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Friend's fox, critique plz? :O

ThreeX

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ArcNatural

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not bad, i love this game..when you jump it really feels like your jumping.
lol?

Anyway I watched all of them. You guys look like your just getting the hang of shffling and stuff. Still are not fluid with them but your getting there. Since you know how to do them, only advice is to stick to it and it should get better over time and you won't mess up as much.

Ok now for some tips.

You both need to get more comfortable moving around and actually being the one to approach. Both of you had a lot of moments where you stayed apart waiting for the other person to approach. Only reason for this is because you both don't approach well and it's pretty obvious why. Whenever someone approaches you both tend to double jump over (to avoid the others attack) and just try to land on each other. This is really the only counter approach you guys had. I think you dashdanced maybe 3 times all the rounds and the Falco did even less. Work on that, because you dash dance at the wrong times.

The Falco should work on lasering around the stage until he gets comfortable with it. Standing lasers will not work on Fox that well since you can just reflect them back, work on wavelands to shine, wavedashing to shl, reverse shl and moving shl. He also needs to get better at wavedashing out of the shine.

You really need to work on approaching, because you both are fairly predictable. Whenever you were actually close to Falco or rushing in you almost always did a straight out attack, that's where dashdancing comes in. Dash in to bait the jump, dash away then come back with a shffl approach, jc grab, or w/e. You basically both really suck at approaching because you haven't figured out how to counter the stand around jump over the attack approach. This results in a lot of standing around waiting for the other to approach. You need to stay close and keep applying pressure and not stay apart so much, and you should get better at learning how to avoid attacks and counter rather than running away so much.

That all I can think of that's relevant atm. There are other things that you guys need to work on, but I really recommend getting better at moving around the stage, learning how to dashdance at appropriate times, and learning how to keep the pressure on the opponent.
 

Kiyoru

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lol at the jumping.

I'll agree with Arc. You both should wavedash a little more to evade each others attacks and make sure your SHFFLs are up to scratch.

^^
 

GOTM

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remember when you ledgehog, this opens up a whole nother form of edguarding. ledgehop bairs and falling into a shine are some options

you dont have to just hog the ledge and hope falco doesnt get back, even though his recovery does suck, make sure he dies ;)
 

Smash_Aholic

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One think that kills me when i play his falco is his lazer, it ruins all my chances of comboing... how do i get around that lazer?

- Oh and thanks for the advice acrnatural :D
 

nashdar13

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He needs to learn more mindgames such as wavedashing, circle jumping, and dashdancing. He is charging straight into the fray usually with a grab. He needs to wavedash more, and also use his SHINE alot more. He could also short hop laser a bunch more to rank up some damage.

BTW, I only watched the first video.
 

GLCH

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Your Fox needs A LOT of work... No offense.. To get past the lazers, you sheild, jump, or block it with your face.. Sex kick more.. Wavedash more.. Mind games more.. Chain grab.. umm... Practice??
 

muesli

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Hi,

here I give your friend some advices,

1. Stop the useless shines in the air.
2. Use more shines for example after an SHFFLd D-air.
3. Grab him, Falco is a fast faller and very vunerable against Fox' Up-throw.
4. Fix your recovery
5. Try to spam sometimes lasers to add a low amount of damage.
6. I hate to say that because I hate these technique (it is so cheap to kill some1 with it) but shine spike him, Falco's recovery is horrible against shine spikes.
7. Mindgame him, use empty SHs or dashdance a bit, to make him insecure.
8. Improve your edgeguard.
9. Train to DI correct.
10.COMBO HIM!!!11one!!twelve.

EDIT: Watched only the first two vids.
I hope I could help



muesli :)
 

d_shep04

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well maybe i can help you both... since i main falco... but i'll start with the fox guy first...

he needs to work on avoiding your shl (it's not that hard 2 avoid them)... he needs to work on Owning tha stage against you... what i mean about that is he shouldn't let you own the stage with your shl... he should always be close 2 you so he can **** you (IT'S FOX FOR CRYING OUT LOUD) -->IF there was a tier above top tier... fox would be the only one there... but anyways... like the muesli said... tell him 2 stop those useless plinks... they leave him so open.. he needs 2 work on his edge game... and plinking you out of your f.B or your u.B (once again this is fox we are talking about)... He needs 2 have a killer mindset with fox (he is a natural born killer in anybody hands)

with your falco... it was pretty fun to watch but WAY to predictable... the main thing you should do is stop double jumping all the time... it's basically like the other guy triple plinking for no reason (oh what i mean by plink is shine... just 2 clear that up) but anyways... ALWAYS try 2 short hop your moves.... unless you have 2 use that second jump 2 avoid the other opponents aerial attack...

tips for both of you...
--> work on your l-canceling... that plays a major part
--> work on your mind games...
--> work on your edge recoveries (well i saw you do the lhdl like once or twice) mix it up man... and help him with something
--> and other than that... im out... and HAPPY NEW YEARS BY THE WAY... DONT DRINK AND DRIVE...
 
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