fox and wolf.. what is different?

[Torppe]

hmm so i've thinking about that why they did fox and wolf as other characters? and they have exactly same moves!! and there's more there is lucas and ness and link and toon link so.. why they didnt do new characters than doing same the exavtly same character, but it just looks the same? why??

 

[NoobCake]

Uh, actually they are quite different. Off the top of my head, moves that they have that are different include the jabs, ftilt, fair, dair, uair, fsmash, usmash, dsmash, side-b.... they really don't have alot in common. In fact, even the so-called "clones" in brawl are not at all the same, and really do feel different when played.

 

[redgreenblue]

OP is failing it quite hard. The one thing about brawl is that there are no longer any clones. There are a few identical moves (such as Samus and Falcon's utilt) and a few similar looking, but completely different, moves (such as Fox and Falco's dair), but no clones.

 

[NoobCake]

Yes, I completely agree..... thought this had been established already but....I guess not.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Wolf has better midair agility than Fox, despite still being a fast faller. His smash attacks are also a tad faster than Fox's (except for the u-smash).

Fox beats Wolf in dash speed. Wolf hardly moves any faster when dashing compared to his walking movement. Fox's Blaster can also be spammed to rack up damage.

 

[MMhawk607]

you have to look at their smash attacks and special attacks

sure they come from the same game, but Wolf has a different fighting style than fox as established by others above.

Fox's reflector is different too, his reflector can slow him down while falling

wolf's cant

fox's landmaster has a longer time than wolf's but wolf's is stronger

 

[monkeyx4]

you have to look at their smash attacks and special attacks

sure they come from the same game, but Wolf has a different fighting style than fox as established by others above.

Fox's reflector is different too, his reflector can slow him down while falling

wolf's cant

fox's landmaster has a longer time than wolf's but wolf's is stronger

Also fox can do more combos than wolf and Fox gun is faster than wolf and can shoot more at once

 

[gab3]

best be trollin

 

[Torppe]

Ok thank you very much for the information ;P interesting information.

 

[M@v]

OP is failing it quite hard. The one thing about brawl is that there are no longer any clones. There are a few identical moves (such as Samus and Falcon's utilt) and a few similar looking, but completely different, moves (such as Fox and Falco's dair), but no clones.

I agree...On the most part.

Link and toon link?
Captain Falcon and Ganondorf?

Yes, I know they are not DIRECT Clones. But I guess nintendo figures if they change a couple moves they are not a clone anymore(Especially true in captain falcon/ganondorf case).
And about Toon Link., IMO they could have easily gave him an independent move set, and the only thing he has similar to link is arrows:
B move-arrows
Side-B=Hurricane spin
Up-B=Deku leaf
Down=B Skull Hammer.


Back to topic:
Fox and Wolf are NOT clones. Fox and wolfs A moves are completleyt different. Their blasters are pretty much opposite of eachother. Wolf's up B is nothing like firefox, and his side B goes on an angle, with a spiking sweetspot at its peak. His reflector is vulnerable from above as well.

 

[MidnightAsaph]

They're a lot different. Some times, it doesn't look like it, but you have to be really part of Smash to understand how the moves are different. They have similar concepts, but their mechanics are completely dissimilar.

 

[Cardd]

omg
they don't even look or feel like anything close to clones.

Fox and wolf do not have one move the same.

Watch
Move: Fox: Wolf:
usmash- kickflip -Handstand double kick thing
dsmash - splitkick - Back and forth claw attack
fsmash - rolling kick - claw attack(Moves very far)
utilt - lil back kick - up claw attack thing
ftilit - kick - claw rip thing
dtilt - tail - tail (maybe, i can't remember)
a combo - kickkickkickkickickkick - 1-2-3 claw attacl
b - fast, non stunning laser - slow stuning laser
sideb - quick horizontal dash - diagonal dash with short distance and sweetspot
upb - firefox, one hit - wolf flying kick thing, combo with finished end-
downb - reflector, slows down falling- less dmg more dmg, no slow down
nair - kick - flipping thing
bair - back kick - don't remember, maybe back kick
fair - air kick combo - claw thing
dair - drill kick - down claw strike
uair -double kickflip - Up claw strike
So yeah, not the same except for two, maybe three moves.
sry for the format, but it gets my point across.

And the one thing about brawl is there are no clones, at all.

 

[Captain Sa10]

omg
they don't even look or feel like anything close to clones.

Fox and wolf do not have one move the same.

Watch
Move: Fox: Wolf:
usmash- kickflip -Handstand double kick thing
dsmash - splitkick - Back and forth claw attack
fsmash - rolling kick - Lunging claw
utilt - lil back kick - Does a front High Kick
ftilit - kick - claw rip thing
dtilt - tail - Kick trip
a combo - kickkickkickkickickkick - 1-2-3 claw attacl
b - fast, non stunning laser - Large slow stuning laser
sideb - quick horizontal dash - diagonal dash with Semi-long distance and sweetspot
upb - firefox, one hit - wolf flying kick thing, combo with finished end-
downb - reflector, slows down falling less dmg - more dmg, no slow down,stuns and dodges attacks
nair - kick - flipping thing
bair - back kick - Stretched OUt aerial back kick
fair - air kick combo - claw thing
dair - drill kick - down claw strike
uair -double kickflip - Up claw strike
So yeah, not the same except for two, maybe three moves.
sry for the format, but it gets my point across.

And the one thing about brawl is there are no clones, at all.

Change up the things in red. Other then that, you pretty ,uch got it correct.

 

[Raptor Jesus.]

Fox is more agile and quicker about dealing out attacks, while Wolf is slower in both moving and attacking, but stronger.

 

[Fox McCloud 177]

It'd be ignorant to still believe that Wolf and Fox are identical move clones after seeing even a video.

Wolf is heavy, he's hard hitting and very different, yes they all rely on the same thing of speedy surprise attack moves but Toon Link and Link are more identical to eachother I reckon...

 

[Zanoske]

Don't forget that just because they have the same final smash doesn't mean the same stats.

Fox - Lasts Longer, blue colored
Wolf - Stronger but lasts lesser

 

[Digimonkey]

fox's landmaster is like 30 seconds, and wolf's is like 10 seconds

 

[Omega Deman]

Yes, both characters are from the same series. However, as previously mentioned, their moves are significantly altered in damage and appearance. In addition, tactical use and strategy for them is completely different where as in Melee Fox and Falco were very similar.

Fox and Wolf are not clones. Nough said.

 

[acv]

the only cloned thing i see here is this thread.there are like a bunch of threads with the same subject.

 

[Omega Deman]

ACV, I agree.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

They're a lot different. Some times, it doesn't look like it, but you have to be really part of Smash to understand how the moves are different. They have similar concepts, but their mechanics are completely dissimilar.

this is my exact opinion on the "team Starfox" characters. this includes wolf too