I have a feeling Luigi will be completely different

[TheZizz]

The Luigi character, without a doubt my favorite in Melee, a character more than any other whose design is steeped in chaos and inconsistency and plain old nonsense. It's clear that whoever designed him just had a field day. I find that playing him to any effect requires a certain... intuition... that you just don't get with the robotic, calculated likes of Fox, Samus, etc.

It is for this reason that as a seasoned Luigi player I feel I have a certain qualification to speculate with some confidence that his form in Brawl will have no semblance to the ridiculous fighter we know and love.

Now I'm not sure whether to be excited about the prospect as I see one of two things materializing. The first is a dumbed down "conservative" Luigi with a vacuum cleaner move and his typical low voice. The second is a fighter who's crazier than ever, whose moveset once again bends and twists all the rules into a perfectly imperfect pretzel.

Initially, one might lean toward the latter, as Sakurai has proven to be in no short supply of insanity. But one should keep in mind that the Luigi identity, one of a somewhat meek and timid hero was not yet fully realized when he was created in Melee back in 2001 (or even earlier), before Luigi's Mansion was released. With this in mind it makes one wonder whether Sakurai will incorporate this clashing element into what was originally a zany little man that lacked the slightest hint of inhibition. Perhaps he will wish to appease Miyamoto and adhere to Luigi's established persona.

I for one like that persona, but at the same time I simply adore the idea of the Smash Bros. universe Luigi being completely opposite and nonsensical in every way, right down to the uncharacteristically high-pitched voice.

Anyway, my stance on this issue is this. I look forward to a completely different Luigi, as long as the changes are completely inexplicable and lacking of any logic.

 

[Private Zulen]

I hope he gets a gun this time around. That would sure contradict his persona.

 

[bksands77]

i have a newfound respect for luigi, lol i just recently beat luigis mansion, well because when i was younger i got extremely frustrated and gave up on it

i think sakurai will make good decisions on how to place luigi though

lol in luigis mansion if you walk while tapping r it makes him look like hes wavedashing

 

[Oni Andrew]

Maybe not in stats, but Luigi's moves have always looked sort of like Mario's. They need to redesign him, perhaps use Vacuum Luigi from Luigi's Mansion.

 

[OnyxVulpine]

I think he will MOSTLY be around the same feel. With some subtle changes and maybe a new special attack or two.

I never used Mario or Luigi so I can't say how he felt in comaparison etc.

I hope he turns out well for all the Luigi users though.

 

[Fawriel]

As a fellow Luigi lover ( eww ), I think the Green Guy will be an even more extreme version of the one in Smash. Well, or similar at least.

That said, I don't really understand your point.
Luigi has two clashing personalities? How?
The way I see it, he is always a somewhat timid, bumbling hero, whether in Luigi's Mansion or in Melee. It just shows somewhat differently.
The way I see Luigi, he always tries to follow the example of his brother, in whose shadow he stands, but ends up failing to do what he does, yet in some ways, does it even better by accident.
The most obvious example would be the up-b. Mario's is a good recovery move that goes vertically up... Luigi's fails to go vertically. And it can't even be used for attacking.
Except... yeah, you know the rest.

So... yeah. I have faith that Sakurai will do a good job with good old Luigi.

 

[Bassoonist]

I'm hoping that Luigi is almost completely different.

There are so many different places Sakurai could draw a new moveset from. I'm hoping for maybe some electricity, because that was Luigi's specialty in Mario and Luigi: SuperStar Saga, he didn't have a fireball. A Luigi's Mansion moveset would be interesting as well.

We'll see how it goes. Luigi is awesome.

 

[TheZizz]

In a nutshell my rationale for anticipating a complete overhaul, besides the fact that he got one in Melee, is that Luigi has always been a joke character. Joke characters need to stay fresh or else they cease to be such.

With regards to the clashing elements, I meant to point out that in Smash Bros. Luigi is completely oddball and carefree, as opposed to his mellow, self-conscious self in Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, et al.

 

[Fawriel]

With regards to the clashing elements, I meant to point out that in Smash Bros. Luigi is completely oddball and carefree, as opposed to his mellow, self-conscious self in Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, et al.

