Frame Data Comparison Charts

[Pikabunz]

Here's some random notes about this:
- Everyone's forward roll and back roll are the same except for Greninja's.
- Everyone has the same end lag on spot dodging and air dodging except Mewtwo and Lucario.
- All frame data came from here : http://sixriver.web.fc2.com/ssb4/Character_data.htm

Spoiler: Grab, Dash Grab, and Pivot Grab

| Grab Hitbox | Total Frames || Dash Grab Hitbox | Total Frames || Pivot Grab Hitbox | Total Frames
Mario | 6 - 7 | 28 || 8 - 9 | 35 || 9 - 10 | 33
Dr. Mario| 6 - 7 | 28 || 8 - 9 | 35 || 9 - 10 | 33
Luigi | 6 - 7 | 28 || 8 - 9 | 35 || 9 - 10 | 33
Peach | 6 - 7 | 31 || 8 - 9 | 39 || 9 - 10 | 37
Bowser | 9 - 10 | 38 || 10 - 11 | 47 || 11 - 12 | 45
Yoshi | 14 - 24 | 55 || 11 - 21 | 67 || 10 - 20 | 64
Rosalina & Luma | 6 - 7 | 35 || 8 - 9 | 42 || 9 - 10 | 41
Bowser Jr | 12 - 13 | 35 || 13 - 14 | 44 || 12 - 13 | 41
Wario | 8 - 9 | 29 || 8 - 9 | 36 || 8 - 9 | 34
Mr. Game & Watch | 6 - 7 | 29 || 8 - 9 | 36 || 9 - 10 | 34
Donkey Kong | 8 - 9 | 30 || 10 - 11 | 38 || 11 - 12 | 36
Diddy Kong | 6 - 7 | 28 || 8 - 9 | 35 || 9 - 10 | 33
Link | 12 - 17 | 66 || 14 | 77 || 15 | 78
Zelda | 10 - 11 | 37 || 11 - 12 | 46 || 11 - 12 | 44
Sheik | 6 - 7 | 27 || 8 - 9 | 34 || 9 - 10 | 32
Ganondorf | 7 - 8 | 35 || 11 - 12 | 44 || 10 - 11 | 41
Toon Link | 12 - 13, 12 - 18 | 61 || 14 - 15, 14 - 22 | 71 || 15 - 16, 15 - 21 | 71
Samus | 16 - 19, 16 - 25 | 79 || 16 - 19, 16 - 26 | 73 || 17 - 19, 17 - 28 | 93
Zero Suit Samus | 16 - 19, 16 - 29 | 68 || 16 - 19, 16 - 29 | 71 || 17 - 19, 17 - 29 | 78
Pit | 6 - 7 | 29 || 8 - 9 | 36 || 9 - 10 | 34
Dark Pit | 6 - 7 | 29 || 8 - 9 | 36 || 9 - 10 | 34
Palutena | 7 - 8 | 33 || 9 - 10 | 41 || 10 - 11 | 39
Marth | 7 - 8 | 29 || 8 - 9 | 36 || 9 - 10 | 34
Lucina | 7 - 8 | 29 || 8 - 9 | 36 || 9 - 10 | 34
Ike | 7 - 8 | 32 || 10 - 11 | 40 || 11 - 12 | 38
Robin | 7 - 8 | 39 || 8 - 9 | 49 || 9 - 10 | 46
Kirby | 6 - 7 | 27 || 8 - 9 | 38 || 10 - 11| 32
King Dedede | 7 - 8 | 35 || 9 - 10 | 44 || 10 - 11 | 41
Meta Knight | 7 - 8 | 31 || 9 - 10 | 39 || 9 - 10 | 37
Little Mac | 9 - 10 | 32 || 10 - 11 | 40 || 11 - 12 | 38
Fox | 6 - 7 | 28 || 10 - 11 | 35 || 11 - 12 | 33
Falco | 8 - 9 | 31 || 10 - 11 | 39 || 11 - 12 | 37
Pikachu | 6 - 7 | 27 || 8 - 9 | 34 || 9 - 10 | 32
Charizard | 8 - 9 | 33 || 10 - 11 | 41 || 11 - 12 | 39
Lucario | 6 - 7 | 28 || 8 - 9 | 35 || 9 - 10 | 33
Jigglypuff | 6 - 7 | 26 || 8 - 9 | 32 || 9 - 10 | 31
Greninja | 14 - 15 | 29 || 9 - 10 | 39 || 15 - 16 | 35
Mewtwo | 7 | 35 || 9 | 42 || 10 | 40
Duck Hunt | 8 - 9 | 28 || 10 - 11 | 35 || 10 - 11 | 33
R.O.B. | 7 - 8 | 30 || 9 - 10 | 37 || 11 - 12 | 36
Ness | 6 - 7 | 34 || 8 - 9 | 42 || 10 - 11 | 40
Captain Falcon | 7 - 8 | 30 || 9 - 10 | 37 || 12 - 13 | 36
Villager | 15 - 16 | 57 || 16 - 17 | 71 || 17 - 18 | 67
Olimar | 10 - 19 | 49 || 10 - 19 | 52 || 10 - 19 | 35
Wii Fit Trainer | 6 - 7 | 28 || 9 - 10 | 37 || 10 - 11 | 33
Shulk | 7 - 8 | 29 || 9 - 10 | 36 || 10 - 11 | 34
Pac-Man | 12 - 14, 22 - 24, 32 - 39 | 75 || 12 - 14, 22 - 24, 32 - 39 | 75 || 12 - 14, 22 - 24, 32 - 39 | 75
Megaman | 6 - 7 | 30 || 8 - 9 | 37 || 9 - 10 | 35
Sonic | 6 - 7 | 30 || 10 - 11 | 37 || 10 - 11 | 36
Mii Brawler | 6 - 7 | 26, 29 , 35 || 8 - 9 | 32, 36, 44 || 9 - 10 | 30, 34, 41
Mii Swordfighter | 6 - 7 | 25, 28, 34 || 8 - 9 | 31, 35, 43 || 9 - 10 | 29, 33 , 40
Mii Gunner | 6 - 7 | 25, 28, 34 || 8 - 9 | 33, 38, 46 || 9 - 10 | 30, 34, 41

