factors they bring.​

 

[3Bismyname]

keep items, u can always turn them off. i honestly cant believe someone asked this question

 

[volbound1700]

Items should return but to be honest I would love to see the Capsule cut. I also want any items outside of the Bo-Bombs that explode without a character using them removed. I hate being in the middle of a fight and all of sudden there is an explosion and both of us or I get KOed by a random spawned item in the middle of our fight. It is annoying as crap and most of the time it is related to the Capsule.

 

[LosTimeTurner]

Items can be fun for some people and items can be a huge pain. But asked yourself this, do you think they should includes items or no items at Super Smash Bros 4.

you crazy bro
of course items theres an off button you know?

 

[final lap]

Are items stage-specific in SSB games? There seem like too many items and it's hard to keep track of what they all do, but if they are stage specific then it's less of a problem.

 

[Hypercat-Z]

Good point!
There should be an option for items:
[RANDOM]
[RELATED TO STAGE]
[RELATED TO CHARACTERS]
[RELATED TO STAGE AND CHARACTERS]

 

[lordvaati]

Are items stage-specific in SSB games? There seem like too many items and it's hard to keep track of what they all do, but if they are stage specific then it's less of a problem.

I think in Melee Onett had the highest chance of spawning Mr. Saturns,but outside that not that I know of.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Are items stage-specific in SSB games? There seem like too many items and it's hard to keep track of what they all do, but if they are stage specific then it's less of a problem.

I think the only stage-specific items are the Ice Climber vegetables on the Summit, as well as Eggs on Melee Yoshi's Island. Aside from that, I don't think there are any.

 

[himemiya]

Items are for **** and all stages should be tourney legit (neutrals).

 

[Robert of Normandy]

all stages should be tourney legit (neutrals).

Gonna have to disagree with you. While I enjoy more "neutral" stages and would like a greater variety of them, I think the best path for stages is to have a balance between calmer, more balanced stages and the more chaotic stages.

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

If there was an option to use preset spawn points on stages for items I totally wouldn't time them for competitive play.

 

[BlazeTron]

I like items, and I'd love to see the red shell make a return

Forgot about that 1 , However I think keeping items is obv for the best

 

[himemiya]

Gonna have to disagree with you. While I enjoy more "neutral" stages and would like a greater variety of them, I think the best path for stages is to have a balance between calmer, more balanced stages and the more chaotic stages.

And use ssf2 idea and have the ability to turn off hazards.

 

[Vkrm]

Looking at this thread, I think I can bet that things didn't go the way OP expected. He must've expected a bunch of competitive players to jump on people who like items. In my experience casual players are the ones who don't tolerate other play styles. Not the other way around.

 

[Ziodyne]

all stages should be tourney legit (neutrals).

****. that. ****.

i love me my tournament stages yo, but if i can't play on ****ing jungle japes whenever i feel like it, it's not a smash game worth playing anymore IMO

 

[Qnez]

Items are for ***s and all stages should be tourney legit (neutrals).

And people like you is why this community gets such a bad name.

 

[Mithost]

If items can be done in a way that is fair and legal (little/no randomness that polarizes results of a match), then there is no reason not to include them for tournament play.

For casual play, I would be pissed if items were removed.

 

[lordvaati]

^ while I do feel that items should at least have a subcommunity in the competitive scene, I feel the randomness excuse is just a John IMO. the reason being is that if items were not random, I feel next people would use the excuse of them spawning in certain points of stages causing item camping and blahblahblah...which in a way is kinda worse then them appearing randomly.

Also another annoying thing people do is assume when people want items on,they want ALL items on and use that as an excuse. everyone knows Containers and Bomb-Ombs are ********, just like everyone knows Mario Bros. and 75m too broken for stages. but you could just turn the broken crap off....just like we do for stages(though now we are trying to avoid using random stage select for some f***ing reason.)

....but yeah,story for another day.

 

[D-idara]

Maybe the resentment againist competitive Smash is because people whined too much about Brawl being user-friendly and now Sakurai's gonna do the same to Smash Bros. that SEGa did to Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing, they're going to nerf the game instead of making it all spectacular. For example, too many people complained about how some Final Smashes were too powerful, but that's the point of Final Smashes, so instead of making every FS suck, they should make every FS Overpowered so every character can have fun, i'm sick of this balancing crap that will cripple the game's content, story cutscenes, character selection and probably even music.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Maybe the resentment againist competitive Smash is because people whined too much about Brawl being user-friendly and now Sakurai's gonna do the same to Smash Bros. that SEGa did to Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing, they're going to nerf the game instead of making it all spectacular. For example, too many people complained about how some Final Smashes were too powerful, but that's the point of Final Smashes, so instead of making every FS suck, they should make every FS Overpowered so every character can have fun, i'm sick of this balancing crap that will cripple the game's content, story cutscenes, character selection and probably even music.

How is balancing the characters going to cripple the music?

 

[FalKoopa]

How is balancing the characters going to cripple the music?

Don't feed the trolls.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Don't feed the trolls.

Yeah, I suppose.