SonicLuigi
Smash Journeyman
ok from some of the forums ive been reading (none from here cuz i just joined) and i heard that ike is gonna be a slow, yet powerful player... i hope hes not that slow.....i cant play with slow characters
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Unfortunately speed is just as important in teams. Also power alone in teams is a double edged sword because your partner can get caught up in your own attacks.yea, but i also heard he is amazing in 2vs2 because of his power moves. if you master him he could easily be top tier
Unfortunately that's what a lot of us thought. Ike's start-up lag is kind of hidden, for lack of a better word. He looks faster than he really is.From the videos I've seen though, he is definitely pretty slow... but he isn't THAT slow haha, It doesn't seem like he's as slow to me as everyone is saying.
Alright, so now we know. Ike is a serious powerhouse, the strongest character BY FAR (at least in the demo) but he has some pretty intense drawbacks. As a player who uses the “slow but strong” character in Melee well I can see the limitations of another “slow but strong” character pretty easily as far as potential goes. Bowser in melee was slow but strong, and so was Ganon. I play both of those characters (although only Bowser in tournament). Ganon is CLEARLY the better of the two for multiple reasons. Now – for a moment – let’s compare Ike from Brawl to the Ganon/Bowser “slow but strong” character setup. Ganon and Bowser both have several moves that activate quickly or have a lot of shield stun or have a large amount of range or can grab from the air. They both have some manner of safety in their approaches or have at least some manner of speed in their character. Ike on the other hand seemingly has none of these positive factors. Ike is much, MUCH slower than either Ganon OR Bowser. I realize that this is a new physics engine, but he is VERY slow when compared to the rest of the cast. I'm trying to put the least amount of bias in this update that I can. I really wanted Ike to be good after seeing him played, and I honestly didn't believe that he was as slow as people were telling me; then I played as him. His aerials are ALL slow, his tilts are slower than most smashes, his smashes are almost the same speed as his tilts. He really, REALLY lacks in speed. After watching some of the videos of Ike I find myself doubting that he is really as slow as I recall. Visually some of the startup of his moves is actually hidden; he appears to be much faster than he really is in the videos. Let me make another thing clear. Ike is NOT very laggy. Ike does NOT have a large amount of lag after his aerials, he just has slow activation time on them, which is MUCH more difficult to get around on a competitive level of play. If there is a Nintendo representative reading this somehow I implore you, please DECREASE the activation or startup time of SOME of Ike’s moves. He only needs some manner of safety or a move to combo into his ridiculously strong moves at very least.
His sword is what makes him slow. It says so in the update.Ike may appear slow, but I need to play as him to be sure.
My vote goes for eliwood, weather if he was or wasnt liked in japan. and micaiah as a hidden promotion character doesnt sound improbable either...I still say Nephenee would be the most awesome FE rep XD
But of those previously mentioned, Mia would really be my favorite.
i'd love to see him he was awesome in PoR...as for ike i have 2 try him out maybee there r ways around his "slowness"The secret character is Stefan from PoR.
yea....thats probably what everyone means by "slow."In the videos i've seen ike doesn't move that slow,
he just attacks slow.
The secret character is Stefan from PoR.
I think they are fixing Ike's laggyness now. :D Atleast he has one throw combo now from todays update.
Yeah, but has anyone considered that the characters in the demo are the ones that have been finished in game development? I don't think that they would make any character alterations in this breif period time they recieved. Hopefully, they can Fix Ike's speed, but in exchange nerf his power a bit.Ike is slow in the demo. Come on, people! I know we like Ike, but we can't let our bias make us blind to the fact that he's slow.
He was still powerful in FE9, but was extreamly fast as well.I think Sakurai is using the FE9 outfit, but Ike from FE10. He likes that costume better, and with all that power comes from FE10. Who says you can't change clothes? It makes sense. But atleast unlag his moves a bit.
Maybe, but if Ike was finished, I would expect his super armor to not be buggy, unless that whole mechanic was buggy in the demo.Yeah, but has anyone considered that the characters in the demo are the ones that have been finished in game development? I don't think that they would make any character alterations in this breif period time they recieved. Hopefully, they can Fix Ike's speed, but in exchange nerf his power a bit.