Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

[LasermasterA]

Inb4 Isaac and Matthew, would 100% love it.

And then I will steal it for my avatar! Mwuahahaha!

Just kidding. Isaac for all, Isaac for Smash.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Getting greedy for followers, are they?

Guess I'll give them a follow to speed it up.

I followed on my other two accounts. I just want them to speed it up and get Isaac done. Once Isaac is done I'll keep asking for Lip, but otherwise I don't care that much.

 

[Falgor]

I followed on my other two accounts. I just want them to speed it up and get Isaac done. Once Isaac is done I'll keep asking for Lip, but otherwise I don't care that much.

The evil mind that I am wants to try to make them Smashify characters without any chance to make it, to be sure that it won't hurt Isaac's chances... Is it bad?

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

And then I will steal it for my avatar! Mwuahahaha!

Just kidding. Isaac for all, Isaac for Smash.

And I'll steal your avatar! Muahahahah!

Yeah, I support you on that. Isaac for all. You get Isaac, he gets Isaac, everybody gets Isaac!

 

[True Blue Warrior]

So what's new?

 

[JaidynReiman]

So what's new?

Nothing really.

 

[Skyblade12]

It's a shame that the DLC characters don't get real Palutena's Guidances. I am just imagining there being a "we have no info on this fighter", and then Flint comes out and explains about Adepts and Psynergy.

Not to mention, Viridi would love Isaac.

 

[Cheezey Bites]

It's a shame that the DLC characters don't get real Palutena's Guidances. I am just imagining there being a "we have no info on this fighter", and then Flint comes out and explains about Adepts and Psynergy.

Not to mention, Viridi would love Isaac.

They might get some when more have been added. Getting the VAs in just for Mewtwo would cost a bit, but if you've got Mewtwo, Lucas, Wolf, Ryu, Roy and Isaac to record you'll decrease the cost of each individual character making it far more viable to do.

 

[N3ON]

Some people thought it meant that it was a two-in-one Smashified. Ala Banjo and Kazooie as one picture.

I suppose I could see that by how they've worded it.

Getting greedy for followers, are they?

Guess I'll give them a follow to speed it up.

They're a bit delusional about it too, considering they aimed for like a 1000 follower gain before June. They've only gained like 200 since that first tease...

 

[LasermasterA]

It's a shame that the DLC characters don't get real Palutena's Guidances. I am just imagining there being a "we have no info on this fighter", and then Flint comes out and explains about Adepts and Psynergy.

Not to mention, Viridi would love Isaac.

Flint's quite the talkative one so I wouldn't put it past him! So is Echo though. I always keep saying no them in the start of the GS games just to make them give huge excuses to join our party and then join in forcibly anyway!

It would be neat if they added Palutena's Guidance for them after all the DLC, when the dust has settled down. Or in the case of Isaac, Viridi's fangirling

 

[N3ON]

I think custom moves is an omission to begrudge more than Palutena codecs as far as DLC characters go.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I think custom moves is an omission to begrudge more than Palutena codecs as far as DLC characters go.

Most of them suck. Most of the custom moves are literally the same thing as the default Special Moves but with a minor twist to them- which is just boring and therefore not worth the time, effort and money spend on them.

 

[N3ON]

And Palutena's little guidances are an easter egg on one stage most people don't know about that are good for a chuckle the first time you hear them...

As long as we get Isaac I could take or leave the extra stuff tbh. It'd be nice, but it's certainly not going to make me upset that it's not there.

 

[LasermasterA]

I think custom moves is an omission to begrudge more than Palutena codecs as far as DLC characters go.

Yes but Palutena's Guidance will be easier to add, no doubt about that. As you said, it is just a nice little easter egg.

Isaac is one character who definitely shows why DLC should get customs. There is so much stuff he has, that a lot of it won't be included in his default moveset for sure.

Obviously Customs > Palutena's guidance

 

[N3ON]

You're right, they'd be easier to add, but they're an addition so minor their absence doesn't really effect me one way or another...

And personally I barely even use customs. I use Palutena's sometimes because I hate her normal moveset, but other than that... not really, but I can understand why people would be more upset at their absence. It really is delivering less than the full package for a character in Smash 4. It's like if Melee hypothetically had DLC but the characters didn't come with side specials.

Though I get why we don't have custom moves as part of DLC, and I'm fine with getting more DLC character without custom moves than fewer that have them.

 

[Deleted member]

Most of them suck. Most of the custom moves are literally the same thing as the default Special Moves but with a minor twist to them- which is just boring and therefore not worth the time, effort and money spend on them.

The problem with Special Moves is that they are an either/or situation. The alternates are generally "more powerful but shorter lasting or have a side effect" or "less powerful but more reliable".

If you were going to do them right, give them alternate moves that are actual alternates. Once again, another reason why Palutena's one of my least-favorite Smash fighters.

