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Pacific West Genesis 3 - January 15-17: $59,780 Prize Pool!

Genesis 3 - January 15-17: $59,780 Prize Pool!
Posted by AlphaZealot
San Jose Convention Center
Friday, January 15, 2016 - 08:00 AM
Until: Sunday, January 17, 2016 - 08:00 PM
(Adjusted for timezone: America/Los_Angeles)

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Smashboards Owner
Jul 6, 2003
Bellevue, Washington
Genesis is back! The stage is set at the beautiful San Jose Convention center from January 15th through the 17th in the heart of downtown. Be a part of the legendary national tournament series that sparked one of the most intense rivalries in Smash history. If you missed the first 2, now is your chance to witness the Genesis experience everyone has been talking about, first hand. Register today and be a part of history!

December 29, 2015: For those of you only interested in the updates, a bullet point of primary changes has been outlined for you below. For anyone looking to understand the reasoning behind the updates, please follow past the bullet points.
  • Top 32 seed will no longer be directly admitted to round 2 pools, they will be placed into respective round 1 pools.
  • Crews is still expected to happen with slight changes in the potential line up, as well as managing potential schedule conflicts from participants who entered more than 2 events.
  • There are no other changes at this time
To diminish the overwhelming concern of the Smash 4 community, the Genesis team has unanimously decided to revert the idea of sending top 32 directly into round 2 of pools. This idea, although yielding some benefit, has been rejected by the greater community and therefore warranted an adjustment. As the primary goal of the team is to deliver the best competitive experience, it is important to note a couple of things:

Round 2 pools will consist of 192 players (instead of 224 with the auto promotion, meaning no less players would have made it into round 2). There are simply NOT 192 players that are remotely near the same skill level. That player base is likely closer to half. Therefore the idea to remove 32 players was not only to expedite the course of events, but to also allow a greater opportunity for players near the same skill level to eliminate themselves as opposed to being knocked out by a top 32 seed and a top 65+ seed. However the perception by the community is that there isn’t enough justification to solidly select the top 32 considering the likelihood of upsets from the 33-100 range of seeded players, and therefore someone who was granted 32nd seed is receiving an unwarranted luxury that someone who could viably beat them, at 33rd seed, would not. This issue is not only justified, but cannot be counter argued simply because it is true. After a VERY small handful of players, the skill gaps are not glaring enough to warrant player A (32nd seed) getting a free ride to round 2 and player B (33rd seed) having to play their way through round 1 pools. This idea may be viable some years down the road, but at present we are retracting the proposition.

Crews is a HIGHLY anticipated event that many people look forward to watching, as such the plan is to leave this event in the schedule.

The primary goal, once again, of the Genesis team is to ensure that all patrons have a memorable event, where they felt their time and money was well spent. To that end, we are working tirelessly to address all major areas of concern and ironing out all bumps, so that Genesis 3 is a smooth ride! We are deeply grateful for your continued support and feedback. We are honored to be part of such a dynamic community and eagerly await your participation at Genesis 3!

Web Links

Past Results

Past Champions
Genesis Melee Singles: Mango
Genesis Brawl Singles: Ally
Genesis Melee Doubles: Mew2King and Jman
Genesis Brawl Doubles: Mew2King and Fiction
Genesis 2 Melee Singles: Armada
Genesis 2 Melee Doubles: Lucky and Mango
Genesis 2 Brawl Singles: Mew2King
Genesis 2 Brawl Doubles: Mew2King and Ally

Prize Pools (as of January 2nd)
  • Smash Melee Singles (1,828 players) - $23,280 (includes $5,000 compendium bonus)
  • Smash Melee Doubles (913 players) - $9,130
  • Smash Wii U Singles (1,096 players) - $10,960
  • Smash Wii U Doubles (606 players) - $6,060
  • Smash 64 Singles (238 players) - $2,380
  • Smash 64 Doubles (97 players) - $970
  • Smash Melee Draft Crew Battle: $5,000
  • Smash Wii U Region Crew Battle: $2,000
Current Total: $49,780

Genesis 3 Venue Fee

September 29 - October 23: $40
October 24 - November 30: $50
December 1 - December 14: $60
December 15 - January 7: $100
*No refunds for venue fee*​

Genesis 3 Registration Cost
Super Smash Brothers Melee Singles: $10
Super Smash Brother Melee Doubles: $10 per player
Super Smash Brothers for Wii U Singles: $10
Super Smash Brothers for Wii U Doubles: $10 per player
Super Smash Brothers 64 Singles: $10
Super Smash Brothers 64 Doubles: $10 per play​

