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Ganondorf is Currently Low Tier.

TP

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We have every reason to believe that a new tier list is coming out tomorrow, and every reason to believe it will have a bottom tier. If it does, Ganon will be there. :(

This could be the end of an era. This could be the last time Ganon is ever not bottom tier. It's a shame. Let's remember all the good times we have had as a low tier character. Post the most awesome thing you have ever done with Ganon. For example:

I was fighting Gleam online on Final Destination. Suddenly, we both stopped moving, waiting to see what the other would do. He crouched, and so did I. He crouched twice, and I followed suit. He kept doing more and more complicated things, with me repeating him. Finally, we went to opposite ends of the stage and did the Flight of Ganon. I went up slighty before him, and I stomped the living **** out of him from all the way up. I then killed myself so he wouldn't feel so ashamed. Sorry Gleam.
 

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*Tries to hide shame...*

Well Ganondorf was 2nd to last on the last Tier list. He was above Link though who was above Falcon but I think that changed. Still I mean its not like he can fall too much.

But I swear if the likes of Captain...Freaking...Falcon (Don't flame me Falcon mains!) goes above Ganondorf. I will flame choke a cat..

EDIT: Besides its not like Ganon wasn't bottom on the last tier list. Its just...there wasn't a Bottom Tier list.
 

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*Tries to hide shame...*

Well Ganondorf was 2nd to last on the last Tier list. He was above Link though who was above Falcon but I think that changed. Still I mean its not like he can fall too much.

But I swear if the likes of Captain...Freaking...Falcon (Don't flame me Falcon mains!) goes above Ganondorf. I will flame choke a cat..
I don't think Ganondorf will be below Falcon tomorrow, a lot of new stuff is being discovered but not much of it known outside the Falcon boards. His potential lies in the new techchasing discoveries and his awesome speed, but thats no been full unlocked yet.
 

Flame Beast

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I don't played melee... so...
Why Ganondorf is in Middle Tier in Melee and Bottom Tier in Brawl?
He got nerfed to death?

If so... Sakurai sucks
 

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Most awesome thing with Ganon? Warlock Punched a Sonic out of his recovery. Ganondorf completely ignores invincibility frames.

Oh and a couple of others:

- Spiking people who were jumping up and down on the spring on Pictochat.
- 0-death on DDD by doing 3 dairs.
- Double Warlock Punch kill in teams (one of them was my teammate).
- Dair -> dair -> dair -> ftilt -> tipman uair on a Diddy.
- Donning the green outfit, tagging myself as BROKN and proceeding to three-stock the opponent.
- 3-stocking Gheb's Wolf :3
- Fighting against Rebaz and intercepting his Falcon Kick with a dair for the kill.

I do think Falcon will be above Ganondorf... I fear the worst for us Ganondorf mains. Captain Falcon is just being represented a lot lately, just check out his tourney results! Whereas Ganondorf just doesn't have that many tourney-winning mains.
 

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I don't played melee... so...
Why Ganondorf is in Middle Tier in Melee and Bottom Tier in Brawl?
He got nerfed to death?

If so... Sakurai sucks
L-canceling made his Fair great, his Bair could always hit opponents who were on the ground, and his recovery was much better, since his aerial Wizkick gave him his second jump back and didn't make him plummet so badly. Also, projectiles are more important in Brawl.
 

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Last night in 4 person FFAs, I won a match by FoG -> DAir on top of both remaining opponents in one fell swoop. It was brutal and controllers across the world exploded in protest. Just thought I'd mention it.
 

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I do think Falcon will be above Ganondorf... I fear the worst for us Ganondorf mains. Captain Falcon is just being represented a lot lately, just check out his tourney results! Whereas Ganondorf just doesn't have that many tourney-winning mains.
The reason Falcon is high on the new results list is because Ally used him once or twice in a big Niagra tournament. Ally is one of the best snakes in the world, and winning a large tourny like that gave Falcon a HUGE boost. I've been alting Falcon some, and though I'm beginning to see how he is an alright character, I don't think he deserves to be above Ganon on the tier list.
 