Spoiler: Forward Roll

| Total Frames | Invincibility | Invincibility Duration | End Lag
Mario | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Dr. Mario | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Luigi | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Peach | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Bowser| 33 | 4 - 21 | 18 | 12
Yoshi | 35 | 4 - 23 | 20 | 12
Rosalina & Luma | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Bowser Jr | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Wario | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Mr. Game & Watch | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Donkey Kong | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Diddy Kong | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Link | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Zelda | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Sheik | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Ganondorf | 33 | 4 - 21 | 18 | 12
Toon Link | 26 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 10
Samus | 39 | 4 - 25 | 22 | 14
Zero Suit Samus | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Pit | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Dark Pit | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Palutena | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Marth | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Lucina | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Ike | 32 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 12
Robin | 32 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 12
Kirby | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
King Dedede | 33 | 4 - 21 | 18 | 12
Meta Knight | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Little Mac | 26 | 4 - 14 | 11 | 12
Fox | 26 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 10
Falco | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Pikachu | 26 | 4 - 16| 13 | 10
Charizard | 32 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 12
Lucario | 29 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 13
Jigglypuff | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Greninja | 29 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 13
Mewtwo | 29 | 4 - 15 | 12 | 14
Duck Hunt | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
R.O.B. | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Ness | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Captain Falcon | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Villager | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Olimar | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Wii Fit Trainer | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Shulk | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Pac-Man | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Megaman | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Sonic | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Mii Brawler | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Mii Swordfighter | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Mii Gunner | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11