Attendees (3,115 players and counting)

San Jose Convention Center
150 W San Carlos St.
San Jose, California 95113​


Hyatt Place

Rates: $189
Adress: 282 Almaden Blvd, San Jose CA, 95113
Phone: (408) 998-0400
Reservation Link: Click here!
Reservation #: 1-888-492-8847
Reservation Code: Genesis Gaming Block (Use only if you call)​

Springhill Suites
Rates: Starting at $169
Address: 10 Skyport Drive, San Jose CA, 95110
Phone: (408)650-0590
Reservation Link - Click here!
Reservation #: (408)650-0590
Reservation code: “Super Smash Brothers”​

Fairfield Inn and Suites
Rates: STARTING AT $127
Address: 1755 North 1st st, San Jose CA, 95112
Phone: (408)453-3133
Reservation Link: Click here!
Reservation #: 1800-228-2800
Reservation code: Genesis Gaming group rate​

Genesis 3 Event Schedule
Exact schedule is TBD based on final registration numbers, Below is the rough outline.
Friday, January 15: Round 1 Pool play for all events
Saturday, January 16: Round 2 and 3 bracket play for all events. Finals for doubles events
Sunday, January 17: Top 8 for all Singles events.​

Genesis 3 Stream Schedule
Coming soon!

  • 4 stock, 8 minutes
  • Handicap OFF
  • Damage ratio 1.0
  • Items OFF
  • Pause OFF
  • Team attack ON

  1. Players/teams select characters, or use double blind picks (see additional rules section) if either player/team asks for it.
  2. First stage is selected according to stage striking. Neutral ports may be asked for. Neutral start may never be used. See the additional rules section for a description of these rules.
  3. Game is played
  4. Counterpicking procedure takes place:
    • Game winner bans 1 stage in bo3, no stages in bo5. This ban is in effect for the following game ONLY.
    • Game loser picks stage from among legal stages. Players/teams may not pick ANY stage they have won on in the set previously except by agreement of the opponent (Stage Clause, also known as Modified Dave's Stupid Rule).
    • Winning player/team may change characters.
    • Losing player/team may change characters.
    • Next game is played.
  5. Repeat steps 3-4 until one player/team has won the set.
For singles, sets until top 32 are best-of-3, then best-of-5 for top 32 (16 players in winners and losers).
For doubles , sets until top 8 are best-of-3, then best-of-5 for top 8 (4 teams in winners and losers).

  • Yoshi's Story
  • Fountain of Dreams
  • Battlefield
  • Final Destination
  • Dream Land 64
  • Pokemon Stadium
  • Yoshi's Story
  • Pokemon Stadium
  • Battlefield
  • Final Destination
  • Dream Land 64
  • None
Stage Striking
Players will eliminate stages from the starter stage list until one remains. Procedure is as follows:
  1. Players play best-of-one RPS.
  2. Winner may choose to have port priority or the first stage strike. Port priority can be ignored if neither player brings it up.
  3. The player with first stage strike shall strike one of the 5 starter stages. The other player then strikes two, and then the first player strikes one more to leave one (1-2-2-1 order).
Stage Bans
(Best-of-3 only) After each game of the set, before counterpicking, the player who won the previous game may ban one stage from the stage list. Stage bans last 1 game, therefore a player who banned a stage may counterpick that stage themselves later in the set, unless banned by their opponent.

There are no stage bans in best-of-5 sets.​

Neutral Ports
Some relative spawn points in some stages are significantly advantageous to one player/team. Either player/team may request, before a match begins, to have controller ports to be switched to avoid these situations. This request cannot be turned down. Port priority must be maintained through the switch. A list of neutral ports for each stage will be available on request.​

Neutral Start
Players may NEVER ask for a "neutral start" where both players move to the opposite side of the stage after the game start and then countdown to 'officially' start the game. If anyone does ask for this, use neutral ports rule instead. Players that neutral start on stream will be removed from the stream. A player that has been warned about this rule but asks the other player anyway will forfeit the game of the set about to be played.​

