Isaac for DLC - One day. Some day. Golden Sunday.

[JaidynReiman]

The only unnannounced game I can think of that would fill in a Christmas slot is Diddy Kong Racing. The original one did the same thing, and for this one, its been rumored for a long time. Doesn't mean its real, but it very well could be. Other than that, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem or Star Fox are both viable contenders. Fire Emblem If I think will fill the slot on 3DS.


I still think we'll hear SOME info on Zelda relatively soon (within the next few months), if nothing else a trailer with a basic premise and a title. I'd be shocked if they didn't at least show Zelda behind closed doors at E3. If they literally don't show anything at all, they probably hit a snag in development and are just acting like they got new ideas for the game.

I'd be very surprised if we didn't get any new announcements, but I am expecting the show to be primarily about stuff we already know. I just have to wonder what Nintendo is planning to use as their big holiday game now that Zelda is out of the picture.

And at least we'll finally get a gosh darn Star Fox trailer.

Oh and I think they did confirm Zelda wouldn't be at E3 in any capacity. Zelda Wii U I mean.



Well Next Level Games did say they were working on a Wii U title iirc.

Personally I'd rather have something other than Punch-Out, but if that was what they were working on, I wouldn't complain.


And **** you to the other 25, amirite?

I'd love a new Custom Robo game.

Next Level is working on a Wii U title? That's probably one of the things we'll be hearing about soon. Retro and Camelot are the main ones I'm thinking of. Whatever they are planning has likely been in the talks for longer than they've been actively been working on the projects, because any company would immediately start working on a new project right away after the previous one completed. (If Camelot is doing Golden Sun they've probably had the story written for years ).

I don't really expect to see a new Punch Out right now. Maybe on 3DS or something, but not on Wii U.

 

[N3ON]

The only unnannounced game I can think of that would fill in a Christmas slot is Diddy Kong Racing. The original one did the same thing, and for this one, its been rumored for a long time. Doesn't mean its real, but it very well could be. Other than that, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem or Star Fox are both viable contenders. Fire Emblem If I think will fill the slot on 3DS.

Could be, though I don't think we'll hear about Diddy Kong Racing (which I also believe is in development) until Nintendo is totally done with MK8. And Diddy Kong is no slouch, but he's also no Mario or Link, or even DK himself, so I'm not convinced they could get away with making that their big holiday title.

Honestly Diddy Kong Racing and Star Fox are both B-tier titles, and Nintendo needs a triple-A for the holidays. Also SMTxFE would be much too niche to fill that role. My two guesses are 1) Nintendo is repositioning Mario Maker to be their holiday game (which would suck, but it's Mario) in tandem with Star Fox which will get more spotlight now, or 2) an unannounced title (either Animal Crossing or Metroid) will be their heavy hitter. I'd bank on AC before Metroid tbh.

And FE could appease the hardcore crowd for the holidays, but it's also only B-tier. They'd need Mario or Zelda or Pokemon or something as well, even if it was a spin-off or remake. Though I doubt it will be Zelda considering we already got MM this year.

I still think we'll hear SOME info on Zelda relatively soon (within the next few months), if nothing else a trailer with a basic premise and a title. I'd be shocked if they didn't at least show Zelda behind closed doors at E3. If they literally don't show anything at all, they probably hit a snag in development and are just acting like they got new ideas for the game.

I know it might be an unpopular opinion, but I really think they are going to pull a TP with it and release it for the next console's launch as well as on the Wii U. Ofc that also means I think we'll be getting the next console in 2016, because it just can't get delayed any longer than holiday 2016. Yes, that would make it Nintendo's shortest console life cycle, but it's also far and away the poorest received system commercially, and is basically a pariah to everybody but Nintendo fans.

Delaying it is one thing, but not showing it at all (which, as far as we know, is what's happening) at E3? Considering it was aimed to release this year, something big is up. The game is either much earlier in development than we thought (which is unlikely considering how long its been in development) or they're making big changes to it. Namely, adapting it for their next console.

