I think the 2ch leak is an elaborate fake

[zdude255]

There are a number of issues with the 2ch photos.

Circumstantial Issues
Why would anyone that was gonna leak the game only post two simple pictures of stuff we already know.

The box case is not seen, that could be any Wii case. Why not show the case to prove you have it?

Physical Issues

All of the artwork on the character screen on Dojo somewhere. The characters are all from the character pages and the difficulty meter is constructed from
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea07.html
Albeit the japanese version.

The style of the boxes is constructed from the demo versions that have been previewed at E4All and elsewhere. Some of the characters don't match exactly, but this could also have been an oversight.

The disc artwork is just the cover with some filters applied, it looks like they did print it to an actual disc. The smash logo is well-known enough to be predicted. The copyright text was probably just grabbed from another Nintendo game.

The white background makes me think that a label was printed and put on another disc. They added some shine to the Wii logo, but that is easily photoshopped or done physically with shiny stickers.

The biggest thing that makes me think it's fake is the crappy red circles used for stock. The Brawl team isn't going to have lazy art on something like that.

It's rather easy to get an image from a computer to a TV. A lot of graphics cards have S-Video out and can hook up directly to a TV. I have done it before myself actually. (Movies/Anime on TV from computer) It may also be displayed via the Wii photo channel, there's quite a few ways to fake this.

In conclusion, I think this is an elaborate fake. Which is why no other screenshots have come out. Seriously, if I had the game I'd post a ton more than one screenshot for you guys...

 

[Dry Bones]

the screenshot looks real to me, but you do make good points

 

[MAST3R]

I agree with you:

The Disc would actually be real easy to fake..
1. get a blank CD
2. Make a convincing CD lable on your comp.
3. Print it out
4. Stick it on your blank CD
5. Put it in a wii box
6. Take pics
7. Upload to internet


The starting roster looks fake as well the sheik/Zelda pic just dosent look right to me..

But it could be real ya never know.

 

[Illyasvel]

The stocks are in circles this time, sorry to tell you that.

 

[Corax The Cold]

well the argument would be that they are too busy playing it (i know i would be) but yea im 99% sure its fake.

 

[kashikomarimashita]

Yeah I agree with you. But there is one thing you made a mistake on. The Wii logo is shiny because it is an opening that reveals the disk surface below. Thus, making it even easier to copy, since you dont need any additional material to create the effect.

 

[DstyCube]

The biggest thing that makes me think it's fake is the crappy red circles used for stock. The Brawl team isn't going to have lazy art on something like that.
.

It's sad, but thats how stock is in brawl

Note the circles by the portraits.

But I support this thread, and I probably won't believe much of these posts until the official release in Japan. Then we'll know for sure.

You made some really nice points, and it's good to know that not EVERYONE is taking everything they see on the internet at face value.

 

[zdude255]

Hmm, but they may not be the same on the menu screen as they are ingame.

It seems they could use the same little icons they used for stickers. (From the Ness/Puff leak)

The big circles just seem really bland for the character screen. For the actual game they aren't as distracting as icons so that's why they would be there.

 

[JohnAnon]

Of course, and the 35-character roster is COMPLETELY TRUE, right?

 

[zdude255]

Of course, and the 35-character roster is COMPLETELY TRUE, right?

No, I don't believe that crap. Sakurai is keeping more secrets before the game comes out, he's not going to have announced most of it before release.

"I can tell you that for everyone working on this game, the amount of content has been surprising to say the least."
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage21.html

 

[DstyCube]

Ooo, Sakurai quotes! Let me try.

"But even without this mode, given the proliferation of the Internet these days, the existence of hidden characters is going to get exposed anyway."
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi04.html

Oh wait...

 

[CAPTAIN BUTTS]

"Heart Swaaaaaaaaap!"

