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If you don't feel like reading this whole thing skip to "here" but it makes more sense if you read the whole thing.
If you haven't noticed yet, sometimes not doing the "Right" thing is a good thing to do against highly skilled opponents.
Not always fastfalling, recovering poorly, just plain old doing stupid things, is sometimes a good idea.
This can apply to peach in just dsmashing someone's shield 3 times in a row. Of course, one should do this when they're expecting some kind of other response after the dsmash, like a spotdodge or a roll. (Read->Drephen).
More specifically, I've been thinking recently how to apply this to Peach's shield pressure game.
The recent spamming of CCgrabs by both Marth and Sheik, have made Peach's FC->slap game very ineffective. Also there are many people who now will just wait after aerials for you to do something else on their shield and just grab you after that is over. Most characters buffer their aerial attacks now with something else (another attack or spotdodge), so merely waiting for a few frames after the initial aerial hit accounts for the large majority of mixups in the shield pressure game.
Even for the ones it doesn't, using this method combined with CCgrabs captures even more of the mixups.
Peach's solution?
Being bad at smash in the form of missing lcancels
-here-
I looked very hard for the video Ryoko had up where he demonstrated how the lag on Peach's fair makes her duck under Sheik's grab range. Undoubtedly any Peach player has had this work in his advantage a couple of times unintentionally, but perhaps it's time to make it an intentional tactic?
Keep getting shield grabbed by a sheik? Maybe it's time to stop FCing all your aerials and approach with a slightly less than FCed Fair. Peach's advantage is there is little difference in the way a FC'ed aerial and an nonFC'ed aerial look, the bait should work (in theory) against someone spamming Shield grabs.
Other uses of this idea:
Fair lag ducks these character's grabs:
Sheik
Ganon
Marth?
Nair lag ducks these character's grabs:
Ganon's
I'd love to make a complete list of which lags duck which grabs.
Thoughts/input/criticisms/suggestions?
If you haven't noticed yet, sometimes not doing the "Right" thing is a good thing to do against highly skilled opponents.
Not always fastfalling, recovering poorly, just plain old doing stupid things, is sometimes a good idea.
This can apply to peach in just dsmashing someone's shield 3 times in a row. Of course, one should do this when they're expecting some kind of other response after the dsmash, like a spotdodge or a roll. (Read->Drephen).
More specifically, I've been thinking recently how to apply this to Peach's shield pressure game.
The recent spamming of CCgrabs by both Marth and Sheik, have made Peach's FC->slap game very ineffective. Also there are many people who now will just wait after aerials for you to do something else on their shield and just grab you after that is over. Most characters buffer their aerial attacks now with something else (another attack or spotdodge), so merely waiting for a few frames after the initial aerial hit accounts for the large majority of mixups in the shield pressure game.
Even for the ones it doesn't, using this method combined with CCgrabs captures even more of the mixups.
Peach's solution?
Being bad at smash in the form of missing lcancels
-here-
I looked very hard for the video Ryoko had up where he demonstrated how the lag on Peach's fair makes her duck under Sheik's grab range. Undoubtedly any Peach player has had this work in his advantage a couple of times unintentionally, but perhaps it's time to make it an intentional tactic?
Keep getting shield grabbed by a sheik? Maybe it's time to stop FCing all your aerials and approach with a slightly less than FCed Fair. Peach's advantage is there is little difference in the way a FC'ed aerial and an nonFC'ed aerial look, the bait should work (in theory) against someone spamming Shield grabs.
Other uses of this idea:
Fair lag ducks these character's grabs:
Sheik
Ganon
Marth?
Nair lag ducks these character's grabs:
Ganon's
I'd love to make a complete list of which lags duck which grabs.
Thoughts/input/criticisms/suggestions?
