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how much of a budget does this game have?

Hydde

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Thats certain,
Smash bros title is a guaranteed money cow.

Also, the 3ds version was made because thats the version they will profit for real, since the wiiu is like on extintion
 
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Thats certain,
Smash bros title is a guaranteed money cow.

Also, the 3ds version was made because thats the version they will profit for real, since the wiiu is like on extintion
I don't think they're going to jump ship on the Wii U, especially now that Mario Kart 8 is out (which happened to boost the sales of the Wii U by about 600%).
 

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Mario Kart isn't a failure, but it certaintly isn't selling as much as it should, nor helping Wii U that much. Baby steps, though. Wii U will continue to sell better. Mario Kart has long legs as does Smash.

When it comes to the big hits, Nintendo doesn't back down from pouring money into it. They have a little more respect for their own reputation to keep than the other companies.
 
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Yeh, because Nintendo is swimming on dollars because they are at the top of the gaming industry right?
I don't know what planet you live on but if you did any research at all you'd know that Nintendo could essentially sit on their asses for the next 20 years, release zero games or consoles, and just stagnate the whole period and they would still have way too much money.

Nintendo can afford to experiment and innovate, which is why the 3DS (now the highest selling console of the generation current and last) exists, and certainly why the Wii U does.

There's really something to appreciate about a game company that doesn't actually, technically need any more money, because you can trust that the effort in to their games requires a different kind of passion than the 8th CoD or the 50th Madden.
 

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Typically, Nintendo games don't usually have extraordinary budgets (which is why they are able to easily make a profit). Smash is probably an exception though. This is completely a guess but to me it seems that this game has a lesser budget than that of Brawl's. Still, when calculating budgets the marketing budget should also be considered and not just the development budget. This Smash defiantly seems to have the biggest marketing budget
 

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I don't know what planet you live on but if you did any research at all you'd know that Nintendo could essentially sit on their ***** for the next 20 years, release zero games or consoles, and just stagnate the whole period and they would still have way too much money.

Nintendo can afford to experiment and innovate, which is why the 3DS (now the highest selling console of the generation current and last) exists, and certainly why the Wii U does.

There's really something to appreciate about a game company that doesn't actually, technically need any more money, because you can trust that the effort in to their games requires a different kind of passion than the 8th CoD or the 50th Madden.
Keep in mind that most of Microsoft and Sony's money come from other products that aren't gaming. Washer machines, computers, TV's, etc.

MicroSony still makes money off of other stuff. Keep in mind that even though what you say is true, Nintendo is also in the game! (no pun). Nintendo also banks on their official merchandise based off of their many, many IP's. It is a nice source of income and just another way for Nintendo to stay rollin' even when times get tough.

Nintendo may not be 1st place in the competition right now, but they are still #1 :)
 

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I'm pretty sure GTA takes the cake on that
 

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Nintendo needs to learn one thing. They can't ****ing release a console with no first party games and expect it to sell well. Every nintendo console should be released with at least four of the following:

A Mario game on launch day
A Mario kart or party game within 3 months
A Zelda game within 6 months
A Smash game within a year
A DK game on launch day
A pokemon game within 3 months

If they just waited for there to be decent software to launch with, the wii U would be much better.

Also, as matt patt pointed out a while ago, the anti-youtube sentiment of nintendo has drastically hurt it's performance.
 

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Nintendo ****ed up with the Wii U. I don't think it's excusable, but they better make this the best game ever if they want the Wii U to survive.
The Wii U is going to survive because Nintendo has the money to let it keep going. Smash is important but what the Wii U really needs is a 2015 release lineup comparable to the 3DS's 2013 lineup. Even if Smash 4 is like Brawl competitively(it would take multiple screw-ups in different areas for even that to happen) it'll still sell pretty well and make money. If Smash 4 is amazing both competitively and casually but Nintendo continues to have massive game droughts for the Wii U a lot of people will shy away from it anyways. Smash will boost sales regardless, but any sort of sustained improvement in Wii U sales depends on what Nintendo does to follow up in 2015. The fact that they don't have any noteworthy releases until late September in the West has kept MK8 from doing more to drive system sales.
 
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The Wii U is going to survive because Nintendo has the money to let it keep going. Smash is important but what the Wii U really needs is a 2015 release lineup comparable to the 3DS's 2013 lineup. Even if Smash 4 is like Brawl competitively(it would take multiple screw-ups in different areas for even that to happen) it'll still sell pretty well and make money. If Smash 4 is amazing both competitively and casually but Nintendo continues to have massive game droughts for the Wii U a lot of people will shy away from it anyways. Smash will boost sales regardless, but any sort of sustained improvement in Wii U sales depends on what Nintendo does to follow up in 2015. The fact that they don't have any noteworthy releases until late September in the West has kept MK8 from doing more to drive system sales.
Sounds positive, but unfortunately the system is doomed to fail because.

1. Terrible Marketing

2. Consumers are unable to tell the difference between a Wii and a Wii U because they are incredibly similar to one another, so the system is suffering from an identity crisis (which is weird because the Wii did as well. The game cube and backwards comparability made it double as a GC, which is also funny that Nintendo resorted to releasing the GameCube controller adaptor ports; resorting to the thing that screwed up the Wii to save the Wii U)

3. Making a system with technology an entire generation behind on (which does not save consumers money considering the price of the systems peripheral devices)

4. Making a system with an interface that only Nintendo would be able to fully take advantage of; subsequently discouraging 3rd party support.

