How to live with PBC at touneys! Sakurai messed up!

[pikachun00b7]

Personalized Button Configuration. Do you know how much time it'll take from tournament matches! Instead of talking how bad it is. Let us find some solutions:
What we can do:

1. Worst Case: Before tournaments we need to register online our Nickname, and button Config. This might have to be done for the first tournaments. This sucks because tournament directors will have a hell of a lot of work, and what happens if people don't show up?

2. Best way, but we need to be organized: We need to be organized on this one but it'll be very successful. Since the Wiimote, Wiimote+nunchuck have memory you can bring your own names. But for the CC and the GC will be different. Once SSBB is released we must have a thread where people vote their favorite settings. People will post once or will be disqualified. The top x(probiably 3?) for each controller will be the settings. These universal settings will be on everyones Wii. These settings will be given a name.

Example:
The top three settings will be named (well how I want it to be):
1st place "Pnub"(probiably extremely similar/ same as to melee)
2nd place "n00b" ( prob. very close to melee)
3rd place "nub7"( prob. a bit different then melee)

Other peoples' plausible suggestion:

3. Bring a Wiimote with your name. And a GCN controller. Then put your name in. And play with the GCN controller.- wazgood

My comments: Ok. But a bit confusing. It does take too much time in a match(you have to set this to every Wii). And at the end of the tourney the director has to RESET ALL THE NAMES on every Wii.

What are your ideas? Have any suggestions? If it is plausible I will edit it in to this post! Discuss.

 

[Mr.GAW]

Or, you can just come early and input your configuration.

Most people will like the original control scheme, methinks.

(Side note on button configs.):

Fox will be god tier.

 

[Overswarm]

Brawl will be on the Wii.

If they can save the names to the Wii remote, then peopel will just bring their own Wii remote and set it up, or just set it up early.

 

[wazgood]

maybe since the menus and everything are controlled with the wiimote which stores your settings, you select your name and a the controller your gonna use then when the battle starts you just plug in a gc controller and its all set up

 

[JesterBox]

you probably only have to input your name then pick standard scheme, assuming everyone will just use GC controllers at tourneys

 

[pikachun00b7]

or just set it up early.

Some people might want something different. Are you going to set your name on EVERY Wii in the tourney! What if it is a major touney! That sucks!

maybe since the menus and everything are controlled with the wiimote which stores your settings, you select your name and a the controller your gonna use then when the battle starts you just plug in a gc controller and its all set up

Hmm... maybe I might put that in post 1 and reword it.

you probably only have to input your name then pick standard scheme, assuming everyone will just use GC controllers at tourneys

Not everyone will want the standard scheme. And there'll be too much names on the Wii.
So the director will have to clean them.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

I think the problem is being over-exaggerated. First off, why would players have to pre-register their button configurations? Is it cheating to use a different setup at different points in the tournament? Second, do you really think it'll take that long to configure? As a tournament host, I am not particularly worried. Friendly matches and whatnot will be a bigger problem, IMHO.

 

[pikachun00b7]

you probably only have to input your name then pick standard scheme, assuming everyone will just use GC controllers at tourneys

I think the problem is being over-exaggerated. First off, why would players have to pre-register their button configurations? Is it cheating to use a different setup at different points in the tournament? Second, do you really think it'll take that long to configure? As a tournament host, I am not particularly worried. Friendly matches and whatnot will be a bigger problem, IMHO.

How much Wiis will be at a tournament? Each player will have to record his/ I(I wish there was a her) name on the Wii. The amount of time it'll take is #Wii* #People*#mins it takes to config.
At small tourneys this just takes LONG. In medium sised tourneys it'll take VERY LONG. And on Major tourneys it may take so long that well.. bye bye tourney!(Unless the Major tourney is like 2-3 days long then it'll only take a Several hours!)

 

[Solid_Sneak]

If you can save your name to the remote, it will be more efficient than ever before.

If you can't, really, all were doing before each match is:

Enter name

Choose control

Done.

I don't think it'd be a problem...

 

[_Phloat_]

Or, you can just come early and input your configuration.

Most people will like the original control scheme, methinks.

(Side note on button configs.):

Fox will be god tier.

They added delay to the shine it looks to me

Anyways, it will be like on kaillera, people will be able to input their settings in seconds through muscle memory!

 

[Adi]

Hopefully the interface will be streamlined enough that it will just take 30 or so more seconds for each player to put in their button configuration.

 

[pikachun00b7]

If you can save your name to the remote, it will be more efficient than ever before.

