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Input Lag Test

Doggalina

Smash Lord
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As Fox players, we are especially sensitive to input lag. While we can often feel the lag when switching between an HDTV and a regular TV, it's nice to have some hard data. Well, you can use Rock Band to measure this. Just do a calibration test, and it'll tell you how much lag (audio and video) you have. I'm not sure if it makes a difference, but set your 360/PS3/Wii to 480i output.

My results:
Test 1 (using HDMI input, 1080p):
2ms audio lag
94 ms video lag

Test 2 (using composite input, 480i):
34ms audio lag
100 ms video lag

EDIT: I just redid my HDMI test, and it gave me 76 ms of video lag. Some variation, but that's still noticeable lag.

I knew I suspected something. That's a TENTH of a second (about 6 frames). I'm not using that TV for Smash anymore.

Further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag
 

chize

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Brockton, MA
i noticed lag when i play on flat tv's, even small ones, it's the worst on my 40 inch plasma, so i like to play on regular tv's
 

RaynEX

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so 6 frames and roughly 100 ms of lag. hmm

im going to start using this hard evidence as the reason to why my friends can't bring their tvs to stuff anymore. lol i hate when people think there isn't any lag on a tv when it CLEARLY is there. baha
 

Doggalina

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I usually play on this big TV, so I didn't notice. But then I decided to play a little on my old little TV, and the I was just moving so much more fluidly and the game itself was smoother. I was making less technical mistakes, too. My friends aren't going to like the new tiny TV though.

EDIT: One of my friends is being stubborn and refuses to play Melee on a 13" TV. I told him that he plays Kirby so he doesn't count.
 

SCOTU

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MI
Not all HDTVs are that bad. Most smaller ones that I've callibrated on have between 26 and 48 ms input delay.
 

Rubyiris

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Tucson, AZ.
CRT Monitors/TVs are infinitely better than HD Tvs/Monitors. The only real use for HD Tvs are for pretty pictures, and to be honest, a good CRT is just fine. =\

As far as I'm concerned, if you want high-def, go to the movie theater. =\
 

SCOTU

Smash Hero
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no. If you want HD, get a 65" CRT HD TV like me by buying one in 2005.

note: no lag. tested. verified.
 

TPoint1BUA

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Mar 22, 2008
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Cambridge, MA
I realize this is a bit of a Necro, but I had a related question I wanted to ask.

Does anyone if a Gamebridge adds on significant lag?
I use one both at home (on my desktop with a LCD monitor) and at my school (I use my laptop), and it felt really weird when I played on a CRT TV at a school event.
<Johns>I wasn't sure if this was because of a big difference in lag or because I'm just used to smaller screens or something else.</Johns>
I'd test it myself, but I lost my composite cable for my 360.
 

SCOTU

Smash Hero
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playing on through a gamebridge adds on immense amounts of delay. playing on an LCD monitor adds on some too.
 

FluxWolf

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CRT Monitors/TVs are infinitely better than HD Tvs/Monitors. The only real use for HD Tvs are for pretty pictures, and to be honest, a good CRT is just fine. =\

As far as I'm concerned, if you want high-def, go to the movie theater. =\
lol idiot.
 
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