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Hall Of Fame

DAlegendarysamus

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Well for those people who have wonder what D.A has been up to for all these yrs and what not everyone take a look at the link that i am about to give to you its the dawn of a new era people the return of D.A. This link sends you too our site that has our latest content called " HALL OF FAME" IT's a section on our site dedicated to all the smashers that mastered thier characters and repped thier characters to the point that all the knew who they are and called them the best or one of the best with thier character(s) so with out further or due i bring to you the hall of fame: http://smashguardians.com/index.php?...=173&Itemid=28. Note that if anyone has any pictures of any of the players listed on the hall of fame just send DA and emial or emial me at: lewdawes@aol.com hope everyone enjoys peace.
 

N64

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A pika hall of fame that doesn't include Chad, Zig, or me? Nonsense.

Azen was the original pikachu pro, and phillybilly/scissorssir/ron is pretty good and pretty competative with pika in one of the most competative smash scenes around, but chudat has hardly contributed to modern day's competative pikacu.
 

Peach Masta

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It just seemed like you took some of the professionals off of smashwiki and just kind of put it together like that it was still good though good job
 

Zig-Zag!

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The artist in me wants to kill your web and graphic designers.

The writer in me wants to fire your "writer" and edit the crap out of your descriptions, including the ones you just lifted from the smash wiki.

The smasher in me wants to rearrange, add to, and get rid of almost half of the names that you attributed per character.

If you're looking for any comments and constructive criticism, let me advise you guys to clean up the page, organize your content, fix the clashing design, and most importantly, research who is who for all the characters. Azen is one of my all time favorite smashers and one of the cooler guys I've ever met, but he doesnt deserve to just be plugged in whenever you dont know whose good with that character.
 

DAlegendarysamus

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Zig-zag Dont Be Mad

LOOK the list is not final its what i thought was the top with each character and also what others that i have asked online who they thought was the top players. Now all you simply have to do is comment in regard to the hall of fame who u think should be on the list and a description behind it and after that it will be view and if its legit then that person that is mentioned will be put up there plain and simple. You dont have to bash our site like that the site is skin in bones right now its made for the community just like smashboards is made. Now i hope u and everyone else continue along with looking at smashboards come to our site too cause it will have tons more of content and for ppl like u that want it to be more organized it wil be more organized. You try making a site then u can say something until then get pwned in smash. I hope we play b4 brawl comes out so u can feel the rath of WES.

But anyways like i said everyone i dont know 100 percent about all the best with each character just a good amount to put up as content for our site but it would help for everyone to add more info and details about players left out.
 

Scissors Sir

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omg!!

what a cute copy and paste job from the smashwiki

ok i understand it must be filler for the time being, but to direct everyone's attention to it when it's not finished is kinda silly

you could've used the thread space that you did for finding out who is the best/who made X character

just my two cents

and yes zig zag and chad should be there

even though chad doesnt use pika anymore

it's a hall of fame so that doesnt matter







P.S. and N64 too lol


<3 N64
 

DAlegendarysamus

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Haterration

If u know it was a filler then why say that comment lol. And it is smart to let ppl know about it so there is noone left out i am not going to keep going on the boards and post up a list all the time for the threads to put the topic to the last page.
 

Scissors Sir

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late response. i guess using pikachu in vls finals doesnt mean anything
Honestly it doesn't...

Because I could use any character to get me through a tournament and then switch to some random character in the finals. Doesn't mean I contributed to that character.


Hell it doesn't even mean I'm good with that character...

Just means I switched to that character in the finals...

I see where you were going with ur point slikvik but it was a weak example to use...
 

N64

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You're right, getting owned as pikachu in one of his more favorable matchups in one match of finals really did wonders for the rat. My bad.

>_>
 

slikvik

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**** MD/VA. I have no region. no really...
1) he used pikachu more than once in those finals
2) pika is his secondary and hes beaten lots of good people with pika. In the md/va region, he ends up counterpicking it alot. It seems like you dont want to give him credit simply because its not his primary character.
3)It was Azen...
4)N64...so he didnt contribute anything because he lost. good luck making it to the finals of a national scale tournament and beating azen
5) Chu is the only player i see taking out high level players with his pikachu. correct me if I'm mistaken
 

Zig-Zag!