Now, with Isaac, I personally think that he would have benefitted from alternate moves, but at this stage, I would just like to have him, period.

In the interim, I sent another application for Isaac yesterday. Welp, that'll be it for me for a few days.

 

[N3ON]

An homage to Smashified with Isaac. Just seeing him against that background gives me the jitters.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

I can barely wait to see Isaac smashified.
They wrote this: "There are only 9 days left of May! Help us reach 3,500 followers and you'll unlock the upcoming 2 characters to be #Smashified."

I know that they are planning on releasing the new characters in June 1, however, this quote makes it sound like they will only unlock them if they reach the 3.5k followers, it's a total shame when people get hungry for follows...

 

[JaidynReiman]

I can barely wait to see Isaac smashified.
They wrote this: "There are only 9 days left of May! Help us reach 3,500 followers and you'll unlock the upcoming 2 characters to be #Smashified."

I know that they are planning on releasing the new characters in June 1, however, this quote makes it sound like they will only unlock them if they reach the 3.5k followers, it's a total shame when people get hungry for follows...

They said previously they'll release them at the start of June, but will release them early if they hit 3,500. Which will simply never happen, they have totally unrealistic expectations.

 

[El Syd]

Hello, could I be added to the support list please?

 

[Desert Croc]

The followers list is barely rising anyway so I doubt we'll get them early.

 

[Accursed]

Isaac's custom moves, imo, should be the same move but with a different element tacked on instead of venus.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Spoiler: Supporter List

Updated.

 

[FalKoopa]

An homage to Smashified with Isaac. Just seeing him against that background gives me the jitters.

I really want to say that's a good piece of artwork, but that face really needs a bit of work.

They're a bit delusional about it too, considering they aimed for like a 1000 follower gain before June. They've only gained like 200 since that first tease...

They need about 1200 followers to get there.... they are being a little ahead of themselves. We might as well wait until July at this rate.

 

[Skyblade12]

Isaac's custom moves, imo, should be the same move but with a different element tacked on instead of venus.

But that's only three elements of four covered then.

New Moveset:
B: Venus. Summons a Venus Djinni to attack the enemy before Setting itself to Isaac.
Forward B: Mars.
Down B: Mercury.
Up B: Jupiter. Summons a Jupiter Djinni to attack enemies with gales that also push Isaac upwards.

So each special Summons the basic 1 Djinni summons. But once the Summon is finished, the Djinni goes back to Set, changing Isaac's A attacks to match the new element.

A Attacks are all Psynergy based.

Venus attacks are generally well rounded, and work best on land.

Mars attacks have the best knockback and good area of effect, but aren't ideal for racking up damage.

Mercury attacks are the weakest overall, but have the potential to freeze enemies.

Jupiter attacks offer Isaac his best aerial moves.


So you Summon a Djinni, then use its elemental Psynergies as your standard A Attacks, including aerials and Smashes.

So, with Venus set, Down A is Gaia (while Down Smash is Grand Gaia). Side A is Ragnarok and Oddyssey. Up A is Growth and Mad Growth, and basic A is Move.

Down Aerial is Quake, which has the unique property of hitting anyone on the ground beneath Isaac, rather than those around him. Up Aerial is Spire, dropping rocks on those above him. Side Aerial is Bramble, which shoots out spiky vines in front of Isaac.

Although Isaac's weight and hitbox remain the same, his basic attacks change completely as you summon new Djinn to him and he changes class!

 

[Nintendokusou]

But that's only three elements of four covered then.

New Moveset:
B: Venus. Summons a Venus Djinni to attack the enemy before Setting itself to Isaac.
Forward B: Mars.
Down B: Mercury.
Up B: Jupiter. Summons a Jupiter Djinni to attack enemies with gales that also push Isaac upwards.

So each special Summons the basic 1 Djinni summons. But once the Summon is finished, the Djinni goes back to Set, changing Isaac's A attacks to match the new element.

A Attacks are all Psynergy based.

Venus attacks are generally well rounded, and work best on land.

Mars attacks have the best knockback and good area of effect, but aren't ideal for racking up damage.

Mercury attacks are the weakest overall, but have the potential to freeze enemies.

Jupiter attacks offer Isaac his best aerial moves.


So you Summon a Djinni, then use its elemental Psynergies as your standard A Attacks, including aerials and Smashes.

So, with Venus set, Down A is Gaia (while Down Smash is Grand Gaia). Side A is Ragnarok and Oddyssey. Up A is Growth and Mad Growth, and basic A is a Move.

Down Aerial is Quake, which has the unique property of hitting anyone on the ground beneath Isaac, rather than those around him. Up Aerial is Spire, dropping rocks on those above him. Side Aerial is Bramble, which shoots out spiky vines in front of Isaac.

