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Since many people are saying that Fox will drop in tier, who will be higher tier than he?
Explain why also, just to know what Fox is missing.
Explain why also, just to know what Fox is missing.
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Marth has not been nerfed nearly as much as Fox was though...Marth has been greatly nerfed, he still is strong, but his range and (most importantly) his Grab were totally nerfed.
His is just good now.
excuse me? Are we talking about the same game? marth is exactly the same minus the grabs. marth will be higher on the list than fox. Maybe They will be in the same tier but marth is higher than fox.I doubt marth will surpass Fox.
He has been nerfed like a ***** also.
Pit has potential to surpass Fox, but he is not as fast as Fox, so I don't think he will replace him.
Well, we'll just have to wait and see. Judging by how much development time has been used just to create this game, I bet the whole roster will be fairly balanced. There will always be a tier list for those who choose a main based on other's opinions, but I don't think we'll really need one this time.Doesn't look like they... balanced... Marth though...
I completely agree! Though I do believe in tiers (the chances of a Jugglypuff/Purin beating Marth are highly unlikely in imo), they arecompletly based on the fans. For example, in Melee, I usually play as Fox. My two friends, E.J. and Martin, play as Samus and Link respectively. Even though Fox is "Top Tier," and Samus and Link are lower on the scale, its still a challenge for me to fight them. Even with Waveshines and Shine Spikes, they've been playing for too long.I think a lot (I didn't say all) of Fox users are upset about him dropping in the tier list. Truth is, tiers are made not by the game, but by our own minds. If you think JigglyPuff is awesome, and you play her with a winning spirit, chances are you will be successful.
Oh, and they didn't nerf Fox, they balanced him.
Its not how often a character is chosen, but how well the character does in tournaments.Tiers are decided depending on how often a character is chosen in tournament battles or vs matches, etc.
A list?
Now why would you need that.
Take my word for it the shine will NOT have any relationship to comboing in brawl, unless your opponent is literally mentally disabled. Sure you can drillshine and nair>shine, but you can't do anything to follow that up.if fox is going to drop in tier list, then he will be in the top 3 again once they find new combos with his new shine mechanics.
In melee, Fox was never below high tier (check the smashwiki). And your argument that new techniques will be discovered can apply to any character. Trust me, Fox was at the top of the list. He was just begging to be nerfed....controlfreak isn't that what we thought about fox in melee? Because i could have sworn that i was told of fox once being in mid/low tier until they finally thought about his speed and his ability to use shines were recognized later.. Sooner or later, we will find mechanics in Brawl that will affect everyone's game play just like in melee. Who knows? maybe we'll find something that will put Fox back into the top of the top of the playing field. All I have to say is behold the power of M2K lol..
Oops, I missed that part. Sorry.TehBo, I never said M2K would only find techs for Fox. I said it could happen. Besides, I did say that there would be techs that would effect -everyone-
Reread my post and try not to be so ignorant.
I hope you're being sarcastic about the marth part. I'm gonna say wolf for top tier cuz he looks awesome.Ike is way too slow to be able to defeat Fox in the Tier list my friend....
And with the nerfs that Marth got....
If you haven't noticed, marth DID get some nerfs....I hope you're being sarcastic about the marth part. I'm gonna say wolf for top tier cuz he looks awesome.
He may have gotten some nerfs(sword is shorter).. but he also got buffed(better fair combos, more power from the tipper, faster)... which doesn't make senseIf you haven't noticed, marth DID get some nerfs....
Pretty much everyone in melee did.....