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iRjOn

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If you dont remember oh well
:O

After awhile of thought I finally see and figure Snakes my best character.
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I cant deny it any longer.

Dont worri I'm not trying to make spam.
So to make use of this...

What do you all think I've missed since I left in September?
Any new discoveries?
Anything interesting?
Match up changes ex.?

I've looked around but rather just annouce my return to all of Snake boards in some way.

So my questions.

Those up there and 1 more thing.
Who are Snakes worst match ups now?
and 1 more thing
:D
The ratios for them are?


Well here I am
:D

Its me iRjOn AKA iron
:D
 

SuSa

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We have stickies, and a compendium, and like 200509349 topics made by me for a reason.

I suggest:

Read every thread you don't remember reading in the "Everything you ever needed to know" sticky. In fact, I suggest reading them all just to read them all so you don't have to read them all at some point or another, unless to double-check something.

Go study now =p
 

SuSa

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I haven't been here since Sept. So I can't tell you.

1) We have a grab release CG on Falco (maybe a few others)

2) C4 lasts 26.5 seconds, Mine lasts 25 Seconds (counting the 1-2 seconds it wont blow up)

3) We can utilt people off the ledge, same with dash attack

4) We have death %'s for C4, uncharged mines, and charged mines. Useful to know if you're the kind of person that sets up "throw" traps

5) Uthrow is ****ing epic, but I haven't posted as to why. (And even then, dthrow is better)
 

Shadow_of_Link

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I use U-throw and try to follow them in the air for another grab...but I doubt that's the epic thing havokk's getting at >.>

Edit: Spelled havokk's name wrong, lol.
 

Taeran

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5) Uthrow is ****ing epic, but I haven't posted as to why. (And even then, dthrow is better)
Uthrow is the only throw that can give you much combo potential, (not tech chasing) and you can lay something/retreat at higher percentages.

Now, I formally dub myself Sensai's barely-sentient work monkey.
lol
 

Nic64

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idk matchups are largely subjective, uh, recently I've started to think that olimar is the only character that truly has an advantage on snake, I hate that ****er so much =/ but I think in general most peoples opinions haven't changed much, although I think I've seen more people as of late that don't think DDD is so bad if you just camp your *** off(which is boring, and it's totally ******** that characters like DDD and the IC's can make the game so gay, but I've had some success with this...)
 

iRjOn

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Hmm Olimar huh?
My old Snake handle desent Oli's pretty well.
Idk about now because my friend changed mains to Peach.

D3 yea I'd just out camp him.

And Falco just gotta stay prone.
I am really good a doing things from being prone
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Some people say ROB...
idk is he that bad?
 

8AngeL8

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Not at all, I think it's even. Snake just needs to play more aggressive than usual. His camp beats yours, so just use mines to control the ends of the stage and force him to the center, and grab and jab away.

If he starts planking, use Nikita, mortars, mines and 'nades to force him back onstage.
 

Nic64

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it can depend on the stage, I'd ban battlefield against him personally provided that you don't have to worry about anything super gay like jungle japes but I think ROB is a near even match in any case, and the big thing with falco is just not getting CG'd. a lot of snakes even think it's worth it just to blow yourself up a few times and not risk getting edge ***** after the CG but I tend to just be incredibly campy until I hit 40% and it usually works out alright

idk I think olimar is just in my head in general as of late, but of all my characters especially with snake, he outcamps him and is **** near impossible to approach, snakes easiest way to shake off latched pikmin will stale his best kill move and he's not particularly great at gimping which is olimar's only real weakness... maybe I just need to play more of them and figure them out some...
 

8AngeL8

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I actually think Olimar does badly against Snake. If you're good at techchasing, it's not impossible to get more than 50% off a grab. He rolls slow and doesn't go far, so if you can react quickly he's screwed. Shield dropped 'nades have more range than Pikmin, too. If you save Ftilt rather than spacing with it, you can knock him away at, like, 90 and gimp him.
 

Taeran

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Never try to "noob edgehog" Olimar, as in just hanging on the edge, because his upB will stagespike you.

@The ROB thing, I've never had any problems with him because I play a very fluctuating Snake, it's either being very aggressive or very campy.
 

8AngeL8

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Haha, I actually saw someone lose a tourney set because of that. Both on last stock high damage, Oli gets knocked away and the other just sits on the ledge and gets stage spiked to die faster than Oli falls. Super lame.
 

Nic64

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yeah, that's a bad idea if you're at a high percent lol. tech chasing is really great on olimar but grabbing him in the first place can be extremely problematic, it's kind of that way for most characters you can do sick things to him if you can manage to get past all the camping without getting grabbed and combo'd for 50% and then probably chased down for even more but a good camping olimar is so hard to break. like I said, that might just partly be me, and it's not totally snake exclusive for me...also if the olimar DI's it right I'm not sure the ftilt is going to set him up for an actual gimp given it's trajectory...
 

iRjOn

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if someone posts a question on a new thread give them a link to the snake Q&A thread.
Sup long time see aye...lol

I saw that thread...
Read my whole post you'll see why I didn't use it...

Hmmm so Olimar is Snake's main prob?

Snake is good as crap at edge gaurding >.>...
His nikita is gold prime here stage spike tether recoveries ftw!
And his C4 stage spike is beautiful!

So D3 really isn't a problem?

I thought ROB was close to even...
 
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