Hmm. I don't see it like that, though. If he's not mellow and self-conscious, why does he kick the ground as if he's saying "aww shucks, I was just lucky" when he taunts, and why does he squeeze his eyes shut as if he's scared of violence during some of his attacks?

 

[Hong]

xD He'll definately be more bizarre. With every game for the past few years, Luigi becomes weirder and weirder, able to perform abilities beyond the imagination. (Especially in Mario & Luigi titles.)

As trademark, he'll more than definately keep his low traction, superior jumping ability and more recently his awkward approach to things. His Final Smash will probably be something silly, such as getting his rear lit on fire by one of his Fire Balls and running around the battle field dealing high damage to anyone in the way yet doing quite a bit of damage. (Not saying that should be his Final Smash, just the general direction.)

All I can say is Luigi, to sum it up, continue to be a character lacking rhyme and reason, in a good and different way.

 

[PolarisJunkie]

Hmm. I don't see it like that, though. If he's not mellow and self-conscious, why does he kick the ground as if he's saying "aww shucks, I was just lucky" when he taunts, and why does he squeeze his eyes shut as if he's scared of violence during some of his attacks?

Thats really interesting to think that they've given Luigi that much personality. And placed it into the game, I never really looked into that, thats really cool.

 

[Shadowplusle]

i say Luigi should use the polteguist 3000 for his tether recovery or his final smash

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Luigi rocks. I never really was him in Melee, but he was in almost all of my matches. The way he flies about clumsily! You think he's completely useless then BAM! You're hit by that overly powered judo chop move!

 

[ParamoreRiot]

Instead of TEH PH1RE LUIGI CAN USE TEH GREEN L1GHTN1NG!

 

[chaos_Leader]

Luigi may have a little competition in the wtf department this time around with Wario. I know it's not reasonable to compare, but here goes anyway:

Luigi:
Clumsy,
Self conscious,
Cowardly,
Wanna-be,
Unknowingly breaks the rules through sheer clumsiness.
overall, an accident happening in your face.

Wario:
Greedy,
Belligerent,
Selfish,
Doesn't care for rules and breaks them frequently (Explosive flatulence and motorcycles anyone?)
Its Wario's-way or the highway.

The only thing Luigi and Wario have in common, is failure. Luigi fails heroism, and Wario fails Villainy. Two flavors of wtf I think, both potentially equally funny (in my opinion)

 

[JPW]

I see Luigi being totally different too. I See the Vacuum becoming a very important part though. I reckon there is a lot of potential there with thevacuum but then some could argue he's could end up being a clone of Kirby lol.

This is the sort of look I have for Luigi.

One of the ideas I have is Luigi could slide around on the ground like a Vacuum and knock out people in his way.

Or for a final smash he could suck up characters in his vacuum and then shoot them out like Fireballs. Or else he could send up a bunch of ghosts after you. And you get pounded by this invisible force or something.

I hate Luigi and I want him to burn in hell though.

 

[IllidR]

I can really see Luigi turning out to be wielding his vacuum this time around but I'm not so sure that's what I want.. maybe for a few B-moves but i don't want his moveset to be based around it.

 

[WarxePB]

I can see his fsmash and fair becoming lightning-based, but I want him to keep the Green Missile side B. That move is his Smash trademark.

 

[Bassoonist]

Gosh, I hate to be a min-mod or so, but why are people posting in this topic and not the official Luigi topic I made? I made it for a reason, you know? It's rather funny that this topic was also bumped up, I'm pretty sure that this topic was bumped up from several more pages back then where mine is.

 

[Shadowplusle]

Luigi should keep the missile move, sure i wasnt any good at it, but it was so cool!!!

 

[~N9NE~]

I also have a feeling Luigi will be completely different.

No wait...I just need to go toilet.

 

[Shadowplusle]

I also have a feeling Luigi will be completely different.

No wait...I just need to go toilet.

Nice.... dont strain yourself.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Well, i also hope he'll get his normal, low voice. He's so high pitched in SSB and melee it gets annoying.

 

[Chaudgobay]

i prefer the ssbm luigi, don't think he needs that vacuum in brawl, the vacuum luigi sounds me just an afraid guy...the actuall luigi is really better

 

[Shadowplusle]

maybe the vaccuum will only be for the final smash.

