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Justin and Rudo from Grandia 1 & 2, respectively. Amusingly, the latter had at least one voice actor that's been on the Metal Gear series (Cam Clarke).
Grandia’s coming back? Neat.Waluigi will definitely get in someday. Sakurai is starting to pool from the Mario series, as far as joke characters go.
Justin and Rudo from Grandia 1 & 2, respectively. Amusingly, the latter had at least one voice actor that's been on the Metal Gear series (Cam Clarke).
I don’t know, I think it would be exactly like Ridley. I think the Smash community at the very least has got our back and now acknowledges us as one of, if not the biggest fanbase. In a hypothetical new ballot, I find it likely that we’d win or at least get that silver. We’re slowly but surely starting to make ourselves heard, and after that there’s no excuse that can keep us down.
Didn’t sakurai straight up say Ridley could not get into smash because of the scaling issues? I understand that we are a more niche fanbase, but I think we have made our voice heard and sakurai wouldn’t turn Isaac or a golden sun rep down forever. Also what if the next smash bros gets a new director? For all we know this is sakurais last smash bros.
Yeah, I quite honestly believe that if Isaac doesn't get added to Ultimate through DLC, he's an essential lock for the next Smash. The fanbase has been too loud this time around to ignore him. Isaac is far and away the most requested Nintendo newcomer, and might be the most requested newcomer overall, though that's probably Banjo right now.
Yup. In the meantime, we should also talk to others about Isaac and how his inclusion would benefit the roster (geomancer, earthbender, summoner, psynergy, etc.) despite his AT status and why we want him while also talk about the Golden Sun games.
context? lol
The Killer Wail KO'd Cloud, who summoned Isaac, yet Isaac was able to recover and return to the stage.
This definitely bodes well for Isaac being added eventually. Bringing back the Isaac AT is one thing, but upgrading it substantially beyond the necessary graphical overhaul (Brawl was quite a while ago) suggests he got some serious developer attention. Maybe that means he just barely missed the cut, or maybe he was never truly in the running but he did well enough on the ballot that they wanted to give him special treatment. Regardless, I would consider that to be a very good omen for his future potential, especially as his fan demand has seemingly only grown stronger.
Eh, Banjo is more likely than Isaac, but I have a feeling both are happening.
Honestly, you guys have the better chance
I heard about the whole N64 Mini being shot down and Banjo (and you guys, the fans) immediately came to mind about that. Don't give up hope you guys! I still believe Banjo has a chance! For all we know, the Minecraft content could most likely be Mii Costumes when Banjo is added via DLC. I'm surprised almost no one talks about that possibility.
Ok, fine, that was just me reeling things back in. Isaac is from a first-party franchise and there's a decent amount of evidence that GS might be getting a new game in development, and Isaac's AT could be a starting off point for a DLC fighter as well.
Isaac and Banjo are the big 2, Geno is more questionable. People keep citing Geno, and Geno does date back to Brawl as well, which is why they're lumped together, but in the exit consolidation polls, Geno is way lower, below several other characters. Not that his placement is particularly bad or anything.
My big sticking point here is how shady Nintendo is acting about the DLC.
It would be criminal if Nintendo DIDN'T make the N64 Mini. Heck, at this point, they're probably saving the release of it for next year. Didn't Phil Spencer say "Yes" that he did meet with Sakurai and/or Nintendo at E3 this year?
Honestly Ridley shows that there really isn't anything that can permanently disconfirm a character. Too much can happen between Smash games. Sakurai's views could change, or someone else might direct the next game. And besides, if Sakurai says "Isaac has no moveset potential," or some other lame excuse like the ones you mentioned, is that gonna change what anyone here thinks? Are people really gonna quit Isaac because of some dumb PR excuse? Nope. A few might, but you have to remember that Isaac's support base has been crushed repeatedly throughout the years, and remains about as strong as it ever was today. You say we're hardcore, and yeah, we're hardcore. Many in this thread and elsewhere have stood with him through the years not because he's some fad or bandwagon, but because the Golden Sun series had some kind of impact on people and they don't want it to die. I also encourage you to look back at what people in the Rate Their Chances thread were saying about Isaac when he was first rated. Some cautious optimism, but a lot of people saying things like "his ship has sailed" and "dead series are dead." A lot more people believe he can happen now compared to then.
I also wouldn't rule out the recent trademark for B&K not too long ago.
If we get a new Golden Sun game at some point, whether it be remasters/remakes of the first two games, a completely new game altogether (GS4, a prequel, maybe a game that takes place between TLA and DD, etc), then that could certainly boost Isaac's chances quite a bit for a future Smash game...or for Smash Ultimate DLC...
Yes, nothing really new popped up in it. Sakurai touched briefly on Incineroar, Ken, and Piranha Plant. He didn't address AT's or the Season Pass at all. Basically nothing knew was in it except:
Actually, I wouldn't be so sure if either of those are vitual locks. Remember that it'll be at least a few years from now when the next Smash game is made; we don't yet know if ARMS will get a sequel and Xenoblade is likely to move on to another protagonist aside from Rex. Even if ARMS does get a sequel, it might not be as good as the first, and if Golden Sun gets revived then maybe Nintendo would want to push a different JRPG other than Xenoblade or FE...
Speaking of which, back in page 255 (I think) we did try to figure out if the Rathalos pic was just a in game screenshot or not. I took the liberty to replicate it in Smash 4 using Charizard as Rathalos. But, no matter what I did, I could not replicate it.
In your more recent Smash Ultimate Reddit Poll/Tourney...
It was a tourney elimination style vote. Isaac just ended up having to fight more battles to get to the final but Banjo & Kazooie won the final vote.