Next Level is working on a Wii U title? That's probably one of the things we'll be hearing about soon. Retro and Camelot are the main ones I'm thinking of. Whatever they are planning has likely been in the talks for longer than they've been actively been working on the projects, because any company would immediately start working on a new project right away after the previous one completed. (If Camelot is doing Golden Sun they've probably had the story written for years ).

I don't really expect to see a new Punch Out right now. Maybe on 3DS or something, but not on Wii U.

I dunno, people seem to have a habit of overextending their expectations for these kind of things. I wouldn't be surprised if we heard about what one of those companies was up to, but if Camelot is working on GS4 I think it'd still be pretty early for them to announce it, having just finished their last game last year. Same with Retro, who waited three years before even showing TF after DKCR came out. There's been a bit more time that's passed since Next Level's last game, so that seems likelier to me, but really, with all of them, who knows.

Like I said somewhere, I'm expecting Nintendo's E3 to be pretty light this year when it comes to reveals. I certainly expect one or two, but I think most of the time they would've dedicated to Zelda will be spread between Starfox, XCX, Mario Maker, and Yoshi. Starfox and Mario Maker in particular.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Wouldn't a relatively smaller-budget title like a GS4 take less time to fully complete than one of Nintendo's bigger titles? I thought Camelot, assuming they started on GS4 last year around May, would be able to finish it by 2 years and a couple of months.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

And **** you to the other 25, amirite?

I'd love a new Custom Robo game.

Ok, Brawl 2 most requested ATs to be playable characcters brofist .

Never played Custom Robo, maybe I'll give it a try, also, nice intervention at the Robin thread.

A New Metroid game would also be cool.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Camelot showed off Dark Dawn pretty early as I recall, as well. I just feel like they'd probably show off GS so soon because they'd want people to know its actually in development. The other thing is, if it is GS4, they probably already wrote the storyline for the game a long time ago, as well as concepted ideas for it. So that part is probably well out of the way.

Wouldn't a relatively smaller-budget title like a GS4 take less time to fully complete than one of Nintendo's bigger titles? I thought Camelot, assuming they started on GS4 last year around May, would be able to finish it by 2 years and a couple of months.

I don't necessarily think it'd be THAT small of a budget. They'd probably put a bit more of a budget into this one. But regardless, it probably would be done within a couple of years. So yeah, a Summer/Fall (maybe even a Holiday title release) would fit a new GS fine.

I know it might be an unpopular opinion, but I really think they are going to pull a TP with it and release it for the next console's launch as well as on the Wii U. Ofc that also means I think we'll be getting the next console in 2016, because it just can't get delayed any longer than holiday 2016. Yes, that would make it Nintendo's shortest console life cycle, but it's also far and away the poorest received system commercially, and is basically a pariah to everybody but Nintendo fans.

Delaying it is one thing, but not showing it at all (which, as far as we know, is what's happening) at E3? Considering it was aimed to release this year, something big is up. The game is either much earlier in development than we thought (which is unlikely considering how long its been in development) or they're making big changes to it. Namely, adapting it for their next console.

Unless they're planning on shoehorning the next console's gimmick (if there is a special gimmick; the only thing I can think of is fully integrating the console and handheld platform together so the handheld can work like a Gamepad), and assuming Nintendo is going to try and use the same structure of the Wii U like they have been talking about (so that they can have games fully working between all platforms with little difficulty), I don't see why they'd need to port it to the next platform as well.

If anything I think it'd just be released on Wii U, and Wii U games will be fully supported. So at max maybe if its played on the next console it'd have better framerate and resolution (perhaps full 1080p 60fps), but that's about it.


Unless the next console has a brand new control scheme concept and Nintendo honestly has not learned from their mistakes at all and they're going to sell it on gimmicks rather than make it competitive, I don't think they'll have a reason to directly port Zelda Wii U to the next console. Again, except for giving it better framerate/resolution, which they could potentially do without having a direct port of the game (unless the next console isn't backwards compatible, which I doubt; Nintendo is very good at that).

 

[N3ON]

Wouldn't a relatively smaller-budget title like a GS4 take less time to fully complete than one of Nintendo's bigger titles? I thought Camelot, assuming they started on GS4 last year around May, would be able to finish it by 2 years and a couple of months.

