How EXACTLY do you edgehog

[Cole Nosnibor]

Ok so i know the concept of edgehogging but not exactly how to do it. Do you just fall of the ledge and once you get a certain space away from the edge you just jump? IF YOU CAN PUT A LINK OF A YOUTUBE VIDEO THATD BE GREAT!

 

[Wenbobular]

Most of the time I just shorthop backwards and fastfall onto the ledge. All about the timing.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Most of the time I just shorthop backwards and fastfall onto the ledge. All about the timing.

lol same, sh backwards ftw.

Dash-pivot edgehog is my personal favorite, Im trying to intergrate it into my playstyle more.

Im also trying to perfect dash-pivot-showmeyamoves-edgehog.

Too lazy to post a video. Edgehogging is all about the timing, you want to retain your invincibility frames while the opponent is using his UP-B so that you don't get hit by it and have mario take your jew coins.

 

[House]

dash-pivot-downb to edgehog with samus is epic win.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

IT's A TRAP!

 

[Skrlx]

lol same, sh backwards ftw.

Dash-pivot edgehog is my personal favorite, Im trying to intergrate it into my playstyle more.

Im also trying to perfect dash-pivot-showmeyamoves-edgehog.

Too lazy to post a video. Edgehogging is all about the timing, you want to retain your invincibility frames while the opponent is using his UP-B so that you don't get hit by it and have mario take your jew coins.

lol i can do the show me ya moves edgehog numerous times..
but it's actually dash-pivot-showmeyamoves-fastfall-edgehog and then you can follow it up with aerials or a falcon punch etc it's pretty cool lol

It's kinda hard to master since you have to memorize his pivot range and other things.. if fox's taunt was able to be ledge cancelled(well it is but i mean you can hear "heh") that would be sweet because it's pretty easy to dash pivot edgehog with fox.

But Getting edgehogged like that is worse than getting 5 stocked.
And what is even worse is getting 5 stocked and your opponent landing a couple of those edgehog kills in between those 5 stocks lol

 

[SpongeBathBill]

I shorthop backwards onto the ledge myself. Even in Melee, where you can wavedash back, and Brawl, where you can just walk off >.>

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Uh-oh.

 

[asianaussie]

dash-pivot-downb to edgehog for samus is epic win.

That works sometimes with Fox too for an edgeguard edgehog, except it's way easier. I usually just try the dash pivot hog with Fox.

But yeah, generally just pivot sh fastfall. You don't need a specific video, many matches have edgehogs in them.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Everyone's stating fancy ways to edgeguard, but I think the question is what exactly makes you edgeguard.

Basically, you have to face the ledge, and be falling past it. As you drop past it, you grab the ledge. You then just hang there as the opponent tries to recover (don't do anything). When the opponent recovers to where he would normally grab the ledge, he'll fall right past it, resulting in death.

During the first few moments of you grabbing the ledge, you get invincibility frames, where you can't get hit by anything. This is where the timing comes into play. If an opponent with a recovering attack (e.g. Mario's up-B) recovers near the ledge, you will get hit if you don't have the invincibility frames. To prevent this, you grab the ledge a bit before he recovers, and you'll get invincibility frames, resulting in him falling to his death.

What everyone posted are some advanced edgeguard techniques, which make edgeguarding that much more effective.

 

[Lawrencelot]

run to the ledge, turn around, jump backwards

 

[Cole Nosnibor]

Well my main character i use is fox but one thing i just have trouble with is me jumping when im not facing the edge. I know my B moves will turn me around but it seems as if im all out of time by then.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

With fox, his shine also turns him around. Press down-B, press the direction you want to face, then let go of B. It does take alot of time and isn't the most practical thing... and holding down B will make you pass the ledge.

Easiest way is turn around before you jump so that you face the ledge as you're falling past it.

Also, when you lazer and pass the ledge, you should be able to double jump to grab it.

 

[Daedatheus]

Well my main character i use is fox but one thing i just have trouble with is me jumping when im not facing the edge. I know my B moves will turn me around but it seems as if im all out of time by then.

Just press the other direction on the joystick. Doesn't take long for your character to turn around.

If you want to do this faster, know that out of your initial dash you can do what's called a "dash pivot." It's a short dash in one direction and a pivot on the spot where that dash ended. Doing this into a shorthop -> fastfall into the ledge is very fast.

Performing it by dashing quickly in one direction then briefly tilting the joystick in the opposite direction. If done correctly, you will have gone the distance of your initial dash but will be facing the other way.

It has many other applications than edgehogging as well.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

SH Backwards.