hippiedude92
Smash Hero
Ike =/= MK in edgeguarding. But some edge guard tid bits are Bair spiking, Reverse upair, bair and fair WoPing, fireball pressure,
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BearJaw
Smash Cadet
Thank you. But what's WoPing? I must sound so stupid asking that.
Pompi
Smash Journeyman
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wow wow wow now never compare ike to mk never agian do it ok? remember mk= broken , i believe we have a discussion on mk you should check it out we have all contributed . master t i meant bearjaw , however i think he already joined the ladder. as i asked on another thread we all agreed a well spaced bair is your best bet for offstage gimping , youre getting a lot better man youre not boss good but youre pretty good
btw wop= wall of pain
btw wop= wall of pain
elheber
Smash Lord
You already have the less rolling down. Jab to FJP won't work so well against very skilled players, so you'll find yourself using a Jab Grab more often.
MK and Ike are different worlds when it comes to their recoveries and how to gimp them. The most you can do against MK is perhaps a short Wall of Pain with your bAir, but really, he can out-reach you and out-jump you. But since he's so lightweight, you should concentrate on KOing him via strong moves instead of by gimping his recovery. Toss some Fireballs and wait near the edge till you can safely hit him again. That's all I have for MK. Ike on the other hand, has a very gimpable recovery. Pretty much all you have to do is hog the ledge at the right time. I love to grab the ledge as my neutral position, then fall or jump to bAir him till he has no more second jump.
EDIT: Wow, 3 posts before I finished this one. Wall of Pain is the wall of Aerials you pumel the opponent with as he tries to recover to the stage. Everytime he approaches the stage, you bounce him back with an aerial... Luigi's best is the bAir.
MK and Ike are different worlds when it comes to their recoveries and how to gimp them. The most you can do against MK is perhaps a short Wall of Pain with your bAir, but really, he can out-reach you and out-jump you. But since he's so lightweight, you should concentrate on KOing him via strong moves instead of by gimping his recovery. Toss some Fireballs and wait near the edge till you can safely hit him again. That's all I have for MK. Ike on the other hand, has a very gimpable recovery. Pretty much all you have to do is hog the ledge at the right time. I love to grab the ledge as my neutral position, then fall or jump to bAir him till he has no more second jump.
EDIT: Wow, 3 posts before I finished this one. Wall of Pain is the wall of Aerials you pumel the opponent with as he tries to recover to the stage. Everytime he approaches the stage, you bounce him back with an aerial... Luigi's best is the bAir.
BearJaw
Smash Cadet
Ah, Wall of Pain, of course, duh. I didn't mean to place Ike & MK in comparison to each other. I just meant stronger as in moves wise. Like how practically every one of Ike's moves is like a smash attack and MK with all of his special moves that continue to deliver damage after the initial damage is given. I am going to take all of your guy's advice & use it against my next opponent. I will provide video evidence when I am through.
CR4SH
Smash Lord
Lol, definetly history's most epic introduction thread.