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/mball/mball09.html

 

[lethminite]

Of course, and the 35-character roster is COMPLETELY TRUE, right?

off the profits reputation alone, i would believe this roster.
however, there are some holes in it:
A) ROB (nes) while in some videos, and in brawl, is shown in double, would be the only playable character who is not unique
B) ROB (fox) would make 4 fox reps, with only one metroid, also ignores krystal which just doesn't sit right.
C) while never taken very seriously, i liked cloud theory a lot.

is a frame used in the "this world" update, ganon, bowser and ridley can be seen in the clouds.
if the roster is right, ridley would be the only non-playable baddy their.
D) while i still believe that the profits are legit, i have a feeling they leaked bad info this time, abusing their rep to cause this whole fiasco.
E) while i havn't played melee too much, i remember locked boxes being blacked out, not absent completely (i could be wrong on this on, and in trying to see if i was, i found out that there are no SS of melee's starting roster on the web, or least not that google knows)
F) icon 19 is not known, or used. it seems odd to have a unrevealed stage with no character. yet to reveal all the others, or to have a gap left in your icons, which will obviously be picked up on, and not just have the hidden icons after the last one you plan to reveal. i don't give icon theory any credit, but it's proven that other then the 64-melee-brawl order, there is no order to the icons that would force 19 to be 19.

 

[mrbiz]

Thats a point: in the previous starting screen there was question mark boxes. But I suppose that could easily change.

 

[TK Wolf]

Ooo, Sakurai quotes! Let me try.

"But even without this mode, given the proliferation of the Internet these days, the existence of hidden characters is going to get exposed anyway."
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi04.html

Oh wait...

That's taken out of context. He was saying that if someone unlocked a secret character, others brawling with them can see it, and it wouldn't make a difference, because shortly after the game is released, the secrets will be widespread on the internet. Never did he state that the secrets were available on the net (and Dojo) right now.

 

[Aeramis]

I still don't know what to believe but I do think zelda/sheik look odd.

 

[DstyCube]

That's taken out of context. He was saying that if someone unlocked a secret character, others brawling with them can see it, and it wouldn't make a difference, because shortly after the game is released, the secrets will be widespread on the internet. Never did he state that the secrets were available on the net (and Dojo) right now.

Some people are too serious on these boards -_- lol. I put that because i felt:

"I can tell you that for everyone working on this game, the amount of content has been surprising to say the least."
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage21.html

Didn't really have much bearing on how well Sakurai was going to keep his secrets, seeing as how Ness, Lucario, and Jigglypuff have already been leaked by an official source.

 

[Zinc]

Just to add this is indeed fake.
why?
R.O.B
first off they stated that it was R.O.B from Starfox.

now tell me.
why is there a trophy of him in the coin launcher update people?

 

[Dry Bones]

now tell me.
why is there a trophy of him in the coin launcher update people?

huh? where's this? find this screenshot, convince everyone, and you will become my hero =)

 

[SPP Kirby]

huh? where's this? find this screenshot, convince everyone, and you will become my hero =)

This one maybe ?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Very very tiny...but this has to be him unless there's a C3P0 statue in the game.

 

[Dry Bones]

someone should post it in that other giant thread... im convinced =) thank god

 

[Maricalistaro]

Umm, Isn't the games rating supposed to be on the disk itself? Im not sure about japanese games but all U.S. games have them directly on the disk.

 

[Percon]

The leak is interesting, but a few things don't feel right.

Firstly, the Zelda + Shiek icon... Why show both? Samus isn't, and Zelda wasn't showing Shiek in Melee. Not only that, but Sheik is IN FRONT of Zelda, making sheik look like the prominent character here. And the whole thing just looks a bit awkward.

Then there's the R.O.B. thing... as Zinc said, he's already a trophy in the coin launcher update. If he was indeed playable, this isn't how you'd get his trophy.

That only leaves NES R.O.B., who has also already been revealed as the ancient minister's escort. Though not entirely out of the question, "there are some that fire beams and others that fire missiles". I hardly think you could make a character of just that. Or if not, it just seems odd...

