is this a new technique?

[Fuqua]

Look at Megaman. He jumps immediately after hitting the floor. In previous smash games you could only roll right or left after hitting the floor right? you couldn’t jump like that. Do you think this is a new technique? Or maybe a glitch due to the game being unfinished?

 

[NintendoKnight]

Well, when you perform an Ukemi (The official name for a landing tech) you typically had three options:

Tech in place.

Tech roll to the left.

Tech roll to the right.

It might be possible that you can now hold up when you tech, and it might spring you off the ground like a jump.

Or Mega Man was simply carried off the edge by momentum and simply jumped from there. It's hard to tell.

 

[KokiriKory]

It looks like he just recovers very fast. The jump appears to be to the right of the tech

 

[PlayerXIII]

Wow, never noticed that! If it means we got a new option when teching, I am all for it! Could make for some mad counter-attacks from time to time ^_^

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

This is new to me as well, though it's a bit too hard to make out what is truly happening due to the frame rate and general quality of the gif.

 

[Seraphim.]

It looks like he just teched it and jumped. The game speed is faster than Brawl so that's why it may look instant.

 

[PikaJew]

ENHANCE!!!

 

[XTheElegantShadowX]

Well, I hate to be that guy, but... there is a strong possibility that if it is something new to the game, it's Megaman exclusive, with a plausibility of it applying to a few other characters as well.

That aside, if this is a new form of Teching that all/most of the Roster can utilize, it could add to the overall depths of the game, and I'd be absolutely ecstatic to see another option added to the game. You can NEVER have too many options so long as it's well balanced and distributed, IMO.

Well, when you perform an Ukemi (The official name for a landing tech) you typically had three options:

Tech in place.

Tech roll to the left.

Tech roll to the right.

It might be possible that you can now hold up when you tech, and it might spring you off the ground like a jump.

Or Mega Man was simply carried off the edge by momentum and simply jumped from there. It's hard to tell.

You missed one: The ability to attack the opponent on Wake-Up instead of Teching.

 

[NintendoKnight]

Well, I hate to be that guy, but... there is a strong possibility that if it is something new to the game, it's Megaman exclusive, with a plausibility of it applying to a few other characters as well.

That aside, if this is a new form of Teching that all/most of the Roster can utilize, it could add to the overall depths of the game, and I'd be absolutely ecstatic to see another option added to the game. You can NEVER have too many options so long as it's well balanced and distributed, IMO.




You missed one: The ability to attack the opponent on Wake-Up instead of Teching.

The recovery attack option isn't available to you when you hit the shield button upon landing. Only movement options for techs, not attacks.

Also, how come only Mega Man would have it? I think if it's a new technique, it would be available for every character to use.

Actually, I just went and reviewed the video the gif came from.

I took a good look at it, and it appears that Mega Man hits the ground...

...without teching, then he immediately jumps out of his laying-down position.

The heck?

 

[The Real Gamer]

Good find OP.

I really hope this is a thing now since it would add even more depth to the wake up game.

But regardless the entire sequence happens so fast... Me gusta!

EDIT: What is Mario getting hit by when he runs up to Megaman? Looks like Megaman does a Fair but he doesn't even make contact with Mario.

 

[XTheElegantShadowX]

The recovery attack option isn't available to you when you hit the shield button upon landing. Only movement options for techs, not attacks.

Also, how come only Mega Man would have it? I think if it's a new technique, it would be available for every character to use.

Actually, I just went and reviewed the video the gif came from.

I took a good look at it, and it appears that Mega Man hits the ground...

...without teching, then he immediately jumps out of his laying-down position.

The heck?

I only stated that due to there already being character specific (Glide, Wall-Cling, and Crawl come to mind.), and character exclusive (Samus's Missile spam thing, for instance) Techniques in Smash, so there is the possibility that what's shown in that gif is as such. That said, I did also say that if it was the former of the two, or even all/most of the cast could use it, it would make for an interesting mechanic and could add some extra depth to a mechanic that's been around since the 64 Era.

O_O! Strange.

 

[J1NG]

This looks like an ukemi a la Viewtiful Joe. If it is, what joyous news this is indeed, as we will have better ways to react to tech chase set-ups. That is, if the ukemi is universal. This is actually something I wanted to be added to the game, along with grab techs.

 

[ryuu seika]

From what I can see, this is either an Ukemi or the ability to jump cancel a roll out of the first few frames. Either way, it's awesome!

 

[MasterOfKnees]

He doesn't grab the ledge and quickly jump after that, since you can see the gfx from him hitting the ground, and I doubt he'd slip off the edge from momentum after hitting the ground since he's only at 25%.

This is pretty interesting, and could create for more fast-paced fighting. I like the looks of this. Nice find buddy.

Btw, welcome to Smashboards!

