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What else can I say? I had a town read on Ranmaru for a while, then he all but disappeared, and I followed Gheb's push on him because I had little else to go for. I had town reads on most players with no sure scumpicks.
Why do you think these things again?
My read on AA being town is stronger than Gova being town. It's basically AA>Gova>JTB in terms of towniness.
You're right. I want his claim on my desk at 8am SHARP.
1) Tunneling inactives.
Changed this to X1 and it will be accurate, though I don't think he actually accused you of that.
What good will that do? He could just use his fake claim.
1.) Citation needed
Seems kinda pointless to be honest. Do you expect ANYONE here to actually have the brains and reconsider what is going on right now? I could look into anybody toDay because almost everybody is scummy and hasn't really been looked into because this whole town was so terrible to tunnel Asdioh on nothing while you left the inactives just cruise through - but when I point it out it immediately makes me the bad guy, of course. You guys are so screwed ... I mean if Ryker didn't offer himself and scum didn't kill indy then you would've already lost. That's how terrible this town is.
I didn't plan on voting him right now. The fact that he's at L-2 alread is stupid.
Way to just give a cop-out answer. Me, for one, because, at the moment, I don't think you're being all that scummy. The amount of inactives is a huge problem but it's not like we can just go around and kill all of them and leave the truly suspicious ones to just keep playing. According to them, it's your tunneling that is making you the bad guy. Who should I have my vote on and why?
Instead of just complaining about it, why don't you do something to fix it?Gheb said:
Who are these "truly" suspicious players in your opinion? Last time I checked your main suspect was Asdioh #1 for the longest time and while you provided reasoning there were no fruitful results. You can#t expect me to give more than cop-out answers when you're being so vague and leave the most important question up in the air.
But at the same time it's OK when "they" are tunneling me? They tunnel me for tunneling. But I tunnel for inactivity. One of these actions has a double standard within them and one doesn't. Guess which one.
Good question - why don't you answer it?
When did this happen? Link me to this please.
I have addressed your points when you brought them up back on D3. Since then the only thing you've added to your reasons why Ran is scummy is going inactive, which isn't indicative of alignment since he quit mafia altogether here and on ms. With his early play I looked at his intentions, and even when he did stuff I didn't agree with I saw pro-town intentions from him. He tried to get conversation started and tried to scumhunt while he was here. I see scum intentions behind your actions, especially when you consider that you supported the EBR lynch up to a certain point and then when that looked set ONLY THEN did you start focusing on inactives. First you set out for an inactive lynch to save EBR, and then to save yourself.- Can you really not see how Asdioh #2 is scum? July? Anybody? July for somebody who busts out ridiculous walls with each case fragmented into its smallest piece you're being awfully lenient on this playerslot considering that you've not even attempted to debunk ANY of the points I presented. My points @Ranmaru slot are MUCH more significant than yours @Gheb. And really, look at this whole situation and tell me again - who is the one that's ACTUALLY tunneling?
And if that doesn't convince you then look at how Asdioh has changed his way COMPLETELY upon getting his new role PM. YesterDay he'd vouch for me being town, agreed with all my points against Ran. And now all of a sudden as he replaces into this playerslot he's suddenly oh-so suspicious of me? Is it really that hard to see where I am coming from or are you all just terrible at this game?
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That was one of my earliest posts.
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I was, because of J's shenanigans before your replacement and honestly having trouble reading you once you did replace in, as well as the fact that my Gheb push did not go through so I had to acquiesce to either your lynch or a Ran lynch.Does anyone remember who exactly was on my wagon when I was lynched? I remember me, X1, Moth, Sang, and then facepalmRR.
July wasn't on there, was she?
Asdioh, Asdioh and Asdoih.
Swiss said he's town
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Asdioh [7]: SangfroidWarrior, Ranmaru, Shadow Moth, X1-12, July, Asdioh, Red RyuDoes anyone remember who exactly was on my wagon when I was lynched? I remember me, X1, Moth, Sang, and then facepalmRR.
July wasn't on there, was she?
1) Posts 912, 977, 1153, 11901.) Citation needed (Tunneling inactives)
2.) Not scummy
3.) Citation needed (Being a hypocrite and trying to say that July and I are being closeminded about him when he's been that exact same thing with Ran's slot.)
4.) Not scummy
5.) ARE YOU KIDDING ME HOLY SHIP. WHEN IN GOGs NAME DID I BUDDY SWISS ARE YOU STUPID HOLY COW
July / Tandora, knowing you two I'm fairly certain that you have not considered the fact that I could be town at all. What would your plans be if I flip town? That's not a rhetorical question and I think it's pretty important to know. It's annoying how July ignores my requests to debunk my arguments on why Ranmaru is scum. How long are you gonna turn a blind eye to how scummy he is? How long are you gonna john for his recent non-input?
5) Post 910, 969, 970, 975Yeah and that's a huge problem.
You're not even taking into account that you could be wrong, plain and simply. In essence that's synonymous to playing with a blindfold trial and error style. Instead of trying to predict hypothetical outcomes [hence me using "if" and not "when] to see where your so-called reads are actually leading to you latch onto something you don't like and place all your hope into it becoming true - and then you turn out to be wrong and you're back at zero because you've spent no thoughts on other possibilities. If you haven't made any yet then I challenge you to do so now because you're probably going to tunnel me for the rest of the game unless you're starting to open your mind now. So tell me, what would your plan be if you actually managed to lynch me and I were to flip town? Please do us this favor - show everybody that you haven't actually thought this whole thing through at all.