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1) he used pikachu more than once in those finals
2) pika is his secondary and hes beaten lots of good people with pika. In the md/va region, he ends up counterpicking it alot. It seems like you dont want to give him credit simply because its not his primary character.
3)It was Azen...
4)N64...so he didnt contribute anything because he lost. good luck making it to the finals of a national scale tournament and beating azen
5) Chu is the only player i see taking out high level players with his pikachu. correct me if I'm mistaken
I dont think it's an issue of Chu not being good with pika. It's the fact that he isn't known for pikachu, doesn't use primarily pikachu in tournaments, contributes nothing to the pikachu community, and all around has nothing to do with the character....other than his name I guess.

I mean, I use five other characters other than pika, but I'm not exactly knocking down the Yoshi boards for some recognition just because I'm very good with the character.

If Chu used solely pikachu to get to the finals of the national tourny, that's something else altogether. I've been in the top 16 of a national tourny before using solely Pikachu, very narrowly losing to a top 10 player in the midwest.

Chad has taken out Wife in tourny with pika. He got a game off darkrain in tourny too. I've beaten loooots of smashers using 95% pikachu in tourny over the years, including players like Viperboy, Kish Prime, and Dope. I've gotten games off of lots of great smashers too. I frequently place very high in doubles in most every tourny I've entered, usually getting at least top 3, and easily top 10 in the largest midwest tournies.

I once switched to Yoshi in the finals of a tournament in the east coast because I knew I couldn't win. I guess that really made Yoshi look great when I lost.
 

PsychopathicEmus

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hmm...i kinda agree with n64 and philly. as far as i can see, chu dat hasn't really "contributed" much to the competitive pikachu. sorry i can't really explain it, but chu dat's pikachu doesn't feel organic the way chad's, n64's, philly's, and zig's pikachus do: chu dats' pika's like a textbook pikachu (hope that makes sense). don't get me wrong, he's definately got an awesome pikachu and i really enjoy watching it in action, he just doesn't feel like 'hall of fame' material as a pika player.
 

N64

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I don't doubt chudat's skill with pikachu. I've seen it play against competant players, and while i'm not a fan of his style, I can see how well and smart he plays with pika.

I guess I just don't see why he would be in a pika hall of fame while others of us are not. I can get past the "it not being his main" thing, I just don't think he's contributed to Pikachu much. Chu is a really good ICs, and his Young Link is pretty spectacular as well, but his pika just seems fairly new. Would you put him on the Pichu hall of fame as well because he played a competative pichu in tourneys for a while? Or put Azen in the hall of fame for pika, zelda, yoshi, luigi, and almost every other low tier character because he's played them in tourney at some point against top players? Azen is in the hall of fame, yes, but I wouldn't say for that reason.

I can see Azen as being in the hall of fame not because of his current impressive ability with pikachu, but because back in the day he was THE american competative pikachu. There was Azen from the US, pictishfreak from Europe, and AK from japan, and that was about it. For a good time, no one here was known very well for pikachu besides Azen. He showed that pikachu can be played competatively and gave a general idea of where he could be put on the tierlist. Later on, other competative pikachus started popping up. Vidjo had a competative pikachu for a while, I started becoming decently known, Phillybilly started getting really good, then Chad and Zig made names for themselves by taking out some good players in tournaments, Anther starting wowing people with his unique style and decent tournament placedments, then Chu started doing well with pikachu, and AXE has recently showed his potential in Arizona. Chu's pika came fairly late in the game, and personally hasn't convinced me that it's worthy of the hall of fame quite yet. Perhaps eventually, just not yet.

Zig's explanation makes a lot of sense to me. A lot of us have had notable acheivements. Personally, I've beaten Joe Bushman and Plairnkk in pools (granted plairnkk wasn't quite as good then), beaten PC&Milktea and Zoso&Kaiser in teams at Cataclysm3 (with DK teammate Kwan), ***** (aka 2-0'd with one match being a 5stock) Nite&Shiz in teams at FcDiamond, took a match off DoH and beat KishSquared in pools at FCDiamond, and had a lot of other close matches with competative players. I'm sure in a competative environment nowadays Chudat's pika would do better than mine, but I honestly don't see how greatly he's contributed to pikachu as a character while a lot of us were here owning with the rat previous.

Maybe I'm territorial. I just believe there are pikachu players out there like Chad and Zigzag that are more deserving of being in the hall of fame than him, so if he was put in then others should be added as well.
 
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