Is lucina viable competitivly?

[Shaya]

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, rude or antagonising towards you (or anyone else) either. But have you even played Marth in this game? As in, have you even bothered to test to see that Lucina's shield breaker does nothing more than Marths in terms of damage on shield or are you just pulling that out of no where/wishful thinking?

I don't use the words "literally" and "objectively" loosely (in the former case, in very very obvious sarcasm if ever). If you don't understand what I mean when I use those words, you should consider looking them up.

 

[Darklink401]

Tipper B on shield can break it even if it's half-charged.

Which I've caught at least 4 people a combined total of around 8 times with. so far. From like 15 matches.

 

[MLSword]

I don't think Shaya meant the charged-B, but moreso the forward-air.

Shaya said ALWAYS safer on shield just now, however, which is not ALWAYS true.

 

[The TaBuu]

" If you don't understand what I mean when I use those words, you should consider looking them up. "
well damn talk about salt hahahaha

Lucina has the right tools to differentiate from Marth. It's just a matter of time before we find the right ones honestly. #wishfulthinking

 

[Darklink401]

Shaya said ALWAYS safer on shield just now, however, which is not ALWAYS true.

Well, anything Lucina can do to shields, Marth can do better with tipper I'd assume, so IF USED CORRECTLY (XD), I'd think Marth would be safer on shield.

 

[Shaya]

Shaya said ALWAYS safer on shield just now, however, which is not ALWAYS true.

Yes, always safer on shield is right. Doesn't mean Lucina cannot be safe on shield with her attacks.

 

[The TaBuu]

This may be a little out of the blue but wouldn't Lucina's Dancing Blade KO better than Marth's?

Edit : And this may or may not have been addressed but Lucina might possess a stronger punish game because of her sword design possessing equal damage and knock-back. Marth's sourspot apparently deals pitiful knockback (and hitstun?). And when i mean punish I mean her punishing OoS

 

[MLSword]

Well, anything Lucina can do to shields, Marth can do better with tipper I'd assume, so IF USED CORRECTLY (XD), I'd think Marth would be safer on shield.

Doing tipper neutral b with Marth is VERY hard, and I don't care how good a person is with Marth, you will not always get a tipper neutral b. Also, we are not talking about the SAFENESS on shield, and Lucina's neutral b on shield is safer then Marth's neutral b on shield.

 

[Shaya]

This may be a little out of the blue but wouldn't Lucina's Dancing Blade KO better than Marth's?

Edit : And this may or may not have been addressed but Lucina might possess a stronger punish game because of her sword design possessing equal damage and knock-back. Marth's sourspot apparently deals pitiful knockback (and hitstun?). And when i mean punish I mean her punishing OoS

I don't believe I've scored a KO with dancing blade on Lucina yet. But perhaps on the upwards.
Marth's sourspot is not pitiful... what?

Also, we are not talking about the SAFENESS on shield, and Lucina's neutral b on shield is safer then Marth's neutral b on shield.

It doesn't matter if Marth doesn't tipper with shieldbreaker.
Do you have any proof whatsoever there is actually a difference between the two?

And now we're at the stage where I regret ever posting.

 

[Robertman2]

Can we lock this thread @ Shaya ? I feel like things are going to get nasty quickly.

 

[The TaBuu]

When I say pitiful I guess it's a comparison to Lucina's hitstun and knockback.
And I'm pretty sure Marth can only match Lucina's Dancing Blade KO power if he manages to tip the last hit

edit : this probably should be locked as there is already a pre-existing thread where discussions regarding lucina vs marth is happening. i think its actually shaya's thread lol