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in dire need of help against jigg

Falcoy

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jul 25, 2007
Messages
6
i play farely well against any character with my falco and win the majority of the time
but when i play my friend(jigglypuff) i get murdered like you wouldnt believe
he plays mainly by shield grabbing, utilizing the wall of pain, Brolling and when i get hit off stage he fairs me till i cant return.
i know to hit im up but getting his damage up is extremely hard for me
so please any tips or advice will be greatly appriciated
 

B0mbe1c

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 14, 2007
Messages
1,330
Location
Maryland
Yeah, Jiggs is crazy against Falco. Try using a secondary falco that pwns jiggs. Also, for shield grab, u just have to SHFFL>shine so he can't grab u.
 

illboyzeus

Smash Ace
Joined
Nov 22, 2006
Messages
855
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Beyond the Bounds
Jiggs vs. Falco isn't so bad. I like the match actually, you can spam lasers at her till no end, so that eliminates all approaches. Just play as gay as the jiggs. Don't go for combos, and tech chase her with the dair, her roll is pitiful, so wait for it and punish it. Avoid stages like dreamland and mute city, you might want to change your char on those levels, but other than that just keep at it. I used to hate the matchup, but it now is okay since I figured falco has the ability to shut down jiggs approach. btw don't get grabbed.
 

hova

Smash Champion
Joined
Jul 5, 2005
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2,514
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Hiatus, MD
jiggs is such an easy match up once u learn it

just camp with lasers, then after that shoot some more lasers, act like ur approaching and then WD back and continue to shoot lasers, next you should run away and shoot lasers

i'm not even joking, anytime jiggs is in the air you should be shooting lasers; if they get a little too close for comfort just wait for them to throw out an aerial, nair through them and continue your lasers

if you're fast and smart jiggs won't be able to get near you while lasering

once they get tired of that they'll probably start crouching on the ground, now you should either dair > shine > bair or uair (or just hit them with another laser to make them feel worthless). or you can just grab them, not enough falcos grab jigglypuffs. you can't do anything from a grab, but you're doing damage and aren't getting rested so it's win win

at higher percents you can dair to dair to jab to whateva

just be really patient and sooner or later you'll land a bair or nair that sends them all the stage, shoot lasers at them while they're off and then edge guard with bair once they get close. if they try to come in low just wait for them to do something stupid and then spike them, but never leave the stage..... if you find they will make it back no matter what you do just set yourself up to shoot more lasers

also at higher percents you can dthrow to usmash if they don't DI correctly, but they can also rest you after your dthrow..... you can take the chance if you want



edit: learn to DI the uthrow, and if you are getting shield grabbed than you are starting your aerials too high in the air; if you dair or nair low enough and cancel into shine then there is nothing jiggs can do
 

Falco&Victory

Smash Champion
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Apr 28, 2006
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2,544
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South Hill, Washinton
Ok, I made a combo specifically for jiggs - SHL -> SHL -> SHL -> Repeat 5 times -> SHL approach -> SHL -> SHL then WD backwards -> SHL -> SHL -> Dair ->SHL....

seriously spam lasers until the jiggs is forced to attack vertically, then strike with dairs. Start them nice and early so you won't get uaired or rested.
 

technomancer

Smash Champion
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May 17, 2006
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Jiggs vs. Falco isn't so bad. I like the match actually, you can spam lasers at her till no end, so that eliminates all approaches. Just play as gay as the jiggs. Don't go for combos, and tech chase her with the dair, her roll is pitiful, so wait for it and punish it. Avoid stages like dreamland and mute city, you might want to change your char on those levels, but other than that just keep at it. I used to hate the matchup, but it now is okay since I figured falco has the ability to shut down jiggs approach. btw don't get grabbed.
tech chase what... what... lasers don't really work too well here... best bet is to pick up Fox, or Marth, or hell I herd that Pikachu was good at this Pokemon battle. You stand a good chance on Yoshi's, but all the characters mentioned stand a better chance on Yoshi's...
 

Eggm

Smash Hero
Joined
Aug 29, 2006
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5,178
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Neptune, NJ
A good way to frustrate jiggs players besides laser spam which u should do is sh non fast fall bairs theres no delay when you land so you can spam them and then they will back off and then u can shoot even more lasers. xD
 

daddy neptune

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Nov 24, 2006
Messages
80
Location
Dayton,OH
Ok, I made a combo specifically for jiggs - SHL -> SHL -> SHL -> Repeat 5 times -> SHL approach -> SHL -> SHL then WD backwards -> SHL -> SHL -> Dair ->SHL....

seriously spam lasers until the jiggs is forced to attack vertically, then strike with dairs. Start them nice and early so you won't get uaired or rested.
Are you Mathos?
 

ZTSu

Smash Rookie
Joined
Aug 12, 2007
Messages
4
I have the same problem against jiggs, just stay away. (Uthrow + rest!!!!!!)
 

PANTSMAGEE

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Aug 18, 2007
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86
no you should just run up to jigg then roll to the other side and then grab and throw and also spike
 

technomancer

Smash Champion
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May 17, 2006
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edit: wow I totally missed the burnage hova laid on me, he is correct I do not know how to fight jiggs with Falco... or really anyone except CF
 
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