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You're on to something here! I like this idea... A lot!
Well based on all the characters so far, I think he has the most potential for being top tier
From what we have seen he will certainly not be low tier. High to Top is my guess if I had to commit to something. I mean he has a ranged projectile that seems solid. A counter, a Vanish attack that actually seems usable (unlike Metaknights for the most part), an at least 2 directional triple jump (giving more recovery options), and his normal attacks seem to be long range kicks, or disjointed hitbox water wakizashi. He seems very quick in the air and on the ground. So basically if he has decent KO moves that's all we need! Once it's confirmed he can actually KO at decent percentages, he will be top tier for sure!
No one blames you, I mean he is a ninja
I don't think that's anything like Double Team, the "clones" seem to be attacking and Double Team creates non-physical clones. The other Greninjas shown are just after-images from moving so fast.
yoshi couldnt use his tounge for tethering.
This is a little late; but I am certain Greninja can wall-cling. Greninja is essentially the successor to Squirtle, and Squirtle could wall-cling. Greninja is reminiscent of Sheik, who could also wall-cling. It would be very strange if Greninja couldn't.
Haha, exactly this.
Mewtwo talked during his victory poses in the Japanese version of Melee.
Possibly, although it does seem Greninja is faster than Fox. Greninja's jumps seem to be really high as well. While telling if his falling speed is faster than Fox or not, you can't really tell as the only time you see his falling animation, it's a close up. Another thing I noticed about his falling speed, I think there may be two different levels of it. Right after he uses his UpB to get back on the plane, you can see Greninja goes into his falling animation. When he goes into the animation that time, it seems like he is not going as fast as he is falling later on. Also, right after he used his UpB, his falling animation is not the normal way it looks after you use a special. It's just regular Greninja. Does that mean he can jump after using a special?
I would just say his fall and fallspecial animations are the same. His recovery looks too good to allow continued attacks after using it.
He seems faster than Sheik, and kind of like he hits a bit harder. I don't think his smash attacks are going to be very powerful either and that Shadow Sneak move will be really predictable and can be easily countered if you can't use a high priority attack after using it. The way Sakurai described Shadow sneak, it seems like you just have to hold down the buttons, not charge it up. He seems like he would be good at harassing, but his smash attacks seem to have major downsides if you miss. The animation after he uses his up smash is pretty long. His projectile seems like it does decent damage and like you said, is good fro harassment. The charged shuriken looks like it could be very powerful as a get away move, especially if he is able to move while charging it. That is a pretty long throw, though I'm guessing they don't do that much damage since the grab range is so long.
It is fun to challenge yourself with a character. Rosalina is DEFINITELY the hardest to master though. Greninja may have a bit of a learning curve, due to his fast speed and what seems like unique specials.
If you look at 1:41 in the video, you see that IS his double-jump.
Oops, looks like I'm blind. Although it seemed like he didn't use his double jump at the peak of the first jump. It seemed like Greninja could go a bit higher with his first jump.
His recovery is going to be much better than I originally anticipated...
Maybe. It's hard to tell since we can't see where he started his initial jump. If he's as light as he looks, he'll need a good recovery game.
It is a good recovery and what I said is pretty unlikely. He is only in the falling animation for a half a second, so maybe it was about to go to the fallspecial animation (or whatever you call it).
Hold down the buttons = Charging it up. That's why I compared it to Balrogs turn punches in Street fighter. They work the same way. Shadow sneak won't be predictable, so long as you don't use it predictably. It will be primarily used as a punish or an escape.
Perhaps. His fall animation may look identical to his (what I call) fallspecial (maybe I'll just call it freefall, easier to type
). At 1:50, he falls for nearly a full second, without flashing like other characters in freefall.
How would you charge one special while using another special, seeing as all specials are mapped to the one special button?
