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Actually, bombs don't touch shields at all in PM. They just go right through and hit your opponent. It's one of the things that Samus is still lacking, though it's somewhat useful in it's own right. You can't use them for shield pressure because they can't hit shields. Instead, it's a free 8% to a potential followup when you have the opportunity.
Nope, just goes through. My roommate noticed it before I did, it just doesn't interact with shield at all.
Damn... thats something the PMBR team should really add on the list of tweaks to samus
Yeah, I would love to lay on shield pressure like I see in melee. That and melee tether would just about make her complete. Also extender, but that seems unnecessary and unlikely.
Well last hitbox is the only one with enough knockback to shield poke, but the problem is getting samus in the back to back position in the first place
It only has potential if my previous options are implemented to the melee bomb and how it affected their opponent, if it was left as is in melee, its uses are still extremely limited
I think that was a misconception, as far as I can tell, they just ignore shields completely.
Yes it was my mistake, you can bomb off your opponent in shield, but you can not bomb off their shield. Which is strange, because these bomb's ignore all rules that shielding has established up to this point in this smash series.
So I tried this out, and it's difficult to get back-to-back. The bomb turns them around so you'd have to airdodge through them and to the ground after detonating it. I landed it in front a couple times, but it pretty much comes down their reaction. It's just really confusing for them. I landed like three bomb-dashes in a row against a guy just because he kept shielding and trying to use laggier moves. I'd put it as an occasional mix-up because I doubt it would work well on experienced opponents. Bomb into D-air is much safer, so mixing between that and going back down for another bomb or waveland->forward-smash if they shield is probably better usually.hmmm this did get me thinking though... samus can actually create hitstun on an opponent in shield, just a thought, but bomb on an opponent in shield into a wavedash back to ground, so you are back to back with your opponent, into fire upsmash, wanna try that out for me @Chevy ?
Thats disappointing, ive been trying to effectively implement samus's upsmash for a while, and there are such few instances where its a viable option, and even fewer where it is the optimal move choice :'(, the quest continues
Maybe it's just me but I use Up-Smash all the time. It's my go-to out of down-throw, and chains into itself at least once if they don't SDI well. Sometimes up to 5 or so times on spacies. It can be really degenerate. It's still fairly good anti-air, and with the improved hitboxes you can use it on the ground fairly easily when you have a good punish opportunity, as it sets them for another chain of aerials. I've even used it a few times on opponents recovering above the ledge if they don't have good disjoints. It can even kill at high percents now. Granted, none of my regular opponents really SDI that well, but even in tournament, there's only been like one guy who's gotten out of it fairly consistently.
yeah lol the people I play DI well, and I think you are a little confused as to what SDI is... because the majority of throw you can't SDI, at least that is the case in melee, I am not sure about PM
I meant SDI the Up-Smash. In any case Up-Smash is much better than in Melee.