If you can't, really, all were doing before each match is:

Enter name

Choose control

Done.

I don't think it'd be a problem...

1. Enter name.

2. Choose control for shield, Taunt, grab, attack jump, ect.(that takes a while)

3. Repeat for every set.

5. Have the director erase hundreds of names after tourney.

6. somebody may easily mes up their config. on muscle memory, so restart the match.

It is a BIG problem.

 

[Mr.GAW]

No, it really isn't. It's a benefit Sakurai has given us if we want to choose it. In tournaments it is typically 1v1. First person enters name and control scheme. ( If that takes you more than 30 seconds, you're a n00b.) You obviously won't be coming to a tourny without knowing the control scheme you're using. We will all be familiar with Wiimotes and GCC's and CC's by the time these 'Major tournaments" are going on, and you'll know where all the buttons are.

If somebody messes up their config, it's their own **** fault. You don't have to have a config other than default anyways, remember, IT'S A BENEFIT.

If the host is a ******* and doesn't want to erase "hundreds of names after every tourny" (ohs noes!) than they can just make everyone use a default control scheme, just like melee. It's not the end of the world.

Buzz is right, this is being made out to be a bigger problem than it really is, pikachun00b.

 

[Doggalina]

1. Enter name.

2. Choose control for shield, Taunt, grab, attack jump, ect.(that takes a while)

3. Repeat for every set.

5. Have the director erase hundreds of names after tourney.

6. somebody may easily mes up their config. on muscle memory, so restart the match.

It is a BIG problem.

Wiimotes aren't very big, ya know. I could carry one in my pocket with my variety of names and configs on it.

 

[Mr.GAW]

That too. I dunno pikachun00b, it seems to me like you were just looking for something to make a topic about, 'cause this really isn't even a small problem, IMO.

 

[Wiseguy]

See this? This me playing "My Heart Bleeds For You" on the world's smallest violin.

Seriously man, it's not that big of a deal.

 

[JesterBox]

there will definatly be preset control schemes. You won't have to input every little button.

 

[-sonny-]

It's kind of a ridiculous statement to say that Sakurai messed up.

It's not like you ABSOLUTELY HAVE to play with your preferred configuration. I mean, everyone's being playing Smash with the same controls for years now! If you really insist on having your own controls, then just come in early, problem solved.

It's really NOT that complicated at all, lol.

 

[Justin Wiles]

1. Enter name.

2. Choose control for shield, Taunt, grab, attack jump, ect.(that takes a while)

It is a BIG problem.

You must have seen an update the rest of us didn't...

 

[Tonyman]

How about you bring your wii and play online int he same building or w/e XD, that way u only use ur wii and every1 else uses theirs , now serious i think they might mean like in other games like Time Splitters 2 and 3 where u can choose between many different button configs, but that owuldnt make them very personalized :S

PS: i forgot to say this, it must have a default config if u do not use names, cause many ppl dont, so maybe most ppl will get used to it better.

 

[Problem2]

It'd take just 30 seconds to maybe 2 minutes to setup before each match.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

1. Enter name.

This is already done at Melee tournaments. It takes all of 10 seconds (less if well practiced).

2. Choose control for shield, Taunt, grab, attack jump, etc. (that takes a while)

This will only take a long time when players come to tournament grossly unprepared. Provided everyone has been practicing at least a little bit, players will either use the standard control scheme or quickly setup a preferred mode.

3. Repeat for every set.

If problem #2 is resolved as it should be then this should not be a problem. How long does it take you to setup the game rules (4-stock, team attack ON, etc.)? I don't know about you, but for me, it takes about 5 seconds or less because I have memorized the routine. I don't even read what I have selected; I just zoom through the menus pushing down or A at the right times. I suspect it will be the same when it comes to customizing controls.

5. Have the director erase hundreds of names after tourney.

Again, this is already a Melee issue. Maybe where you are at, players typically don't enter their name, but for me, it is routine to periodically clean up the dozens of random names off my memory card.

6. Somebody may easily mess up their config. on muscle memory, so restart the match.

People also mess up the rules and forget to switch to 4-stock instead of 2-minute time match. It happens. I agree that control issues will be an added issue that was not around in Melee, but it still won't extend the amount of wasted time by much.

It is a BIG problem.

I strongly disagree. I'm not saying these things just to spite you. I just honestly cannot perceive smash players with much incompetence. If they cannot quickly navigate menus (the important ones, anyway) then odds are they suck in the game as well.