Instead of Shadow why not Silver

[Nietendodude]

Silver is a more original hedgehog than shadow and deserves it more than shadow(not trying to tick off any shadow fans). Silver, unlike Sonic and Shadow, does not possess super speed. Instead, he has telekinetic abilities, which are apparently quite normal in his time period. As such, he is capable of manipulating objects around him. He can also manipulate himself, levitating in the air and even zooming at high speeds.

 

[fleapy]

He does look very cool. Yet he would be very similar to a certain pokemon...

 

[Super_Cool]

The only Sonic character that could get in is Sonic. Got that? Good.

And even if there was gonna be another character to join him, it would be Tails. Not some Sonic-wannabe characters like Shadow or Silver.

 

[HiddenTiger]

The only Sonic character that could get in is Sonic. Got that? Good.

Aaaaaaaaaand Checkmate!

 

[DRD]

Don't give him that crap , 'Super cool'.

The objective of this thread is asking other's opinions of his usefulness in the game should he be entered.

You say that there is no chance of him entering, yet you could say the same of the hundreds of other things around here. I mean, look at Hidden Tiger over here. Elite Beat Agents? Ha, you've got to be ****ing kidding me.

 

[HiddenTiger]

The objective of this thread is asking other's opinions of his usefulness in the game should he be entered.

Not quite. The thread's title is 'instead of shadow why not silver'. Essentially, it's the same thing as asking 'Why not put Silver in instead of Shadow?" So SC is fully within his rights to comment on whether or not he wants Silver in and why. Also:

look at Hidden Tiger over here. Elite Beat Agents? Ha, you've got to be ****ing kidding me.

You got a problem with the Agents?

 

[DRD]

On the contrary, the intricate details Nietendo gave implies to me that he'd like others to think about how this would work out, not his inherent chances at getting in. Personally I do not believe he will get in, not anymore than The Elite Beat Agents. *scoffs*

And yes I do, because there is a negative percent chance that The EBA will not be in Brawl.

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

Dude... Don't diss the EBA.

 

[DRD]

Lol, you know my words hold the ring of truth, don't deny it >=)

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

I'm not expecting them in Brawl either, but still... don't diss the EBA.

 

[DRD]

Then you would know that I wasn't dissing them, I was saying that they won't be in Brawl, which needless to say is fact.

But were getting off topic, this is not a thread discussing EBA.

I can see the angle at which they would do this if they did, the did the same for Mewtwo and it worked well (even though they did **** up his physics) But if they don't do that to Silver than I think he would be a great character.

 

[kaid]

Silver has never, no my knowlege, been on a nintendo console. this disqualifies him for brawl, according to a statement by Sakurai himself on the Brawl website.

 

[DRD]

Whereas Sonic had, of course.

So was this just what Sakurai thought would happen, or a definitive statement?

 

[kaid]

It was one of the rules he emplaced on character suggestions, back when the poll was still open.

 

[DRD]

Hm, I can understand why he would want it completely Nintendo, or it would diminish the...what's the word? True Smash Values.

 

[Nietendodude]

Guys, guys, guys. This isn't about silver getting brawl it most obvious that Sonic will get the spot I'm saying maybe instead of shadow on stanby give it to silver. Beside most likely when the next game comes out for Smash; Silver will be on the Wii. Heck he could be in that next sonic game secret of the rings.

 

[kaid]

As far as I'm concerned, Blaze pwns them BOTH.

 

[Promethus]

Guys, guys, guys. This isn't about silver getting brawl it most obvious that Sonic will get the spot I'm saying maybe instead of shadow on stanby give it to silver. Beside most likely when the next game comes out for Smash; Silver will be on the Wii. Heck he could be in that next sonic game secret of the rings.

Except SEGA said the game will be only Sonic.
NO Eggman
NO Shadow
NO Tails, Blaze, Knuckles, Silver No anything.

Just Sonic.

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

As far as I'm concerned, Blaze pwns them BOTH.

QFT. Blaze > Shadow AND Silver

But yeah, all we can really expect to see is Sonic. If anyone else gets in, it would most likely be Tails, but even that's a hell of a streach...

 

[DRD]

Promethus, tell me that was a white lie and I WON't beat your face in.

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

Erm yeah... SEGA didn't really say anything on the matter. But still, I wouldn't expect anyone other than Sonic - it's just common sense...

 

[Promethus]

Promethus, tell me that was a white lie and I WON't beat your face in.