Double Blind
In order to avoid being character counterpicked by another player after one player selects theirs, they may call for a double blind pick. They must request this before stage striking begins. The procedure is as follows:
  1. A player requests double blind to the opponent
  2. This player calls over a pool captain or other tournament official (must be approved by the other player), and tells them their character selection in secret.
  3. The other player selects their character.
  4. The official then announces the first player's pick and that player must select that character for the first stage.
  5. Set procedure continues from step 2 as described above.
Stage Clause
Players may not pick ANY stage they have won on in the set previously except by agreement of the opponent. This is also known as Modified Dave's Stupid Rule. Can be circumvented by Gentleman's Clause.​

Gentleman’s Clause
This rule can only be used to allow an opponent to go to a stage they already won on in the set, or to agree on a legal stage instead of stage striking. It cannot be used to pick a stage off the stage list or to agree to different game/set rules or settings, etc. Playing a game contrary to this rule may result in a forfeit of that game by the player who asked to do so.​

In the event that pause is not turned off, pausing the game is only legal while a player remains upon their OWN respawn platform AFTER notifying the other player, and only for the purpose of summoning a tournament organizer, or in the event of a controller malfunction. In the case of an accidental pause, the other player has the option to cause the other player to forfeit their current stock upon unpausing. If a pause causes an opponent to lose a stock, the offending player may be required to forfeit two stocks. If such stock loss would reduce the player to zero stock, they lose the game regardless of the result of the match on screen. If the opponent lost their last stock of the game, and the offending player was not reduced to zero stock, the game may be replayed. All judgments are up to the TO’s final discretion.​

The act of stalling, or intentionally making the game unplayable, is banned and at the discretion of the TO. Stalling tactics include but are not limited to becoming invisible, infinites, chain grabs, or uninterruptible moves past 300%; or abusing a position in which one player’s opponent can never reach them. Any action that can prevent the game from continuing (e.g. freeze glitches, disappearing characters, game reset, etc.) will result in forfeiture of that match for the offending player. Players are responsible for knowing their own character, and must be wary about accidentally triggering these effects.​

Timeouts, Ties, and Sudden Death
In the case of the time reaching zero, the player with the higher stock wins the match. If players are tied in stock, lower percent wins. If players are tied in percent, or two players/teams lose all their last stocks simultaneously, players play a 1 stock game with a 3 minute timer to determine the result of the match. If this was a doubles game, all players play in the game.​

No Grab ‘n’ Go
Teammates may not touch each other’s controllers during games.
Stock sharing is allowed in doubles.​

Colorblind Clause
Players may request that their opponent change colors to accommodate colorblindedness, or if their color is indistinguishable from either the other team color or the stage background. This request must be made before the first game of the set.​

Warm-up periods, button checks, and “handwarmers” may not exceed 60 seconds on the game clock. Violation of this rule may result in an automatic forfeit at the discretion of the TO.​

Games or sets are not to be replayed due to a misinterpretation of the rules; it is the players’ responsibilities to ask the TO for any clarification of the rule set in the event of a disagreement, and the outcome of a game or set will not be changed after the fact except under extreme circumstances.

There will be no coaching allowed between or during games of a set. Players may having coaching between sets, including after a reset of grand finals, or any other time when the bracket is such that only one set may be played at a time. Players are always allowed 3 minutes between sets for this purpose in addition to ordinary time constraints.​

Any collusion or results manipulation with competitors is forbidden. If the TO determines that any competitor is colluding to manipulate results or intentionally underperform, the colluding players may be immediately disqualified. This determination is to be made at the sole discretion of the TO. Anyone disqualified in this manner forfeits all rights to any titles or prize money they might have otherwise earned.​

Wireless Controllers
Only wireless controllers licensed by Nintendo are allowed. All use of wireless controllers must be reported to the pool captain before their use.​

Any controller malfunctions are entirely the player’s responsibility. Players are responsible for using the correct settings BEFORE the set begins. Both parties need to agree if a match is to be paused or restarted because of a controller problem.​

Coming Soon!
Coming Soon!

Genesis 3 Smash Draft
During Genesis 3 on Friday, there will be a Super Smash Brothers Melee Draft Crew Battle. As many of the top players will be auto-qualifying past pool play on Friday, the draft crew battle will give viewers a chance to watch top talent battle early in the tournament. The crew battle will consist of 8 crews of 5 players each, with 40 players total participating. The prize pool will be up to $5,000 and every game will be streamed live on Showdown Smash.