 

[Amaggad]

Luigi is great, i use him most of the time i dont mind if he gets new moves as long as he keeps his side B and the chop

 

[Shadowplusle]

i had alot of trouble using him, i hope they improve his up B move. it had no range when you were to far down the stage to use the missile move

 

[BokutoGuy]

i used luigi once in awhile and he is like a clone to mario which disapointed me so i hope hes diffrent

 

[BokutoGuy]

i wanna see what people think for a final smash

 

[smashbot226]

He could have a transformation into...

MR. L!!! OMG!!!

Yep... everybody's thinking it, I'm just saying it.

 

[SonicMario]

He could have a transformation into...

MR. L!!! OMG!!!

Yep... everybody's thinking it, I'm just saying it.

That isn't possible. wait a sec...

*checks my "Everything you need to know to be a Mario geek* book*

Oh wait it still isn't possible.

 

[Noshiee]

Luigi's powers that mario doesnt have
-Lightning power from that Mario & Luigi RPG game
-Poltergust 2000 (Vacuum)
-Psychic Powers from Mario Strikers Charged
-Super Jump from Super Paper Mario
-Has higher jumping abilities
-He had Yoshi's second jump, but he game it to Yoshi later on (Duh!)
-He slides more when changing direction when he's running.
-He's taller

 

[Fawriel]

-Psychic Powers from Mario Strikers Charged

Psychic powers?
Tell me everything.

 

[GenG]

I never liked the Vacuum idea. It was for ghosts, remember? Is like the FLUDD, a gear from a single game, or Link becoming a wolf. Luigi should stay as the usual Mario clone, as ever. That's him, it's like Fawriel described him, trying to imitate Mario's graceful moves but with his particular touch of fear to violence.

 

[Chains]

I would like a new moveset for the underestimated green guy.

 

[Darkurai]

WHY does he have to be obsessed with that Vacuum!?
It was in ONE game, now it completely consumes his life!

 

[CanadianIdiot]

When I play Melee, I have three people I will play as: Link, Yoshi, and Luigi. They're my mean green team. Since Luigi in Melee is a clone of Mario, I would say at first thought that he would use his vaccuum from Luigi's Mansion. But that does seem awkward: Someone fighting with a vaccuum. Instead, I would give Professor E. Gad the vaccuum.

For Luigi in Brawl, I say that he will have a completely re-done move set. The only move I think that will be the same as Mario will be to shoot a fire ball. I don't see him using a vaccuum at all.

 

[Jackal478]

Luigi needs to differ from mario when brawl comes around.

As much as I have adapted to luigi's moves. (downB ftw! :D)

I'd love to see him grow some diversity from Mario

 

[Leobenmc]

As a fellow Luigi lover ( eww ), I think the Green Guy will be an even more extreme version of the one in Smash. Well, or similar at least.

That said, I don't really understand your point.
Luigi has two clashing personalities? How?
The way I see it, he is always a somewhat timid, bumbling hero, whether in Luigi's Mansion or in Melee. It just shows somewhat differently.
The way I see Luigi, he always tries to follow the example of his brother, in whose shadow he stands, but ends up failing to do what he does, yet in some ways, does it even better by accident.
The most obvious example would be the up-b. Mario's is a good recovery move that goes vertically up... Luigi's fails to go vertically. And it can't even be used for attacking.
Except... yeah, you know the rest.

So... yeah. I have faith that Sakurai will do a good job with good old Luigi.

Argh, I now feel so torn. The Luigi in Melee represents everything Luigi stands for. He is the brother trying to show his worth, and his similar moveset displays this incredibly well! I was originally going to post that Luigi should be redone, but purely to distinguish himself from Mario (And OH GOD, NO F**KING VACUUM, THE Poltergeist was PURELY FOR GHOSTS, and unless Luigi's level in Subspace Emissary is his Mansion with Boos everywhere, the Vacuum has no place in Brawl). I was going to say that Smash B was a good start.
But now, thinking about what Fawriel says, Luigi is shown PERFECTLY in Melee. And it's a shame that change seems inevitable, I just hope that Luigi shows the same dynamic he does in Partners in Time/Superstar Saga and his moves are more than just Vacuums.

 

[NintendoWarrior]

I personally hope Luigi doesn't change much at all. I use him and Mario both and there is a difference between them. I like Luigi as he is. And boy do I love his judo chop.