Finally... the "Tv 1" in the corner. While adding to legitimacy, it also makes it seem more fake in a way. Now, I don't know how things work in Japan, but on my TV is says "TV 1/S video/whatever" for only a few seconds then disappears. In the time it takes for the Wii to boot up, select the game from the menu and then wait for the game to boot, then go to the character select screen it would have disappeared. The only way that display could be showing is if they went through all the menus with the TV off then turned it on (nearly impossible with Wii channels) OR if they got to the select screen, changed the channel/input, then changed it back... why would they do that?

 

[ToddCam]

Also, why is the Olimar image not the one from the DOJO? Every character's ubiquitous image used for the character selection screen is from their introduction entry. (The large one). However, Olimar's is not, as in his DOJO portrait, he has the red Pikmin in front, and this one has it behind him. Both Olimars are facing right, so it isn't just flipped. It's a fake.

 

[EPX2]

The leak is interesting, but a few things don't feel right.

Firstly, the Zelda + Shiek icon... Why show both? Samus isn't, and Zelda wasn't showing Shiek in Melee. Not only that, but Sheik is IN FRONT of Zelda, making sheik look like the prominent character here. And the whole thing just looks a bit awkward.

Then there's the R.O.B. thing... as Zinc said, he's already a trophy in the coin launcher update. If he was indeed playable, this isn't how you'd get his trophy.

That only leaves NES R.O.B., who has also already been revealed as the ancient minister's escort. Though not entirely out of the question, "there are some that fire beams and others that fire missiles". I hardly think you could make a character of just that. Or if not, it just seems odd...

Finally... the "Tv 1" in the corner. While adding to legitimacy, it also makes it seem more fake in a way. Now, I don't know how things work in Japan, but on my TV is says "TV 1/S video/whatever" for only a few seconds then disappears. In the time it takes for the Wii to boot up, select the game from the menu and then wait for the game to boot, then go to the character select screen it would have disappeared. The only way that display could be showing is if they went through all the menus with the TV off then turned it on (nearly impossible with Wii channels) OR if they got to the select screen, changed the channel/input, then changed it back... why would they do that?

Summed up my thoughts perfectly.

Also, why is the Olimar image not the one from the DOJO? Every character's ubiquitous image used for the character selection screen is from their introduction entry. (The large one). However, Olimar's is not, as in his DOJO portrait, he has the red Pikmin in front, and this one has it behind him. Both Olimars are facing right, so it isn't just flipped. It's a fake.

Ahh, another great point. You've got a very good eye for detail.

 

[DMAJohnson]

ROB64 makes no sense to me. We're getting a character that doesn't even do anything the whole game instead of a more popular playable character from the series like Krystal who would have a unique moveset to work with? An NES Robotic Operating Buddy would be far more believable, even if he has no real moves to work with. I'm calling bull on this roster until we see screenshots of the full character select screen.

 

[imabeast78]

Good speculations. It could very well be. Still that is a pretty nice looking disk cover. So if it's fake whoever did it did a great job and props to them for making it look nice. If someone did have the game I think they would probably be giving out information left and right. Maybe not per say photos. They said something about subspace but it was just the beginning so it was stuff we already knew. Does anyone know if they posted more since last night? Man I hope so. If it is true then well like everyone else is saying it's only a matter of time before the internet explodes due to a free flowing blast of information.

 

[sceptilian]

I think there's something I'm not getting here.

Okay, I may not be up to date, but is there a reason why the ROB64 is being lumped with the guy who supposedly got Brawl? If I remember correctly, these two are quite unrelated - one being from a supposed roster while the other is an early acquiry of Brawl.

 

[Phaazoid]

i too believe this is a fake, the only way I'll believe one is if they show us game art not on the dojo. as he said, all of that could have been photo shopped. plus it happens to fit in perfectly with the gamefaqs roster posted about 12 hours before it. it all adds up to hoax.

and to the post above me, thats because ROB 64 was being used to debunk the 35 character roster in which gamefaqs made which this has characters in the same order as the gamefaqs one.

and that trophy actually looks more like shiek to me

i believe the whole ROB argument is crap also, that could be a number of characters.