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Help With Samus Please

gkrackerr

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Aight, so I went to a tourny today, and realised after the first round that I can't play samus for nothing. I have a decent falco, but i just get owned by samus.

So, I come here asking you guys for help in fighting this iron clad hoe.

Thank you very much :)
 

phanna

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When you're not punishing her, or being attacked by her, jump back and forth with SHL at her.

Do not try to pillar Samus. Falco's instinctively attempt this, but you'll just up-b screw attacked constantly. Instead, laser around while she shields, and maybe approach with a grab or spaced nair on her shield, but do not get right on her.

If she throws you up, DI in front of her (get hit by nair rather than a sweet-spot bair)

If she fires a missile at you while you're standing still, don't shine it, she'll jump over and dair you. Instead, dash forward or backward before shining, if that's the move you want to go with.

Back-airs are your best aerial counter against Samus.

If you lose a stock and Samus is at a high percent, just intelligently spam CC dtilt for the kill.

Spam lasers at a recovering Samus, maybe grab the edge and try a back-air edge-guard, but most importantly, do not stand right next to the edge after samus has grabbed on, since she'll just jump up with an aerial. Instead, stand back, and spam SHL + ftilt.

Always punish a laggy Samus with a grab or something she can't crouch-cancel. If she misses an up-b or a grab, don't hit her with a weak attack, or she'll just CC-dsmash you. Instead, grab or smash her.

These are the first ideas that come to mind.
 

gkrackerr

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wow, a very fast response, and one with much knowledge. Thank you very much Phanna. Yeah, i often found msyelf sent flying off the edge because she was facing away from the edge and CC dsmash me off.

I will try to apply these the next time i fight samus.
 

SCOTU

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Phanna's like the most technical samus player in the country, and the best samus in florida (one of the best in the country). If he says it works on samus, then it **** well does. Great info Phanna, you always make awesome/ informative vids.
 

James Sparrow

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Idk if you'll see this phanna, and if you don't i might pm you. Does it work to d-air the shield, hold down and tech when samus up b's? Someone suggested this to me after Crashman threw me for a loop with up b spammage.
 

Hylian

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Idk if you'll see this phanna, and if you don't i might pm you. Does it work to d-air the shield, hold down and tech when samus up b's? Someone suggested this to me after Crashman threw me for a loop with up b spammage.
You can tech the up B yes. But how well can you tech it? It's better to just not put yourself in the situation unless you are confident you will tech it.
 

MrBitter

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You can tech the up B yes. But how well can you tech it? It's better to just not put yourself in the situation unless you are confident you will tech it.
This is good advice. Why bother trying to fall back on a difficult tech when you can just change up your game a bit instead?

Laser pressure is the first thing to remember when playing against a Samus.

Remember that Samus's aerials have a lot of priority for some reason, so when executing your shine combos, use u-tilts instead of shines or u-smashes. (after the initial shine)

D-tilt kills Samus at around 117%.

Most of this is just echoing what Phanna said, but the main points have all been hit.
 

SCOTU

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I'd say just tech it if you have to because you've messed up. just react to it.
 

GamerGuitarist7

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there's a character match-up thing for Samus in the sticky, i may add some of Phanna's info to it, but you can certainly check it out for a few more tips that may not have been covered in this thread. Also Phanna if you see this could you check out the match-up and throw some feedback in? like i said its stickied
 
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