Good Lucas Strategy

[PkStars]

Does anybody have good Lucas strategies that DON'T require the b-stick. The b-stick techniques seem a bit innefective when actually fighting, and the smash attacks are a lot easier with the regular c-stick.

 

[Levitas]

yeah, the nair is pretty good. also nair to tilts.

 

[PkStars]

Yes, air to tilts is a very effective Lucas combo. Is his projectile game as useful as the Mothers Boys thread says it is?

 

[Levitas]

it's a good tool for zoning. even if you don't do much damage, it makes the opponent's life that much more difficult when they want to approach.

 

[PkStars]

Good. What does the B-Stick have to offer Lucas?

 

[ParanoidDrone]

Basically, it lets him jump forward, PK Fire, and return to his original position. Unless they have a projectile of their own or godly spotdoging/airdodging skills, it's unpunishable. It also makes his special-based ATs easier, from what I've seen (especially Thundersliding).

EDIT: Good <insert deity here>, I should be in bed by now. >_<

 

[Trozz]

You don't need to b-stick. Lucas's forward smash is great; keep it on c-stick and you can quickly reflect projectiles or get kills.

I'd advise against using f-air for air approaches. It has a really short damage window (unlike Ness's), so you have to be really good with your timing to land it.

 

[linksys1221]

once you get your target up to around a 100% you can up smash attack them and if u did it right an instant k.o.

 

[TVTMaster]

^^^ Need to laugh. Hard. Lol.

Anyway, minus B-stick, there's no Zap Jump, but still Nair->Ftilt is pretty darn good, and you do want that stick Fsmash. PKF from a dash to punish enemy landing lag, follow up with SH-Nair to Ftilt and then edgeguard with PKT or even Freeze if they have a short airdodge and are coming from above. PKT is usually more reliable, though.

 

[Kazuya]

To be fair you can Zap Jump if you've set specials to the R trigger. Makes it much easier IMO. Keeps your fingers in the same position.

The main one like someone above said is his Up + A attack, it can kill MOST characters at just 90%! If you Meteor it full, 70%. I only recommend Up + A if you KNOW you're going to get a hit orr if you're in a FFA.

 

[Trozz]

^^^ Truth. ^^^

Some people underestimate the massive size of the u-smash hitbox/duration and wind up getting hit by it anyway.

 

[Seanson]

default controls are fine, b sticking is a bit silly cause you can't follow up with anything. zap jumping is easy with just hitting both b and jump with a quick slide of the thumb.

 

[Veng]

I myself find me suffering from B-Sticking an a tourney. I end up using it A. To much or B. Ineffectively and they spot it then get a free grab/smash

 

[Uuby]

I never use c-stick in an actual match before. I prefer Normal Smashing with Control Stick and A Button

 

[Earthbound360]

B-sticking pushes Lucas very far back providing a great defense. It's great for PKF pestering and spacing.

You dont need to B-stick to Zap jump BTW, but I still reccommend it.

There are ways to play Lucas without the B-stick though. His dair is a great approach that I use often. If you use it immediately after doing a full jump, you can double jump and use one again before landing.

 

[Chuey]

I also love using Dair for an approach, , if you hit, it's hard to punish. Zap jumping is easy with R Set to special.

So the advantages of B-Sticking are wavebounce PKF, and RAR Bair which no one has mentioned yet. It takes a lot of practice, but using the B stick to RARBair, can prove a good approch and brilliant spiker.