Wait I lied Eggmans in it but No Tailes or anyother characters.

and to quote

:May 10, 2006 - SEGA on Tuesday announced that it is planning to publish a brand new Sonic the Hedgehog game exclusive for Nintendo's Wii console. The project, called Sonic Wild Fire, pits the blue hedgehog in his first solo adventure since the original 1991 game, and combines "intense and exciting action" that "takes advantage of the innovative Wii controller."

 

[SwayneGang]

So that's Silver, huh? Thanks for uploading the image; I never actually got to see it before. In truth, I'm unfamiliar with Silver as I don't have an Xbox 360 or a PSP (not worth it, sorry to say). So I can't play the new Sonic games to try him out. But, getting back on topic....

Sad to say, I must agree. Silver probably won't be picked to join Brawl. Granted he looks awesome, and from what I've heard, has some nasty attacks (in a good nasty way), but like before, I've got to state the facts. First off (and I know I'll get slammed for this, but it's kinda the truth), he's a general newcomer to the gaming world entirely, so not everyone's gonna recognize him. Second, his method of fighting. Nintendo or Sakurai (or even both of them) may consider him a clone of Mewtwo, as mentioned by fleapy before. But if that's the case, I'll take Silver over Mewtwo anyday (no offense meant, honestly). Plus, they may even consider him too powerful.

Again, I have nothing against him. Silver's a cool guy, but I'd prefer Shadow in Brawl.

BTW, Telekinetic powers and Psychic powers. I'm pretty sure there's a difference between the two. Can someone clarify that for me? Thanks.

 

[Lord_Deathborne]

Oh... so you guys were talking about Sonic and the Secret Rings... my bad...

 

[DRD]

Sg: Psychokinesis (< Greek ψύχο- + κίνησις, literally "mind-movement") or PK, also known as telekinesis[1] (< Greek τῆλε + κίνησις, literally "distant-movement") or TK, is defined according to the Online Medical Dictionary[2], published by the Department of Oncology, University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, as the following (used with permission): "the influence of mind upon matter, as the use of mental 'power' to move or distort an object." Psychokinesis may also be described by other names, such as remote influencing, distant influencing, remote mental influence, distant mental influence, and directed conscious intention.

As an adjective, psychic refers to forces or agencies of a paranormal nature. As a noun, psychic refers to a medium or a person who has paranormal powers.

Courtesy of Wikipedia.

 

[LostAddict]

Prometheus: I'm pretty sure it just meant that Sonic is the only playable character. There'll probably be other characters shown... But, maybe not. Y'never know. And I don't think Shadow or Silver deserve to be in it. In my opinion, the order in which Sonic characters should appear is:

Sonic > Tails > Knuckles > Amy > Shadow > Blaze

Silver doesn't even qualify to be in it. And I really don't think that all of those characters deserve to be in either. Maybe in future sequels they'll include more Sonic characters, but I'm pretty sure we can bet that only Sonic will appear if his franchise is represented in Brawl.

 

[McFox]

So he'd be like Mewtwo, but he would suck more?

I fail to find any flaw with that.

 

[DRD]

He'd suck more than M2 would? What drew you to that conclusion?

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Dude.....how can you diss the EBA??

But still,this characters inclusion by far is not probable,and with the limited 3rd party space which is only 1 or 2 more max,Sonic is the only good inclusion to represent Sega.

Case and point.

 

[SwayneGang]

So he'd be like Mewtwo, but he would suck more?

I fail to find any flaw with that.

No, he'd be like Mewtwo, but better.

Sg: Psychokinesis (< Greek ψύχο- + κίνησις, literally "mind-movement") or PK, also known as telekinesis[1] (< Greek τῆλε + κίνησις, literally "distant-movement") or TK, is defined according to the Online Medical Dictionary[2], published by the Department of Oncology, University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, as the following (used with permission): "the influence of mind upon matter, as the use of mental 'power' to move or distort an object." Psychokinesis may also be described by other names, such as remote influencing, distant influencing, remote mental influence, distant mental influence, and directed conscious intention.

As an adjective, psychic refers to forces or agencies of a paranormal nature. As a noun, psychic refers to a medium or a person who has paranormal powers.

Courtesy of Wikipedia.

Thanks, but is there a difference between the two? That's what I was wondering.

 

[DRD]

Yes, obviously because they have 2 different definitions =)

Psychic pertains to anything about the paranormal, and telekinesis revolves around 'Mind-Over-Matter'. The ability to move things with one's mind, to heal, to create.

Personally I am very skeptical.

