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Fox needs critique plz :]

bahamutz69

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Hey guys so these matches have been up for a while but i was looking to get some critique on my fox, anything would be nice.
fox vs falco is really what im looking to improve seeing as we cant take dittos seriously over here.

Versus Falcon
Vs Freedom I

Fox dittos

Vs Torj I
Vs Torj II
Vs Freedom I
Vs Freedom II

Versus Falco
Vs Freedom I
Vs Freedom II
Vs Torj I
Vs Torj II

Versus DK
Vs Torj I

Versus Doc
Vs Torj I

also since its justin tv so the mic picks up what we were talking about
theres some shouting, cursing, funny stuff. you can always mute it lol
thanks :]

there also might be some name mix ups and round mix ups, whats on here is what happened.
 

ethan1341

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U can shuffle your Nair Shine WD grab. Instead of just shuffling the nair with the shine
 

ChivalRuse

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I watched a good number of those matches. I don't know. You seem to be doing fine. You could use a little more dash dancing, I guess.

Also, don't feel like you always have to attack. You should be constantly thinking about your opponent's options. How he can attack you and how you can respond. How your opponent will respond if you attack him. Things like that. It's important that you have good positioning on the map. Learn to bait attacks, feign attacks, dodge attacks, edgeguard, tech chase. Just work on those.

Looking forward to see how you progress.
 

bahamutz69

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yea my waveshines were pretty ****sy when we recorded these because i had just decided to start sliding from b>x instead of pressing B>Y, just because it ****s up my timing for falco.

its funny that i just got back from martial arts training and thats what my teacher told me
i think about attacking too much and i need to wait and react more without just standing there and waiting to react lol
im just an agro monkey i guess, but ill try to think about it more
thanks ChivalRuse :]
 

ChivalRuse

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No problem, dude. It's my pleasure. I love Melee, even watching it hehe.

Oh, and I used to take martial arts too. Taekwondo. It was so fun.
 

cykofox

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I only watched a little.

You're bad at pressuring your opponent and seem to have very consistent approaches with nair that will get you punished. You also need more techskill and just basically need more gayer knowlege about the game. But you're not too bad. just need experience and ****...just play the game as much as you can.
 

ChivalRuse

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You're bad at pressuring your opponent and seem to have very consistent approaches with nair that will get you punished.
Nair is like the best approach in the game (other than Falco's SHL). It's not that he's using it too much. It's that he's using it in a punishable way. If you study the way Jman uses nair, you'll see that he's not just throwing it out. He knows when it will hit; even when it doesn't, he always has a plan B he can fall back on.
 

cykofox

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Nair is like the best approach in the game (other than Falco's SHL). It's not that he's using it too much. It's that he's using it in a punishable way. If you study the way Jman uses nair, you'll see that he's not just throwing it out. He knows when it will hit; even when it doesn't, he always has a plan B he can fall back on.
"..have very consistent approaches with nair that will get you punished."

you just said what i said...l2r
 

ChivalRuse

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Oh, sorry. I interpreted what you said as meaning "nair is a bad move that will get you punished" instead of "you use nair in a way that is easily punishable".

My bad. >_<
 

bahamutz69

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lol harsh. but true. i deff do just throw **** out like its nothing, and kinda rely on nairshines to just not get SGd but obviously that doesnt work all the time.
so yea i need to space, all ill watch some of jmans vids, but i think my tech skill is fine, the only thing is waveshines but im pretty sure i stated why earlier.
but theyre pretty much set now, so ill try to get some more vids up
 
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