Ice Climber Help (newb alert)

[l3lue2ain]

I played IC back in the day with melee but i never got to good with them because I mained marth and lets face it once you could wavedash, l-cancel, and do the ken combo you were set back then. So i got brawl and i tried playing it alot of aspects of the game dramatically changed it does not seem nearly as good as melee. People got really hard nerfs after playing it a few weeks I tried everyone but I decided that I don't want to be a spaming pit hore without wavedashing marth lost alot of his "zest" ike , seemed ok but he is still to slow "I know he can be good because of silven" but i don't want to play him.

So I decided that I am going to put all my energy and love into Ice Climber I remember chudat being sick. He ***** me with that frostbite combo lol still leaves a scar. Also within the group of friends I play with IC don't get the proper respect they deserve. So I am asking for you guys and girls if your out there help. I refuse to be mediocre or bad in brawl because i remember when I would play some back in the day and they say what is wavedashing I don't want to be that person.

So I decided to play IC but I can see that i suck with them. Get punished all the time by Metaknight, Diddy ( stupid bannas), Ike, Lucoario, Kirby and pit. I feel like i am just blocking and trying to get a smash in. Like I have no technique or kill mekenisim.


Please help.....everything from the basics up :\. Also something i was really interested in wii remote or Game cube controller.

 

[I.iZ.nO.1]

i know this may be quite a read http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165656
but it helped me out a lot. i would say, try to master CGs and Desynchs, it will help you out a lot.

Here are some tips nintendogs gave me that have helped me out
1. Desync more

2. Use squall as your primary recovery. Mash that Button!

3. Use desynced blizzards when at a short - medium distance from your opponent, and also when he/she is not a character with a great airial game such as Meta Knight or ROB.

4. Use Blizzard A LOT!

5. Don't Get Hit! Just try to focus on not letting your opponent hit you with any of his/her attacks. It really works!

 

[Miller]

i know this may be quite a read http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165656
but it helped me out a lot. i would say, try to master CGs and Desynchs, it will help you out a lot.

Here are some tips nintendogs gave me that have helped me out
1. Desync more

2. Use squall as your primary recovery. Mash that Button!

3. Use desynced blizzards when at a short - medium distance from your opponent, and also when he/she is not a character with a great airial game such as Meta Knight or ROB.

4. Use Blizzard A LOT!

5. Don't Get Hit! Just try to focus on not letting your opponent hit you with any of his/her attacks. It really works!

Alot of that stuff... Wow

1) Obviously
2) Really, only when your equal level with the stage, its much safer to go with Belay
3) MK and Rob have great arial game, Its just that blizzard makes them go above you and IC Uair out-prioritizes alot of Dairs
4) No, using any move alot is a no no. Spamming will get you punished, use it at certain times where it'll count, throwing one or two out there at random times is fine, but make sure when you do use it, its gunna hit.
5) WOW, isnt that what smash is about, hit your opponent, but don't get hit yourself...

 

[l3lue2ain]

wow that was a extremely long read. Thanks everyone for their input was looking through it seems like I have more comprehension than i do ability ;\. I saw this guy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBNGVrQd3dc

I can do pretty much all of that up until 1:00

The only somewhat cool thing i can do is this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op4xMZsFJl0&feature=related

the first combo but its not really that consistent I can probably do it 50 - 60%

I am randomly seeing all this good stuff. I was wondering why everyone kept saying us squal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqkyizLhlvk&feature=related

best IC recovery I have seen.

It seems like chain grabbing loses its effectiveness after 40-45 ;\ .