 

[Stryks]

Ok easy:

Does he deserve the shot?
Does he have the fan base?
Is he recognizable?

Ill answer those with one answer: NO... like super cool said, the only sonic character thats gonna get in smash is sonic himself, not some wannabe black sonic, and not some wannabe silver I-dont-run-but-have-psychic-powers sonic...

And DRD, EBA is the pwnage...

 

[McFox]

He'd suck more than M2 would? What drew you to that conclusion?

Because he's lamer than Shadow, who's already lamer-than-lame. Sega really needs to stop trying. He has the same powers as Mewtwo, but Mewtwo is cool.

 

[DRD]

Well, that's purely opinionated, I thought you had a genuine reason, like M2's physics are better, or something along those lines.

Stryks, I never dissed EBA, I was saying that there's no chance they'll get in.

 

[icymatt]

The EBA have a shot, but that's not the point of the thread.

Silver doesn't have a chance at this time. Never appeared on a Nintendo console. And even if he did, we don't need more than one Sonic character in Brawl. We're lucky we have the chance to have ANY Sonic characters in Brawl.

As well, saying that he has a chance in a FUTURE Smash Bros. is taking quite a few assumptions. You'd have to assume that:
(1) There will be another Smash Bros. game in the future (Not saying there won't be, I'm just saying that there is absolutely no way you can say there will be at this point. And why would you? We haven't even got the newest one yet. No point in talking about ANOTHER one.)
(2) Third-party characters will reappear in that future Smash Bros.
(3) They will allow MORE third-party characters in that Smash Bros. than they did in Brawl.

To cap things off: The grand majority of people think that Sonic being the only playable character in Secret Rings is a good thing.

 

[Destruction_King]

The EBA have a shot, but that's not the point of the thread.

Silver doesn't have a chance at this time. Never appeared on a Nintendo console. And even if he did, we don't need more than one Sonic character in Brawl. We're lucky we have the chance to have ANY Sonic characters in Brawl.

As well, saying that he has a chance in a FUTURE Smash Bros. is taking quite a few assumptions. You'd have to assume that:
(1) There will be another Smash Bros. game in the future (Not saying there won't be, I'm just saying that there is absolutely no way you can say there will be at this point. And why would you? We haven't even got the newest one yet. No point in talking about ANOTHER one.)
(2) Third-party characters will reappear in that future Smash Bros.
(3) They will allow MORE third-party characters in that Smash Bros. than they did in Brawl.

Don't forget that you also have to assume Sega will eventually put Silver into a Nintendo game, which seems kind of unlikely to me.


(Off topic)
On another note, I believe the EBA actually have a good shot at being in Brawl.

1. They're owned by Nintendo
2. They're new, and if they get a strong enough fanbase, could squeak onto Brawl.
3. This is the same company that put G&W on Melee.

In any case, they've got a MUCH better shot than Silver. Especially when including Silver in Brawl would only be advertisement for Sony and Microsoft.

 

[DRD]

It would be impossible for the EBA to be in Brawl because for one thing, they don't even attack. They don't have attacks. And don't say they could sing to cause damage, the game is about their songs helping people. Wtf?

Tell me how they are going to fight in Brawl, plus it's a team of 3 different people, and that'd be a little much. We already have a double, but a triple?

 

[Destruction_King]

It would be impossible for the EBA to be in Brawl because for one thing, they don't even attack. They don't have attacks. And don't say they could sing to cause damage, the game is about their songs helping people. Wtf?

I dunno. Ask Captain Falcon. Or Zelda. Or G&W.

Tell me how they are going to fight in Brawl, plus it's a team of 3 different people, and that'd be a little much. We already have a double, but a triple?

Who says they all have to fight at once? They may choose to put just one in the game, or switch them between colors/costumes.

 

[shadenexus18]

Nah man. Silver is a newbie & Shadow is not. Shadow has already established a fan base ya know what I'm sayin.

 

[Super_Cool]

It would be impossible for the EBA to be in Brawl because for one thing, they don't even attack. They don't have attacks. And don't say they could sing to cause damage, the game is about their songs helping people. Wtf?

Tell me how they are going to fight in Brawl, plus it's a team of 3 different people, and that'd be a little much. We already have a double, but a triple?

Captain Falcon just drove a car.
Fox just drove a space ship.
Ice Climbers jumped up a mountain.
Mr. Game & Watch did little tasks.
Dr. Mario just shot pills at viruses.

This game doesn't make sense, dude. That's what makes it fun. As for them fighting as a triple and dancing when they attack, that would be hilarious.