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Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
Last time I checked... that was called 'intolerance', which is just as bad as ignorance. You're toeing a very fine line yourself, so maybe YOU need to do some thinking.
By the way... that article, which I have read, is also quoted WAY too often. Maybe people need to, I don't know... formulate their own thoughts instead of mindlessly quoting others?
ska5fe
Smash Rookie
My favorite part of that article is how he asserts that tournaments players literally have more fun than 'scrub' players, as if that's quantifiable. Also:
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1) Depends on what you're intolerant against. I'm intolerant against racism. Is that so bad? I'm so intolerant against stupidity. And people walking into an environment with a lot of Competitive Fighter players and spouting off about how they're playing it "wrong" or using "cheap tactics" and the likes while not grasping what "Playing to win" is stupid.
2) Why should we not quote it? It's easier than spelling out what it says in all of the threads in which people whine about "cheap tactics".
3) The OP should've worded the OP better, though. That I can agree on.,
meatpopsicle
Smash Apprentice
Who dislikes competitive gamers for being competitive gamers? I'm a smash tourney-goer and nobody hates me for taking smash as seriously as I do. I think you just have a problem with particular people's attitudes that you attribute (unfairly) to a larger group (called stereotyping). the best smash players i've played against, and i've played some **** good people in my time, don't have any kind of attitude and have in fact been the most helpful/ nice to me.
Negative Zero
Smash Apprentice
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I'd like to point out that Adenosine Diphosphate is occasionally also broken down into Adenosine Monophosphate to liberate extra energy.
ChrisLionheart
Smash Apprentice
A good example of "broken" in melee is the wobbles combo with ice-climbers
Competitive gaming philosophy lol.
But really, its no different a medium then chess..infinite layers of depth and strategy. (chess is the superior game of mental combat imho)
Most people can't or don't want to grasp the concept of a competitive video games though, but I have a feeling that the future is gonna change that.
It really is just two groups of people, one side just likes the game a lot more(cause they are competitive, kinda hard to argue with that) and ones that get beat a lot by the more competitive players.
The "scrubs" are just a name given to the people that make the game less fun to the advanced players, in my experiences.
But really, its no different a medium then chess..infinite layers of depth and strategy. (chess is the superior game of mental combat imho)
Most people can't or don't want to grasp the concept of a competitive video games though, but I have a feeling that the future is gonna change that.
It really is just two groups of people, one side just likes the game a lot more(cause they are competitive, kinda hard to argue with that) and ones that get beat a lot by the more competitive players.
The "scrubs" are just a name given to the people that make the game less fun to the advanced players, in my experiences.
Negative Zero
Smash Apprentice
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Or shine spiking. Or the pillar. Or grabbing. Or attacking.
Wobbling can take out one life with a grab if Nana is nearby, not attacking, the grabbed player doesn't shake out of the grab before the headbutt, and nothing will forseeably interrupt it.
A shine spike has the potential to instantly kill many characters if they are off of the stage.
The pillar unavoidably breaks shields, which lands free smashes which lead to edgeguarding which lead to death.
What makes Wobbling so special, again?
Wobbling can take out one life with a grab if Nana is nearby, not attacking, the grabbed player doesn't shake out of the grab before the headbutt, and nothing will forseeably interrupt it.
A shine spike has the potential to instantly kill many characters if they are off of the stage.
The pillar unavoidably breaks shields, which lands free smashes which lead to edgeguarding which lead to death.
What makes Wobbling so special, again?
Wiseguy
Smash Champion
Isn't is cool when people define themslves and others based on how they play a videogame?
And by cool, I mean pathetic.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
1) That's not what I said. The OP said (not exact quotation; paraphrase), "If you don't agree with this, than you're ignorant", from which, you can infer that he means, "If you don't agree with ME, you're ignorant." THAT is called intolerance. Racism is intolerance because it is unnecessary hate toward a group simply for being different. The OP agrees with the linked-to article, which is basically an op-ed piece, or an opinion-based article. That means that the OP is telling people who don't agree with his opinion that they are ignorant. That is intolerance. That is wrong.
2) I have no problem with using quotations... but that (again) opinion-based article has been quoted so much that I'm willing to bet that some people now link to it without even reading the whole thing! If you are going to quote an opinion-based article (one that I have read and one that I do agree with, by the way), you have to be willing to support your assertion, because you cannot use an opinion-based article as though it is fact, which has been going on a lot on these boards lately.
3) Agreed.
Jeff Highwind
Smash Ace
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People tend to clutch on whatever talent they think they have, however trivial it may be.
meatpopsicle
Smash Apprentice
Wobbling is "special" because once you're grabbed there's NOTHING you can do against a wobbling opponent.
While shinespiking has gimping potential, if you're an intelligent player you can avoid it and even (pretty easily) punish someone who tries to shinespike you.
Pillaring doesn't "unavoidably" break shields. There is a lot of tech skill involved, even pros mess up pillaring here and there. Wobbling all you're doing is pressing A. But more importantly, you can always do something to escape (even punish) a pillaring opponent, like roll, or spot dodge and do a quick attack.
Anything else?
really_calm
Smash Journeyman
Well that's not really fair to a lot of people. It's placing a huge stereotype on people at the forums who love this game. At this forum, we should be promoting people's passion for the game. They're passionate enough to have their own ideas and opinions about it, which is good. If not they would just be mindlessly playing it.
And I'm sure MOST people here don't completely define themselves by smash. I'm sure they have things in school, work or outside activities they're dedicated to also.
If people want to express themselves through a video game, should we really stifle it?
I'm all for disagreement and further discussion though. Saying that if you don't agree with an article, it makes you ignorant is going too far. It's kind of really ignorant to post that on a thread in a FORUM, which has the function of DISCUSSION.
Jack Kieser
Smash Champion
You, sir, have won! Your prize? The internets.
meatpopsicle
Smash Apprentice
Couldn't have said it better myself, really calm.
really_calm
Smash Journeyman
I'd like to thank my parents and ISP. Without them I would never be able to internet.
Ya I know how people just love to shut other people down because they believe they have all the answers. I was just trying to make a small effort not to perpetuate that trend on these boards.