Greninja glitch when returning to stage

[Overswarm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeS_3NeiwhM&feature=youtu.be

Jump towards stage + fair at the right time, low lag landing. I've been able to do this and insta-jab, grab, and roll. Dunno waht causes it exactly. Mii Sword Fighter can do it too.

I will leave it to you guys to reproduce / find uses for it.

 

[Requiem]

That's a pretty great find, ima definitely try some stuff out with this later today!

If only ledgehop wasn't nerfed so badly, it would have been truly great.

 

[Robiin]

This is usually my tactic for getting back onto the stage. Didn't think about it having less landing lag than normal. I do it because everyone just waits by the edge of the stage (at least online) to do d-smashes because they think you will just roll or stand up. Otherwise you can do hydro pump in an arc over them to get back to the middle of the stage (but that is more easily punishable by timing an upsmash and hit you while you are above them).

 

[BigHairyFart]

Isn't that just an autocancel?

 

[Dimpus]

Isn't that just an autocancel?

Maybe, but i wasn't aware that his fair autocanceled.

 

[BigHairyFart]

Maybe, but i wasn't aware that his fair autocanceled.

Most moves that autocancel only cancel for a limited number of frames of the animation. At least, I think that's how autocancels work.

 

[Choice]

Most moves that autocancel only cancel for a limited number of frames of the animation. At least, I think that's how autocancels work.

You're right, there's a window for auto cancelling. Similar to how wolf would auto cancel Fair in brawl. However some windows last until the end of the move, like peach's fair in brawl.