It would actually need a bigger budget than their sports games considering developing an RPG is fairly intensive in comparison. It also takes longer.

I'd love to be wrong but I still wouldn't expect hearing about GS4 until 2016 tbh, assuming they started last May. And that's not even taking the fact that they may want to make it for whatever comes after the 3DS instead into consideration, which would certainly add development time, but I think would ultimately make for the better experience. Especially if the NX (or whatever the true successor will be) is a console/handheld hybrid, because then we might actually get a console GS.

Camelot showed off Dark Dawn pretty early as I recall, as well. I just feel like they'd probably show off GS so soon because they'd want people to know its actually in development. The other thing is, if it is GS4, they probably already wrote the storyline for the game a long time ago, as well as concepted ideas for it. So that part is probably well out of the way.

Well they showed it a year before it came out, but who knows how long it had already been in development? Camelot really hadn't worked on anything other than a port of their Gamecube tennis game in the few years preceding DD.

Unless they're planning on shoehorning the next console's gimmick (if there is a special gimmick; the only thing I can think of is fully integrating the console and handheld platform together so the handheld can work like a Gamepad), and assuming Nintendo is going to try and use the same structure of the Wii U like they have been talking about (so that they can have games fully working between all platforms with little difficulty), I don't see why they'd need to port it to the next platform as well.

If anything I think it'd just be released on Wii U, and Wii U games will be fully supported. So at max maybe if its played on the next console it'd have better framerate and resolution (perhaps full 1080p 60fps), but that's about it.

They didn't need to port TP to the Wii either, but it certainly helped launch the system after a relatively commercially unsuccessful one...

I think at this point Nintendo recognizes its missteps with the launch of the 3DS and the Wii U especially and will be trying to replicate what they did for the Wii's launch: have a strong system seller which entices the hardcore right out of the gate. I also think Nintendo put Zelda Wii U on their successor and it ran much better, because I do believe Nintendo has run into a few issues dealing with the intended scope and scale of this game.

Ultimately I think Nintendo has chosen to hit hard with the launch of their next console rather than provide gamers with a Zelda this year. Though it probably was going to get delayed regardless, given that all console Zelda games get delayed.

Unless the next console has a brand new control scheme concept and Nintendo honestly has not learned from their mistakes at all and they're going to sell it on gimmicks rather than make it competitive, I don't think they'll have a reason to directly port Zelda Wii U to the next console. Again, except for giving it better framerate/resolution, which they could potentially do without having a direct port of the game (unless the next console isn't backwards compatible, which I doubt; Nintendo is very good at that).

Hey, it worked for Twilight Princess, didn't it? And since the Wii U is in an even more dire situation than the Gamecube was, and they will need to not only get their new console out sooner than later but also build a dedicated install base right away, it makes sense from a business perspective. Especially since in all likelihood they're not going to have the strongest holiday season this year.

Like I said, if they were just delaying it it'd be one thing, but not even showing up at E3 definitely definitely means something is up.

 

[PF9]

Here's a thought, if they make Isaac a DLC character and they also make an Amiibo of him, I might get one and name him Chef. Anyone get the reference there?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

There were a few dummies in there, but most people seemed like they had given GS a fair shot before judging it, which is really all you can ask for.

Still made a post in there regardless.

Everyone in that thread is cool, I hang out there all the time. I posted that, more or less, to tell everyone there was GS discussion in the thread.

 

[Tarikaques]

If Issac was made right I could see him being a fan favorite and top tier character.

 

[Altais]

I personally would not mind the new Zelda being transported to the NX, especially if that means it will be better in content. Also, I remember reading in a GameSpot article that Eiji Aonuma, the director of Zelda, said the new Zelda game is pushing the Wii U to its limits.

Though I don't have high hopes, I would love to see Golden Sun 4 at E3. If nothing else, that would possibly increase Isaac's chances of making it in Smash 4 as downloadable.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Isaac is one of those characters where I feel he would become super popular once released despite having a lot of naysayers...