Electing Team Captains
Captains will be voted through Genesis 3 Compendium.
Click here to vote

The Draft
Watch day 1 of Genesis 3 so see the live draft! The top 64 players from the MIOM 2015 ranking will be seeded out of day 1 pools and will be able to participate. Captains will take turns drafting players until each team has 5 players.​

Up to $5,000 Prize Pool
The 8 drafted teams will compete in a single elimination bracket for up to $5,000 in prizes.​

The Genesis 3 Compendium
Genesis 3 will feature a compendium run through SmashGG! The compendium features analog items for contributing toward the event. As of January 2nd, 2016, there has been over $25,000 raised. Below are the levels.

Level 1 - $4,000
  • Wario goes to Genesis 3
  • Smash Draft has $1,000 prize pool
Level 2 - $8,000
  • Zhu makes a Genesis 3 Epic Montage
  • The Smash Wii U Region Crew Battle has a $1,000 prize pool
  • Smash Practice does player interviews
Level 3 - $12,000
  • Javi goes to Genesis 3
  • Twin goes to Genesis 3
  • The event gets a 30+ setup dedicated friendlies room
Level 4 - $16,000
  • TKbreezy goes to Genesis 3
  • EEVisu goes to Genesis 3
Level 5 - $20,000
  • Abate goes to Genesis 3
  • Sol goes to Genesis 3
  • The Smash Wii U Region Crew battle has a $2,000 prize pool
Level 6 - $24,000
  • Winner of City of Melee goes to Genesis 3 (Smopup)
  • Non-eSports Commentary secondary stream on day 1 and 2
  • Melee Singles gets a $1,000 prize pot bonus
Level 7 - $28,000
  • N0ne goes to Genesis 3
  • Smash Draft has a $3,000 prize pool
  • Bobby scar award: 5th and 6th place in Melee singles will play for a $500 tie-breaker
Level 8 - $32,000
  • Prog does Last Stock Legends interviews
  • Last Stock Legends Genesis 3 documentary
  • Papapaint Top 8 Intro videos
Level 9 - $36,000
  • Ice goes to Genesis 3
  • DJ Jack goes to Genesis 3
  • Smash Draft and Day 3 analyst desk added for stream
  • $3,000 Melee Singles pot bonus
  • Smash draft has a $5,000 prize pool
Level 10 - $40,000
  • Fatality goes to Genesis 3
  • $5,000 Melee Singles pot bonus
  • Friendlies open 24/7 starting Thursday night
Level 11 - $44,000 [ALL UNLOCKED]
  • Acid goes to Genesis 3
  • Brawl 8-player Invitational occurs "Brawl Tournament of Legends"
Click here to donate toward the Compendium!


Smash Ace
Mar 21, 2015
Holy moly this is looking like to be the best tournament to date...I seriously can't wait for 10 days!

Hopefully the event runs well!

hi im dennis

Smash Apprentice
Aug 31, 2015
Central PA
Does anyone know the schedule, I'm assuming since there are so many events that they would have all pools at the same time but on separate streams but I could be wrong.


Smash Master
Sep 20, 2005
On the Genesis website they have the ruling listed in the Wii U rules:
  • All Characters Available
  • Mii Fighters are legal. Each setup will have 1111 Mii Brawlers/Swordsmen/Gunners available for use (Using Default A-F standard size Miis provided on console). No other specials for Mii Fighters will be allowed. Players are not allowed to transfer existing Miis to a setup.

All Characters are available, but all Mii will not be available. Instead, they are relegated to an "effective ban".
Are they not considered "characters" or is this just hypocrisy?
Either way they have just slapped every Mii main and self-respecting competitor who values the creed of competition (rewarding the skill of players who push the game to its limits) right in the face.
1111 = effective ban
Competitively every ban/restriction must be born of sound reasoning.
Thanks for driving a nail into the coffin of these characters that not only have never been shown to be "broken" and would otherwise have brought much depth and enjoyment to our game.

-t0mMii (who loved the character so much he changed a decade-long used tournament name to reflect this).

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Smash Lord
Jul 10, 2005
Hey guys, I happen to be in Mountain View on a business trip at the tournament dates so I'm coming as a spectator (missed the registration :( ).
Can I catch a ride with anyone?


Smash Ace
May 12, 2015
Is that guy in this thread...?
Alex Strife Is 100% not on this thread. In fact, he has not made a smashboards post in over a year. R rty1001 Is very confused.

On a separate note, does anybody know when the Salty Suite will be held? I can't find that info anywhere and I really don't wanna miss it. Edit: Found it
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