 

[XTheElegantShadowX]

The recovery attack option isn't available to you when you hit the shield button upon landing. Only movement options for techs, not attacks.

Also, how come only Mega Man would have it? I think if it's a new technique, it would be available for every character to use.

Actually, I just went and reviewed the video the gif came from.

I took a good look at it, and it appears that Mega Man hits the ground...

...without teching, then he immediately jumps out of his laying-down position.

The heck?

My bad, I thought you were talking about the overall amount of Wake-Up options, not just the passive ones. :I

Good find OP.

I really hope this is a thing now since it would add even more depth to the wake up game.

But regardless the entire sequence happens so fast... Me gusta!

EDIT: What is Mario getting hit by when he runs up to Megaman? Looks like Megaman does a Fair but he doesn't even make contact with Mario.

I was wondering this as well. 0_0

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'm honestly surprised nobody has caught this yet we may have overlooked some brand new tech staring us right in our faces for god knows how long.

I NEED an explanation on what Mario gets hit by when he runs up to Megaman though. It's as if he gets hit by an invisible wall of fire... Or the hitbox on Megaman's Fair is really wonky.

 

[Kink-Link5]

This is nothing new.

Megaman failed to tech and slid off the edge of the stage due to low friction. When this occurs, you can double jump immediately because the game puts you in a non-hitstun state.

Notice the jump rings.

 

[The Real Gamer]

It's weird though cause Megaman still looks like he's on stage when performing the jump.

Still doesn't explain what's going on with Mario though.

 

[Deleted member]

It's hard to tell. On one hand, it looks like Mega Man did a tech and then jumped immediately afterwards… which isn't a bad idea as it does bring more depth to the game.
On the other hand, it looks like Mega Man slid off the edge and did a Midair Jump… the quality of the gif is hard to make out, but I think it's most likely the latter.
If this is a new technique, then this is a nice find! Though, we have to wait until release to know if it is or isn't (or if Sakurai says something in a Pic of the Day).

 

[Kink-Link5]

It's weird though cause Megaman still looks like he's on stage when performing the jump.

Still doesn't explain what's going on with Mario though.

If you watch the actual video and go through it slowly, you can see he gets knocked back and lands extremely close to the edge anyway. Blame the reuse of the terribly slow Brawl camera for why it's hard to see what's happening.

Start at 1:55

Spikes and Meteors have upward knockback when used against a grounded opponent. This has been the case since Smash64.

 

[Muster]

From what I can see, this is either an Ukemi or the ability to jump cancel a roll out of the first few frames. Either way, it's awesome!

In the rosalina trailer, we see marth quickly jumping out of a roll, maybe we'll be able to cancel rolls with jumps at certain points now!

Spoiler

Dodge Fair dodge fair dodge fair is new marth metagame

 

[XTheElegantShadowX]

It's weird though cause Megaman still looks like he's on stage when performing the jump.

Still doesn't explain what's going on with Mario though.

Ha! I just took a closer look at the video, and the explosion that hits Mario is due to Megaman hitting him with a Crash Bomber (I think that's the name) right before Mario hits him with his Forward-Smas, and as he jumps after being knocked down by it, whether due to some new mechanic or otherwise, the bomb detonated and explodes in Mario's face. The gif just wasn't long enough to showcase that part.

 

[Fenrir VII]

This is nothing new.

Megaman failed to tech and slid off the edge of the stage due to low friction. When this occurs, you can double jump immediately because the game puts you in a non-hitstun state.

Notice the jump rings.

^This. Somebody needs to go back and check the jump vs. double jump heights to confirm this, but this has been in like every Smash game so far...

Also, as for Mario, Doesn't he just have a crash bomb on him?

 

[The Real Gamer]

Just watched the full vid... Yeah no new tech here guys.

I'm getting a little desperate to learn something new in terms of gameplay mechanics. So far everything just looks like Brawl but sped up.

 

[Mypantisgone]

EDIT: What is Mario getting hit by when he runs up to Megaman? Looks like Megaman does a Fair but he doesn't even make contact with Mario.

Mario has one of MegaMan's bomb on him.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

The most likely is teching then pressing jump immediately unless that's not possible

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

The most likely is teching then pressing jump immediately unless that's not possible

It's not possible. The Video when they introduce Sonic shows Megaman teching Mario's back throw. Different animation. As many others stated before me, it is just an un-teched hit that had enough momentum to push him off stage so he double jumps.

I hope Sakurai uses a much faster and dynamic camera than this. Hell the camera in Subspace was better than its default multiplayer camera.

 

[Fuqua]

I agree it is most likely not a new tech, unfortunately. Kink-Link5 explained what actually happend. It still looks weird though, it happens so fast, so i dont now...

@ MasterOfKnees Thank you