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I don't mind Ganon being last on tier list, I would actually encourage it if I could.

It just makes it all the better when you start beating the crap outta people.
 

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The reason Falcon is high on the new results list is because Ally used him once or twice in a big Niagra tournament. Ally is one of the best snakes in the world, and winning a large tourny like that gave Falcon a HUGE boost. I've been alting Falcon some, and though I'm beginning to see how he is an alright character, I don't think he deserves to be above Ganon on the tier list.
wtf

So he uses him a couple of times and he shoots up to C tier? That's pretty bull****.
 

hyperstation

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wtf

So he uses him a couple of times and he shoots up to C tier? That's pretty bull****.
Well, I mean, he IS Ally. That guy is serious ****, and I'm sure his Hard Nipps is nothing to sneeze at, but yeah...he's a Snake main, not a Falcon main. It would be a lot cooler if he just got down with the Captain exclusively. The Character Rankings List is going to be shot to hell every weekend for the next few weeks because each set of tourny results will rock the boat a lot harder than does after there's a nice 2-3 month base of results. Tumultuous math, homies. Hopefully's Kosk's 2nd place will do something for Ganon. :lick:
 

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The reason Falcon is high on the new results list is because Ally used him once or twice in a big Niagra tournament. Ally is one of the best snakes in the world, and winning a large tourny like that gave Falcon a HUGE boost. I've been alting Falcon some, and though I'm beginning to see how he is an alright character, I don't think he deserves to be above Ganon on the tier list.
its not ALL ally... sure he helps but its because falcon mains are starting to step up their game and stoof i mean i dont even have a wii and i place around 13th in my first tourney...


but yeah, most awesome thing with ganon was warlock punching a metaknight when he tripped into it..feels good man
 

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its not ALL ally... sure he helps but its because falcon mains are starting to step up their game and stoof i mean i dont even have a wii and i place around 13th in my first tourney...


but yeah, most awesome with with ganon was warlock punching a metaknight when he tripped into it..feels good man
I warlock punched my brother Wolf.

Wolf charges F-Smash
Flame starts charging reverse falcon punch
Wolf comes and takes a big Warlock Punch in the face
GAME!
 

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Here's how:

TOURNAMENT: Only in Niagara 4
LINK: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=211954
DATE: December 20th, 2008
LOCALE: Canada
ENTRANTS: 62
ENTRY: $15.00
1 Ally (Snake/Captain Falcon)

For this, Ally gets: 15*62*10/160 = 58.125

Because he used 2 characters, the points get divided evenly, so CF got 29.0625 from that one placing.

Personally I think that characters should be given a weight according to how much they were used, but that is difficult to ascertain without a play-by-play of what happened
I have no interest in being a b*tch about it, because I don't invest much in the rankings list, but look at the math. Out of Falcons total 30.2 points, 29+ of them came from Ally's win. It IS all Ally. But that's cool, man. Rep for Hard Nipps. I love that dude.
 

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I have no interest in being a b*tch about it, because I don't invest much in the rankings list, but look at the math. Out of Falcons total 30.2 points, 29+ of them came from Ally's win. It IS all Ally. But that's cool, man. Rep for Hard Nipps. I love that dude.
oh ****, my bad
 

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Well, I mean, he IS Ally. That guy is serious ****, and I'm sure his Hard Nipps is nothing to sneeze at, but yeah...he's a Snake main, not a Falcon main. It would be a lot cooler if he just got down with the Captain exclusively. The Character Rankings List is going to be shot to hell every weekend for the next few weeks because each set of tourny results will rock the boat a lot harder than does after there's a nice 2-3 month base of results. Tumultuous math, homies. Hopefully's Kosk's 2nd place will do something for Ganon. :lick:
Who gives a **** if he's Ally? This sounds like a typical case of cockriding to me. O: But come on, if you played Ganondorf all the tourney and you did one match of say... Olimar, and Olimar gets just as much points as Ganondorf, it'd just be plain dumb, don't matter who you are.
 
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