Like Little Mac, Robin, Ike and Shulk

 

[N3ON]

I don't doubt that. The masses tend to gravitate towards the Marth, Ike, Robin, Shulk types don't they? The "cool" kids. Isaac wouldn't have any problem fitting in with those guys. He'd also probably be a relatively flashy fighter what with all the psynergy, and very well might shout out his attacks like in Brawl, which are things I think people also have an affinity for. Look at Captain Falcon and Ness. Ness is generally popular, right? idek, but he's played a lot in my circles.

Either way, people might begrudge the abundance of sword-wielders, but generally those characters end up among the most popular. Just another reason to not take those complaints seriously I guess. x3

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

I have began to not take anything like that in the Smash fan base seriously.

 

[N3ON]

The trick is not taking the Smash fan base itself seriously.

 

[BluePikmin11]

There's very few Isaac naysayers out there.
Most just don't expect it to happen now.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

No matter how awesome a character is to each one of us, there will always be naysayers, however, as supporters, our job is to support our character, so let's see how things turn out.

Right now is a matter of time 'till we know about Isaac's faith, let's hope he moves along.

Edit: @ BluePikmin11 I've already voted on your SSF2 Poll, glad to see both King K. Rool and Zero are the two most requested characters.

 

[FalKoopa]

'Basically an Isaac Social'. So true.

Any character once included will get a dedicated fanbase. Being reasonably high-tiered will help, but not too high.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

'Basically an Isaac Social'. So true.

Any character once included will get a dedicated fanbase. Being reasonably high-tiered will help, but not too high.

High enough?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Yeah, I could use some more results from the SSF2 poll.
If you haven't voted, be sure to do so.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

I would be happy if Isaac was A/A+ in tier list and if we take his speed, power and psyenergy from his game, I guess that's possible.

Then he could chill with my boy Ness as the Psy-duo from Smash 4 (I still miss Lucas though).

Pikachu could also chill with Flint on Isaac's shoulders.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I would be happy if Isaac was A/A+ in tier list and if we take his speed, power and psyenergy from his game, I guess that's possible.

Then he could chill with my boy Ness as the Psy-duo from Smash 4 (I still miss Lucas though).

Pikachu could also chill with Flint on Isaac's shoulders.

PM 3.6 is one update closer to Isaac, who knows?

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

PM 3.6 is one update closer to Isaac, who knows?

Not sure if it has already been released in PAL, but once it is, I'll wait 'till it gets Isaac, since unfortunately I won't be getting a Wii U any time soon to play Sm4sh with my little brother.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Not sure if it has already been released in PAL, but once it is, I'll wait 'till it gets Isaac, since unfortunately I won't be getting a Wii U any time soon to play Sm4sh with my little brother.

Was delayed, but making progress iirc. I want the PAL version just to try that Ridley mod, then Isaac happened

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

Was delayed, but making progress iirc. I want the PAL version just to try that Ridley mod, then Isaac happened

I need to see if I can find a 2GB SD card

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I need to see if I can find a 2GB SD card

Good luck I say!

 

[9Blades]

Isaac DLC, Golden Sun 4 and New Punch-out.

Brawl ATs brofist.

Give Little Mac some Jupiter Djinn so he's a better air fighter.
EDIT: Super Punch Out remake when?

 

[LasermasterA]

I think at this point Nintendo recognizes its missteps with the launch of the 3DS and the Wii U especially and will be trying to replicate what they did for the Wii's launch: have a strong system seller which entices the hardcore right out of the gate. I also think Nintendo put Zelda Wii U on their successor and it ran much better, because I do believe Nintendo has run into a few issues dealing with the intended scope and scale of this game.

Ultimately I think Nintendo has chosen to hit hard with the launch of their next console rather than provide gamers with a Zelda this year. Though it probably was going to get delayed regardless, given that all console Zelda games get delayed.

It looks I am the only one who wants NX to be their next handheld instead of premature home console replacement. Although it would give GS on handheld+console if NX is a console/handheld hybrid.

Well whatever happens, the move won't affect GS much in my opinion.

Also, I don't doubt that the fact that Isaac would probably become a really popular Smash character if he enters the Smash fray. Even if he is another swordsman because he brings tons of new and awesome moves to the table.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Isaac is one of those characters where I feel he would become super popular once released despite having a lot of naysayers...

