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Fox in teams. tactics discussion

felix45

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so I've been doing a lot of teams at smashfests around college because there is always around 4-5 people with one TV. and of course I pick only fox because I want to become better with fox.

what are some good teamates for fox and what are some good tricks you can do with fox? I will share some of my findings. I guess I'll just list them off

good teamates for fox:
peach
jiggly puff
shiek

no other teammates really stand out to me when I play w/ them so yea.

now tactics


after dieing, we all know you get invincibility frames, and that your partner is now in a 2v1. easiest way to break it up? run in and usmash both of them (preferably the opponent)
also this gets easy kills too if they aren't paying attention and have high percentage. uair also works when they have high percent

this also works during the match if the opponent doesn't pay attention to you. I know I'm not the only one that notices how 2v2s end up in just 2 separate 1v1 matches a lot. fox is probably the best character at going in and making it a 2v1 battle or 2v2 depending if the opponent follows. now you wont always land the usmash but at least you are keeping your opponents focused on you now, and say if your opponent is jigz, peach, or shiek they all can punish people who aren't paying attention with deadly kill moves or combos (this is why I like them as partners, aside from them also surviving longer than usual in teams)

now for grabs. this only really works when you have killed off one of your opponents, and is pretty much common sense. when your teammate grabs the opponent, you run up right where when they break out of the grab your charged usmash will kill them. or if you are impatient, you can do it while they are still being held. the best time to usmash is when they just break out of the grab because you get more charge time that way but it doesn't matter so long as they die.

another tactic I have found is when your friend grabs and does an up throw if you coordinate it right you can run in and get a uair (another reason why shiek, peach, and jigz are good teammates...all have good uthrow that fox can easily follow up w/ uair)



now all of this requires a teammate very aware of what you are doing and when you are doing it, otherwise with these light teammates you may very well kill them along w/ the opponent. also grab combos require communication with your partner which also is developed.


most of this seems like common sense well....because it is. but I want to hear if anyone has come up with anything that works pretty consistently in teams and maybe some other good partners.



note before posting this is stuff fox can do we are discussing, not how say if fox grabs jigz can rest the person grabbed.
 

Red.

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help your team partner with shines when he is in danger and there is an opening and use them for shine spikes.

Use lasers when your teammate grabs the opponent for pressure.
 

Hylian

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I thought you played shiek felix XD.
 

felix45

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i used to play shiek. now I go all fox because I cant really play anyone else. well I guess I could try shiek again, not like it would take to long to learn...
 

GOTM

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jiggs is one of fox's best teamates. dont know why u dont have that there...

i suck in teams so i really cant help with any of that.
 

felix45

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lol jigz is in there....look at the first post again lol. second character listed of the 3 that i did :p


yeah I think I suck in teams but then other people say I'm one of the best in teams so I dunno what to think.
 

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If the fight has become two 1 v 1 battles I try to situate myself between whoever I'm fighting and the other 1 v 1 battle. From this position I can spam a lot of aerials with shines. Not only does this give me better stage position, but I always have the option of helping out in the other fight. This is pretty straight forward but hasn't been said.
 

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I so thought this was a different felix.

lawl.
 
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fox's best aspect in teams over every other character is his killing potential, so primarily abuse that. lots of uphits shines and bair/nair, even moreso than 1 vs 1.

he plays a secondary role as a supporter, thus ganon makes an excellent teammate for fox in much the same way sheik does and for the same reasons.
 

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Fox puff is a beastly team :). Grab rest ftw.
 
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