Spoiler: Back Roll

| Total Frames | Invincibility | Invincibility Duration | End Lag
Mario | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Dr. Mario | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Luigi | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Peach | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Bowser| 33 | 4 - 21 | 18 | 12
Yoshi | 35 | 4 - 23 | 20 | 12
Rosalina & Luma | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Bowser Jr | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Wario | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Mr. Game & Watch | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Donkey Kong | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Diddy Kong | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Link | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Zelda | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Sheik | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Ganondorf | 33 | 4 - 21 | 18 | 12
Toon Link | 26 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 10
Samus | 39 | 4 - 25 | 22 | 14
Zero Suit Samus | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Pit | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Dark Pit | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Palutena | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Marth | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Lucina | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Ike | 32 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 12
Robin | 32 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 12
Kirby | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
King Dedede | 33 | 4 - 21 | 18 | 12
Meta Knight | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Little Mac | 26 | 4 - 14 | 11 | 12
Fox | 26 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 10
Falco | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Pikachu | 26 | 4 - 16| 13 | 10
Charizard | 32 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 12
Lucario | 29 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 13
Jigglypuff | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Greninja | 32 | 4 - 16 | 13 | 16
Mewtwo | 29 | 4 - 15 | 12 | 14
Duck Hunt | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
R.O.B. | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Ness | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Captain Falcon | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Villager | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Olimar | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Wii Fit Trainer | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Shulk | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Pac-Man | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Megaman | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Sonic | 27 | 4 - 17 | 14 | 10
Mii Brawler | 29 | 4 - 18 | 15 | 11
Mii Swordfighter | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11
Mii Gunner | 30 | 4 - 19 | 16 | 11

Spoiler: Spot Dodge

| Total Frames | Invincibility | Invincibility Duration | End Lag
Mario | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Dr. Mario | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Luigi | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Peach | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Bowser | 28 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 8
Yoshi | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Rosalina & Luma | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Bowser Jr | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Wario | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Mr. Game & Watch | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
Donkey Kong | 28 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 8
Diddy Kong | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
Link | 27| 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Zelda | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Sheik | 24 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 8
Ganondorf | 28 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 8
Toon Link | 24 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 8
Samus | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Zero Suit Samus | 24 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 8
Pit | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
Dark Pit | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
Palutena | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Marth | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Lucina | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Ike | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Robin | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Kirby | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
King Dedede | 28 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 8
Meta Knight | 24 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 8
Little Mac | 24 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 8
Fox | 24 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 8
Falco | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
Pikachu | 24 | 2 - 16| 15 | 8
Charizard | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Lucario | 26 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 10
Jigglypuff | 28 | 4 - 20 | 17 | 8
Greninja | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
Mewtwo | 24 | 2 - 15 | 14 | 9
Duck Hunt | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
R.O.B. | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Ness | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Captain Falcon | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Villager | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Olimar | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Wii Fit Trainer | 25 | 2 - 17 | 16 | 8
Shulk | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Pac-Man | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Megaman | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Sonic | 24 | 2 - 16 | 15 | 8
Mii Brawler | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8
Mii Swordfighter | 27 | 3 - 19 | 17 | 8
Mii Gunner | 26 | 3 - 18 | 16 | 8

