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Help me improve my Falcon

Miggz

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Yeah pretty nice Falcon dude. I watched your match against the Marth of PS. The only thing that came to mind was your repetitive use of dair when you are falling from above or after a full double jump. I'd say mix it up a bit and be a little less predictable in that department. Other then that, yeah good job dude. ^^
 

GamerGuitarist7

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thanks miggz. i'll work on it

and new matches posted against technical space animals. check the youtube page


please more tips!!
 

abit_rusty

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Did a lot of nice things that I was surprised to see (like the grab out of illusion trick vs fox at BF). Overall good, but perhaps it's just a matter of using the right moves at the right times. If you're planking, use uair not nair. Against spacies specifically, if you're trying to edgeguard a long-range up-b recovery, use utilt not dtilt. Greater range for optimal spacing and better knockback trajectory. Or grab if you think they will overshoot the ledge.

Which leads me to another thing. Grabbing is a central part of CF's game, IMHO, it helps you keep control of the match and grabs lead into more tech chasing and potential combos. It's not that you don't grab enough, it's just that there are times where you miss opportunities to continue to keep control through re-grabbing. Try regrabbing after side-b, or after low percent stomps. Try grabbing again after an uthrow around mid60's-late 70's percentages on spacies, and continue with more uthrows, chasing the DI and regrabbing. If they leave your range, it's either to tech/roll to another spot (presenting tech-chasing opportunities) or they DI off stage (presenting edgeguarding opportunities). Basically just try throwing in more grabs->uthrows->regrabs after low-mid percent pop-up's where a knee or fsmash won't hit.

Finally, if you want to speed up your game, be more impulsive when tech chasing. Don't fox trot, stop in place, and wait for the roll. Fox trot one direction, and dash immediately to whichever direction you believe they'll roll and then grab as soon as you get there. There's a greater chance of you re-grabbing them and avoiding the side-step that comes after you delay your tech chase. However, opponents will catch onto this and start spot dodging as soon as they get up from a roll, which you should try to predict and delay your grab or do a laggy attack to punish said spot-dodge.

All I can think off the top of my head, I play vs fox/falco often and to me it seems that you have a handle on spacie-****** tactics. Remember those special killing percent ranges for (but not limited to) :
uthrow->fsmash
uthrow->usmash->knee
uthrow->knee
uthrow->nair->knee

they're too good.
 

GamerGuitarist7

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thanks a lot man. i don't kow if you watched the matches that i just posted but i used alittle bit more of the kind of things you mentioned against spacies.

i reall appreciate the advice and i'll work on adding that into my game and hopefully you can help when i post newed videos.
 

J.TwisT

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Chris! I based my falcon off of your falcon, and there is some things that i noticed, that would improve your game...

-When you U-throw... You Dsmash after most of them. Mix it up, lol like Dtilt > Fsmash just for fun.
-Mindgames: I see some spots where you could've done certain things... ie... wavelanding more often, it could've made some openings to change the outcome of the match.
-When your coming on to the stage from the ledge, I noticed you neutral a lot. which isn't bad, but you could mix it up with a waveland > grab...
-When your coming out of the air, try Uairs or just FF and space a little.

Yea, I know your gonna give me hell cuz your the better falcon, Just giving suggestions.
But at least I can kinda keep up with Joey now.

I need to get some videos up so I can be critiqued a little..
 

GamerGuitarist7

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while i was reading your post joe, i was trying to think of something ****ed up to say back like "why should i listen to you you ****ing noob. go copy me some more and maybe you'll accomplish something in your life."

but you acknoledged it for yourself. You're becoming stronger trainee.

Anyway, thanks for the tips joe. come to my house next time jeff and joey come to tucson and i'll record with you. i had the matches from when i played them up THE NEXT DAY. i'm PROMPT son.
 

J.TwisT

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Yea, lol I'm lazy when we record.
Yea, I beat Jeff a few times today =)
And my falcon is getting much better. It pisses me off I still lose to carlton... But get some more vids up so I can harass you about your ugly falcon more.
 

jetfour

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I think you'll get better when you stop losing to me
lolololol
But seriously, I saw you full jump nairing wtf you need to use uair outside of uair>uair>knee. It's good to knock them down for an instant techchase to grab/stomp/usmash/raptorboost>KNEEEEEE
 

Miggz

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Yeah I watched a few matches against Axe's Falco.

You have a nasty habit of double jumping first almost every time you get knocked off and above the stage. I'd recommend you switch it up a bit dude cause it cost you a few stocks in both matches. I don't think you ever attempted to DI back towards the stage after a down B and air dodge back on the level.

Also keep in mind that you don't have to ALWAYS sweet spot with your Up B every single time. lol You can aim your Up B and try landing on platforms or even in the middle of level as possible. I know Falco's forward smash is scary but Falcon can take a hit. Also, I've seen Scar use his forward B a few times above the stage just to be different.

Its up to you, but I'd say switch up your recovery. Be careful when using your double jump That alone will save you a lot of stocks.

Good job though...very nice Falcon. XD
 
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