These same issues were a repeat of the Wii's life cycle, and without the "innovative boom" of new customers that the Wii had at launch the system lacks the original flair it had. You know it sounds bad when a system has to "survive".

History tends to repeat itself.
 
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You know it sounds bad when a system has to "survive".
Um, sorry, but right now the XBox One needs to "survive" more than the Wii U does. It's presently selling even worse. Also, the Wii U does have a very large lineup of games coming very soon, as shown at E3.

As for the Wii U and the Wii being "too similar", one could argue the same about the XBox and the XBox 360. There's no particular outward difference in appearance from the perspective of someone outside the gaming community, the only visible upgrade is awesome new graphics. Likewise, "360" could easily just sound like a peripheral. The same can be said about the Wii and Wii U, except the Wii U also has a snazzy new controller. Other than that, the only upgrade is graphics. And of course, for some reason people seem to think it's a peripheral for the Wii. (Primarily lack of advertising, also that there isn't a number in its name. They didn't call it the Wii 2 or anything like that.) And so far, despite the lack of power compared to the XBox One and PS4, it has some of the best-looking games around.
 

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Nintendo needs to learn one thing. They can't ****ing release a console with no first party games and expect it to sell well. Every nintendo console should be released with at least four of the following:

A Mario game on launch day
A Mario kart or party game within 3 months
A Zelda game within 6 months
A Smash game within a year
A DK game on launch day
A pokemon game within 3 months

If they just waited for there to be decent software to launch with, the wii U would be much better.

Also, as matt patt pointed out a while ago, the anti-youtube sentiment of nintendo has drastically hurt it's performance.
Pretty much this whole post. When the 3DS came out I got Nintendogs and then didn't play it for several months because nothing that note worthy was coming out. And then things started coming out (out of nowhere, seemingly, the 3DS does have a good handful of games for it) and the price dropped. Which really pissed me off because I just shelled out 300 dollars for that system. But because Nintendo was generous, I got the Ambassador Program thing which was actually really cool. The WiiU suffered from a lack of notable launch games too. It didn't really have that Wii Sports-esque sort of sequel where you could just pick up and play this free little game with your friends. Wii Sports definitely got people talking. I also really like the GamePad but it is antagonistically isolating in a way compared to Nintendo's whole "everyone play games together" ideal they are currently pursuing (which is why they didn't want to experiment with Oculus Rift, sort of). It just is a little jarring that one person gets this fancy controller and everyone else gets standard stuff. I have a WiiU, and the GamePad is really nice, and super convenient for when someone else wants to use the TV and has other uses, but I feel like it wasn't marketed well at all.

It's one thing to come out with a new system, but if you don't have any good games to follow it you kind of screw yourself over. That's like saying "I graduated from culinary school! Come to my place at 7:00 PM tonight for a feast!" and then not making the food till like three days after the party
 

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As much as Sakurai wants. Nintendo kinda needs this game to be the best it can be.
 

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/sigh/ don't feed the troll, guys.

As for the topic, I imagine with hundreds of people working on this game it's gonna be huge. Nothing groundbreaking budget-wise, but still big.
 

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In regards to "iS nInTeDo dOoMmed???" - Nintendo as a company is in a much better position than Sony. PS4 is SELLING well, but pretty much none of the other products are and they are in serious debt. The PS4 would probably have to do as well as the Wii to get Sony out of their jam. Not to mention they are completely giving up on the Vita, while Nintendo is at least improving the Wii U and as a result, improving it's sales.
And while Sony has some interesting games announced, most of their exclusives are either timed, indie, or coming in 2015. In reality, PS4 has A LOT less games right now than the Wii U does. I own both, so I should know. I've got hardly any PS4 games, but I have about 10 full price Wii U games since it launched, and have more I still want, not including the future releases. That's actually probably the highest rate of retail game purchases I've ever made for a system, actually!

And while Microsoft as a company is above Nintendo, Xbox One is doing terribly, and again, hardly has any games. Much like Sony, a lot of what they announced at E3 and Gamescom was a timed exclusive, an indie title, or coming in 2015.

And I don't want to be that guy, but a lot of the games Xbox and Playstation showed off at E3 were really hard to distinguish from each other, a lot of them looked like gritty shooters.
 

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In regards to "iS nInTeDo dOoMmed???" - Nintendo as a company is in a much better position than Sony. PS4 is SELLING well, but pretty much none of the other products are and they are in serious debt. The PS4 would probably have to do as well as the Wii to get Sony out of their jam. Not to mention they are completely giving up on the Vita, while Nintendo is at least improving the Wii U and as a result, improving it's sales.
And while Sony has some interesting games announced, most of their exclusives are either timed, indie, or coming in 2015. In reality, PS4 has A LOT less games right now than the Wii U does. I own both, so I should know. I've got hardly any PS4 games, but I have about 10 full price Wii U games since it launched, and have more I still want, not including the future releases. That's actually probably the highest rate of retail game purchases I've ever made for a system, actually!

And while Microsoft as a company is above Nintendo, Xbox One is doing terribly, and again, hardly has any games. Much like Sony, a lot of what they announced at E3 and Gamescom was a timed exclusive, an indie title, or coming in 2015.

And I don't want to be that guy, but a lot of the games Xbox and Playstation showed off at E3 were really hard to distinguish from each other, a lot of them looked like gritty shooters.
I don't think Nintendo is doomed either. I agree as a whole the company is doing better than some others. But they need every amazing game they can make. I'm sure this is going to be great but the fact that Nintendo is reaching out to the competitive community, taking notes, etc., shows they really want to make this one of, if not the best smash there is. Good games sell systems. Great games sell even more.
 
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