Although Isaac's weight and hitbox remain the same, his basic attacks change completely as you summon new Djinn to him and he changes class!

While doing my article I actually contemplated doing something like this but it sounds like it would be difficult to balance and he would miss focus then, becoming a kind of jack-of-all-trades.

 

[Skyblade12]

While doing my article I actually contemplated doing something like this but it sounds like it would be difficult to balance and he would miss focus then, becoming a kind of jack-of-all-trades.

It would also make him the most complicated character in the game by far.

I don't care. It would be awesome!

 

[Nintendokusou]

It would also make him the most complicated character in the game by far.

I don't care. It would be awesome!

Yes it would!
I also though that maybe he could use the non Venus Djinn as Smashes and that would alter the tilts and aerial properties when used. But once again, too complicated...

 

[Accursed]

What I mean is each custom up B is jupiter, side B is mars, down B is water, neutral is earth.

 

[TheRealHeroOfWinds]

Isaac should be more based on Psynergy than Djinnis, but I feel like SSF2 overdosed on that. I feel like Project M will have the better Isaac in the end.

 

[Falgor]

The Smashified team confirmed that the next two characters are Nintendo ones. Seems like Isaac is very likely to be one of these two!

https://twitter.com/smashified/status/602473623731986432

 

[FalKoopa]

The Smashified team confirmed that the next two characters are Nintendo ones. Seems like Isaac is very likely to be one of these two!

https://twitter.com/smashified/status/602473623731986432

They are 300 follows away from 3000... Dangerously close?

Anyway, that's good news. My guesses would be Isaac and Dixie.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

They reduced the milestone to 3k, which is nice. I just hope they hit the 3k followers this week, so that we can see Isaac sooner.

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

They reduced the milestone to 3k, which is nice. I just hope they hit the 3k followers this week, so that we can see Isaac sooner.

That's if they make him, which they should.

 

[JaidynReiman]

They are 300 follows away from 3000... Dangerously close?

Anyway, that's good news. My guesses would be Isaac and Dixie.

They're overhyping it, obviously. They started at 2500, so if they're still 300 away, that's only 200. I assumed that "dangerously close" meant like 50, no more than 100 away, but 300? They're definitely overhyping. What's likely the case is they're trying to get as many followers as they can so they can make more ad revenue off of the Smashified they make. Which there's nothing wrong with, really, but they're pushing way too hard.

 

[9Blades]

https://twitter.com/artsyomni/status/602532024570773504 Reflective. Swords are reflective. Isaac has a sword.

 

[JaidynReiman]

https://twitter.com/artsyomni/status/602532024570773504 Reflective. Swords are reflective. Isaac has a sword.

Its possible it could be a sword, but I'd hope the sword wouldn't be too openly visible. I think its more likely its someone we don't know at all. Or maybe they made Isaac's armor shinier (its normally not).


I doubt this hint is referring to Isaac. But honestly its confusing as to WHO exactly it could refer to. We know they're both Nintendo characters, and we know Isaac is being worked on. I heard there was also files leaked that seemed to say "Ridley" on that, and there's the "Power Suit Samus" folder seen, none of which really relate to reflecting unless it means Samus's armor. It possibly is Isaac's sword, but at the same time, Isaac's sword probably wouldn't get a huge focus. Unless they want to denote him using a specific special sword from the series, in which case they probably would make it clearly visible.

 

[Desert Croc]

Its possible it could be a sword, but I'd hope the sword wouldn't be too openly visible. I think its more likely its someone we don't know at all. Or maybe they made Isaac's armor shinier (its normally not).


I doubt this hint is referring to Isaac. But honestly its confusing as to WHO exactly it could refer to. We know they're both Nintendo characters, and we know Isaac is being worked on. I heard there was also files leaked that seemed to say "Ridley" on that, and there's the "Power Suit Samus" folder seen, none of which really relate to reflecting unless it means Samus's armor. It possibly is Isaac's sword, but at the same time, Isaac's sword probably wouldn't get a huge focus. Unless they want to denote him using a specific special sword from the series, in which case they probably would make it clearly visible.

A lot of people seem to suggest that it's the ink tank from the inklings. I really don't know what this clue could mean at this point.

 

[JaidynReiman]

A lot of people seem to suggest that it's the ink tank from the inklings. I really don't know what this clue could mean at this point.

I suppose, but I dunno. The thing is, Artsy Omni outright stated that he wouldn't consider Yookah Laylee because they're already got good HD up-to-date modern artwork to use anyway (plus they're brand new).


Look who else has the same thing? I doubt Inklings for this reasoning; Inklings already have good artwork to use, and I think they'd go for other characters first.

 

[BluePikmin11]

It's probably Chibi Robo. That's the guy I usually associate with with the metallic reflective texture.