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How to learn to teach?

JaimeHR

Smash Ace
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Well I got to say that I'm terrible at giving advice but not only talking about smash but on everything in general and whenever someone asks me about how to do something it seems that I can't just find the right words to explain stuff to other people, which is kind of frustrating :dizzy:.

So, I wanna know your thoughts on this matter, how do you learn to teach and pass on your knowledge to others?
 

Skrlx

Smash Champion
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i remember when you taught me how to shdl and pivot
 

rawrimamonster

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I usually give ppl the basics, and I dont mean z cancelling and comboing. Teaching them patience, spacing, the ability to predict. And no thats not like learning to run before learning to walk (for some techtards in 64 it is tho) , these are things that are incremental to being any kind of player in the first place.
 

ciaza

Smash Prodigy
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A picture tells a thousand words, so basically if you can just show them how to do something instead. If someone asks me a question on the server I normally make a game and show them in training mode if I have the time.
 

Lawrencelot

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Watch what the other does, and see how it differs from what you do and point that out. Just ask questions yourself, like why they are doing something; often thinking about these questions will give them the answer right away
 

mr yo

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I usually give ppl the basics, and I dont mean z cancelling and comboing. Teaching them patience, spacing, the ability to predict. And no thats not like learning to run before learning to walk (for some techtards in 64 it is tho) , these are things that are incremental to being any kind of player in the first place.
really?...i usually do the other way...patience ok...but spacing and the ability to predict are advanced thing for newcomers... first just play and learn the REALLY BASICS THINGS that anyone who play just against the cpu could learn in a couple of weeks ore a month...

one he has that show him how to: -z cancel show him first with links dair then with his character and explain why its useful
-shor hop; really easy to show and explain
-teching; also really easy to show
-Directional influence: first show him "the magic" with jiglys drill, then explain the concept...then explain his full uses...and after all that: Di into walls wen coming back

if he uses ness or yoshi show him how to djc.

and then when playing give him the opportunities to try the techs...dont be too agresive....drill him a lot so he practice di, remind him of Z cancel, if he uses ness or yoshi use the same character so he can imitate you

and its very recomendable to tell them not to grab (unless the are jigly or falcon) because these helps them to practice the techs instead of graving all the time

after that is in the user to master the techs...THEN it comes with practice, spacing, good combos, and mindgames
 

rawrimamonster

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really?...i usually do the other way...
Yeah, i believe that people who dont learn basics and fundamentals ofprediction and spacing grow up to be "stupid" players too reliant on technical skill (albeit that sometimes works because of 64's stupid stun times), and never grow mentally in the game. There are smart players in all smash communities who never use any AT and actually do well just based on their ability to predict and outspace people.

A lotta nubs are too eager and go "LOL I WANNA COMBO LIKE I SAW ALL THESE GAIZ DO ON YOOTEWB!" /facepalm
 

NTA

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just keep talking until they think they get it
if they try it and fail
tell them brb knowing you wont brb until some days :D

just practice until u get it JAIME!
 

Smasherx74

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Who cares, Let these new smashers learn on there own while hearing the great story of the legendary smasherx74 who they will never get to play because a smash god of my level has no time for little people like their selfs. Maybe, if I log onto galaxy64 in the future one day, they will become really good from just seeing my name.
 

UnholyWeapon

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Who cares, Let these new smashers learn on there own while hearing the great story of the legendary smasherx74 who they will never get to play because a smash god of my level has no time for little people like their selfs. Maybe, if I log onto galaxy64 in the future one day, they will become really good from just seeing my name.
No sir, that would utterly depress them.
 

INSANE CARZY GUY

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him I may take some of this advice for teaching my little brother how likes to play but easily gets mad about losing and I suck at sandbagging the closest I can to sandbagging is to pick ness or pick falcon and use only B moves however i'll still falcon punch as carefully as I can.
 

Smasherx74

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Who cares how good of a smash64 teacher any of u newF's had. Everyone knows, Quickman! and Stoned iXi were the best teachers ever. "Press Shield when doing a air attack to cancel it", "Tap the C button to short hop" Thats all i needed and all anyone needs.
 

Battlecow

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I remember a guy called deadpool who taught me because I called him "Wadey" when I joined his game. That was waaaaaaay back in maybe the summer aught-7. maybe aught-8. Then Sin taught me more stuff.
 

hamburglar

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Nintendude taught me a lot just by humiliating me repeatedly. It actually helped a bunch because i realized i'm not nearly as good as i thought.
 

ballin4life

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I wouldn't put it that way. Rather he's probably way better than you thought.

Also you did all right against him in the videos I saw. When I played SuperBoom I got 4 or 5 stocked like every match lol
 

NovaSmash

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i remember back when nbk was still around shablivion taught me most the stuff i know, then later MATTS! showed me mindgames.
 

NystraK.

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Usually, if I can get in physical contact with the person I would try to have a one on one conversation with them. Trying not to be to formal or commanding, I explain to them whatever that needs to be told, never tell more than is needed, for this can cause "information overload". Then I ask the person if they want to try an example, if they say yes I guide them through step by step on what to do. I also tell them that they might want to jot down some notes. However, if they say no and try the task without help, let them take a shot without any guidance. DO NOT let them try it if the task can be somewhat dangerous or if you're concerned about the person's safety i.e. Roof nailing, snowboarding, etc.

There are some tips you might want to keep in mind when teaching people:

1. Good teaching is about listening, questioning, being responsive, and remembering that each person and task is different.

2. Good teaching is also about style. Should good teaching be entertaining? Most definetly! Does this mean that it lacks in substance? Certainly not!

3. Good teaching is about humor. It's about being self-deprecating and not taking yourself too seriously.

4. Finally, good teaching is about having fun, experiencing pleasure and intrinsic rewards.

I hope I have helped you, or others in some way
 
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