Like Little Mac, Robin, Ike and Shulk

What can I say, ya gotta respect the scarf!

 

[LasermasterA]

What can I say, ya gotta respect the scarf!

What do you guys think about his new red scarf?

If his adult form makes it in Smash as DLC, should he have his new red scarf or should he take back his yellow scarf from Matthew?

 

[FalKoopa]

What do you guys think about his new red scarf?

If his adult form makes it in Smash as DLC, should he have his new red scarf or should he take back his yellow scarf from Matthew?

Alt costume imo.

 

[N3ON]

I just question whether Camelot has the necessary resources to develop a console GS, presuming the NX is a hybrid console. Which it might not be.

And should they not, I also question whether Nintendo would allocate the resources required for GS to make the move up, especially when Golf and Tennis are safer bets and could keep Camelot occupied for another few years. :/

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Direct confimed. I hope for a hypothetical GS4 announcement in this Direct.

 

[Bassoonist]

I want to be excited for the Direct, but I can't. The last Direct was so incredibly boring and uneventful beyond the reveal of the new FE title (which is not personally interesting to me), and so full of fluff (talking about the New 3DS XL's features twice) that it's hard for me to be hyped.

I guess it's fairly certain we'll see MK8's second DLC pack and Mewtwo's release date. But if they don't have anything exciting beyond that... Like I'm not even hoping for Golden Sun 4, so my bars are set very low. lol

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, with this April Direct, I can see the May DLC for Mario Kart 8 and the Mewtwo announcement. But, as far as new projects go... I dunno.

 

[N3ON]

I want to be excited for the Direct, but I can't. The last Direct was so incredibly boring and uneventful beyond the reveal of the new FE title (which is not personally interesting to me), and so full of fluff (talking about the New 3DS XL's features twice) that it's hard for me to be hyped.

I guess it's fairly certain we'll see MK8's second DLC pack and Mewtwo's release date. But if they don't have anything exciting beyond that... Like I'm not even hoping for Golden Sun 4, so my bars are set very low. lol

I'm not expecting much out of this Direct either, I mean it is the one before E3, the big guns will presumably be saved until then.

However I do see Mewtwo (and possibly more Smash DLC) being shown off and dated, and I expect that date to be relatively soon, so I've a little hype still.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I want to be excited for the Direct, but I can't. The last Direct was so incredibly boring and uneventful beyond the reveal of the new FE title (which is not personally interesting to me), and so full of fluff (talking about the New 3DS XL's features twice) that it's hard for me to be hyped.

I guess it's fairly certain we'll see MK8's second DLC pack and Mewtwo's release date. But if they don't have anything exciting beyond that... Like I'm not even hoping for Golden Sun 4, so my bars are set very low. lol

Well at least they won't be talking about a console this time around.

They're bound to have some new things to show.

 

[JohnnySparkxs]

Inb4 they show GS4 and Isaac as DLC and call it an April's Fool Joke... Goddammit Nintendo.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I do expect at least one new announcement, otherwise its probably just more info on Yoshi, SMT X Fire Emblem (questionable), Mario Maker, and other various projects they've announce but not said much yet. We could probably see some new info on FE If as well.

 

[LasermasterA]

They'd probably just show Xenoblade X again with some more, Yoshi's Wooly World, and Mario Maker. Who knows maybe a smartphone reveal. Maybe just Mewtwo for Smash and probably no GS as well. Nothing NEW to see here, move along folks. (Being like this cause whenever we were a bit hopeful, nothing happened so maybe the reverse will come true )

 

[JaidynReiman]

They'd probably just show Xenoblade X again with some more, Yoshi's Wooly World, and Mario Maker. Who knows maybe a smartphone reveal. Maybe just Mewtwo for Smash and probably no GS as well. Nothing NEW to see here, move along folks. (Being like this cause whenever we were a bit hopeful, nothing happened so maybe the reverse will come true )

Smartphone was confirmed a no-go as I've heard.


I still expect at least one new reveal. Maybe two, if one of the reveals is one of the unannounced 3DS remakes (DK64 3D).