Spoiler: Air Dodge

| Total Frames | Invincibility | Invincibility Duration | End Lag
Mario | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Dr. Mario | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Luigi | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Peach | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Bowser | 34 | 4 - 29 | 26 | 5
Yoshi | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Rosalina & Luma | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Bowser Jr | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Wario | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Mr. Game & Watch | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
Donkey Kong | 34 | 4 - 29 | 26 | 5
Diddy Kong | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
Link | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Zelda | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Sheik | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Ganondorf | 34 | 4 - 29 | 26 | 5
Toon Link | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Samus | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Zero Suit Samus | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Pit | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
Dark Pit | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
Palutena | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Marth | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Lucina | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Ike | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Robin | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Kirby | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
King Dedede | 34 | 4 - 29 | 26 | 5
Meta Knight | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Little Mac | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Fox | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Falco | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
Pikachu | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Charizard | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Lucario | 31 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 6
Jigglypuff | 34 | 4 - 29 | 26 | 5
Greninja | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
Mewtwo | 28 | 2 - 24 | 23 | 4
Duck Hunt | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
R.O.B. | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Ness | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Captain Falcon | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Villager | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Olimar | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Wii Fit Trainer | 31 | 2 - 26 | 25 | 5
Shulk | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Pac-Man | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Megaman | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Sonic | 30 | 2 - 25 | 24 | 5
Mii Brawler | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5
Mii Swordfighter | 33 | 3 - 28 | 26 | 5
Mii Gunner | 32 | 3 - 27 | 25 | 5

 

[Indigo Jeans]

http://smashboards.com/threads/roll-air-dodge-frame-data.401323/

 

[Pikabunz]

Yeah, I just saw that thread.

Oh well, I'll be adding more to this anyways. I'll be doing grabs next.

 

[Siledh]

Great thread, just a tip, could you maybe put the characters in alphabetical order? Just makes them easier to find.

Great info though and really thorough.

 

[Pikabunz]

You can click the space above the names to rearrange them that way. It works for each column. This is why I prefer using charts.

 

[Siledh]

You can click the space above the names to rearrange them that way. It works for each column. This is why I prefer using charts.

Cool, didn't realise that was possible.

 

[Pikabunz]

Added frame data for grabs. It's missing some data for Yoshi, Link, and Lucina though. Can someone help me out with that?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Lucina
Grab Standing: F7
Grab Dashing: F8
Grab Pivoting: F9

Link
Grab Standing: F12
Grab Dashing: F13
Grab Pivoting: F14 presumably, pivot grabs are kind of hard to test (and Link's grabs are a mastercore nightmare)

Yoshi
Grab Standing: F14
Grab Dashing: F11
Grab Pivoting: F10 presumably, pivot grabs are kind of hard to test (but I'm pretty sure about this one)

Yoshi is really weird. Normally grabs go standing > dashing > pivoting in order of speed, and normally there is only a 1-2F difference between them. But for some reason Yoshi's are the opposite? And for some reason they all have 0.9 frame speed multipliers, which slows them down, but the difference is so negligible that the FSM has no practical effect under standard time.

 

[deepseadiva]

Very easy way to compare everything! Thank you so much for doing this!!!

 

[Dabuz]

Amazing.

 

[Nysyr]

So Lucario wen't from having one of the best rolls in Brawl to one of the worst is smash 4. Also has the most punishable air dodge and spot dodge in terms of end lag while not invincible.

Not so good for the character that scales the best with living longer.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Added frame data for grabs. It's missing some data for Yoshi, Link, and Lucina though. Can someone help me out with that?

Lucina is the same as Marth, Yoshi is 14-24, 11-21 and 10-20. Link's is 12-17 (idk his dash and pivot)

 

[Luigi player]

Grabstuff updates from Patch 1.0.8:

Diddy: 31, 38, 36 (+3, +3, +3)
Link: 61, 65, 66 (-5, -12, -12)
Samus: 75, 73, 89 (-4, ±0, -4)
Villager: 55, 69, 65 (-2, -2, -2)

Not sure if it was this patch, but it's different:

ZSS: 68, 71, 79 (±0, ±0, +1)

Took the data from here: http://sixriver.web.fc2.com/ssb4/Character_data.htm

I actually compiled a list of grab endinglag the last few days... and now I saw you already have one and even with grab hitboxes. xD

Welp those are the differences I noticed.

 

[FullMoon]

Man Greninja's rolls are actually pretty bad. No wonder I get into trouble for rolling too often with him.