Good Edgeguard with Ganon

[Devilution]

I think this has been done before but whatever...anyways I was just messing around and I just saw that ledgecancelling video and thought of ledgecancel edgeguarding...
I think it'd work great against Sheik/Samus/The Marios
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2O8pGBQJXlk

 

[O D I N]

Yup. Been there. Done that.

At least you discovered it on your own, rather than looking it up though, right?

 

[KIngGerudo]

try it with dair, makes it look o soo much more cooler and it spikes so yea

 

[Devilution]

I don't know if this is possible..but what if you Ledgecancel a dair and then jump right when its ledgecancelled and do a down b...and then recover... 2 spikes in one.
.

 

[O D I N]

I don't know if this is possible..but what if you Ledgecancel a dair and then jump right when its ledgecancelled and do a down b...and then recover... 2 spikes in one.
.

Sounds risky, and hopefully unnessecary(?). If anything, go for another dair if you need to.

 

[Frozenserpent]

I can't ledge cancel consistently. Is this edgeguard effective enough to warrant practicing ledge cancelling with ganon (curse his poor aerial horizontal mobility)?

 

[O D I N]

I can't ledge cancel consistently. Is this edgeguard effective enough to warrant practicing ledge cancelling with ganon (curse his poor aerial horizontal mobility)?

Doesn't hurt to have it up your sleeve.

 

[chaddd]

Down air is better.

EDIT: Not just edge canceled, in general.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

*Blinks and swallows hard* Eh, chaddd is preparing something, thats abit scary.

 

[Devilution]

Down air is better.

EDIT: Not just edge canceled, in general.

Eh, I love the stomp but against a Samus or Sheik I'll go with reverse uair.

 

[KIngGerudo]

Down air is better.

EDIT: Not just edge canceled, in general.

chaddd has spoken for the ganon community

 

[chaddd]

Eh, I love the stomp but against a Samus or Sheik I'll go with reverse uair.

That's cool I just follow them off the stage with an aerial. That way you win faster.

Besides, edge guarding is definitely a last resort sort of thing. Not to say it doesn't happen a lot, but preventing the need for it is much better in my opinion. You should only have to edge guard if you messed up your combo.

And since this game is so odd, let me explain how I look at it:

COMBO SYSTEM FOR SMASH MELEE:

1. HIT STUFF.
2. FOLLOW STUFF INTO THE PLACE YOU KNOW IT WILL GO.
3. IF STUFF DOES NOT GO INTO THE PLACE YOU THOUGHT, FOLLOW IT NONETHELESS.
4. TRY TO MAKE SAID STUFF GO WHERE YOU WANT IT TO GO TO AID WITH THE FOLLOWING OF SAID STUFF(BETTER KNOWN AS MIND GAMES).
5. ATTEMPT TO CONTINUE HITTING STUFF CONSECUTIVELY.

If you do these 5 things, you'll never lose.

Also, it has come to my attention that many people believe Ganondorf has no combos. Ganon has the nastiest combos in the entire game, mostly due to the fact that two tech chases equals a free stock from 0 percent, so...

-clears throat-

I'm working on the new Facial Impact combo video. I'll be spending hours upon hours 0-deathing people on tape to bring you the most horrible display of **** combos you've ever seen. Ever.

That is all.

 

[mathos]

I don't know if this is possible..but what if you Ledgecancel a dair and then jump right when its ledgecancelled and do a down b...and then recover... 2 spikes in one.

Is that even possible? I thought you can't recover from a DownB from the stage like that.

 

[ArcNatural]

Is that even possible? I thought you can't recover from a DownB from the stage like that.

You can if you jump (he says ledgecancel jump then downB). I even think you can recover from a sh downB off the edge.

 

[O D I N]

I'm working on the new Facial Impact combo video. I'll be spending hours upon hours 0-deathing people on tape to bring you the most horrible display of combos you've ever seen. Ever.

That is all.

Advice taken, and looking forward to new combo goodness. ^ ^

You can if you jump (he says ledgecancel jump then downB). I even think you can recover from a sh downB off the edge.

True; but you have to jump perfectly out of the down+b animation, or you'll mess it up.

 

[Devilution]

I'll try to get it capped like right now.


Edit--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdlC7xGs8OA

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Double reverse uair is the sexiest edgeguard known to man.

But yeah I've done this many times on accident while going for a normal reverse uair. Whenever it happens, I play it off like I did it on purpose

 

[Magus420]

I'll try to get it capped like right now.


Edit--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdlC7xGs8OA

I do this except while facing away from the stage and the d-air pops them up, where I then fulljump/fulljump + DJ to down-b spike. I've gotten it with the edgecancel, but it's usually unintentional and just happens due to momentum from the jump while techchasing. When it edgecancels & you don't hold a direction afterwards while facing that way it cancels the lag but you stay onstage in the teeter animation and you can jump normally as well as DJ after.

As long as you catch them with an un-DI'ed stomp (is often the case then) very close to the edge, and they don't know exactly what you're going for after the stomp and try to smash DI and/or DI directly horizontal/slightly down like people named Ryoko do who play me too much, they will always go slightly away and past the edge.

Normal people will DI up&towards though and will get sent a good amt away and down. Even if they DI it towards & slightly down they still go very slightly outward but their ASDI/SDI will often let them clip the edge unless they're hit high up or weren't quite stomped at the very edge.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

for some reason my youtube isn't opening the link

anyways, one of the best ganon edgeguards is the "platform canceled" back air or up air edgehog

if they miss their sweetspot they get hit, if they get their sweestpot they get edgehogged (if you do it right, and depending on the recovery)


i do that with bowser, nothing better than a back air from bowser that instantly edgehogs LOL

there we go, vid worked, i figured it was basically exactly what i said haha

yeah thats a good edgeguard i loves it