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Fox and Speed: The first of the 5 points of Power

kirbykid

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It seems like only yesterday when Fox was zooming around Lylat trying to measure up to his father while battling Andross and taking it all out on General Pepper’s wallet in the end. What doesn’t seem so distant is my memory of being knocked out from the top of the stage by fox’s up-air attack at around 65%. If you haven’t noticed by now, Fox is fast. It’s no secret. And now Sakurai has informed us that fox will continue his lightening rein of terror. Let’s take a look at why speed is so dangerous.
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“Fox is just one of many so-called speed characters.”

Fox’s speed allows him to catch up and destroy his targets out of range of situations. Even after completely missing the target on the first pass, Fox is fast enough to correct himself and give it another shot. His speed alone makes Fox one of the most powerful characters in the game. His move set is also very powerful. But how do we determine how powerful a move is?

After years of research, I’ve concluded that the power of a move is the combination of 5 factors. Today we’ll discuss factor 1: Speed.

<!--more-->In general, for any given move the faster it comes out after the player presses the buttons, the better. After all, the opponent can only react so quickly. So, if the move strikes before they can react to it, the move has a much higher chance of landing a successful blow. Fox’s fastest move is his down+B. Some call it the “G-diffuser.” Some call it “the blink.” Some call it the “shine” or “reflector.” Whatever you call it, all you need to know is this move is one of the fastest moves in the game.

I’ll put it this way. The “shine” is a move that activates one frame after the button is pressed. Because Melee runs in 60 frames per second, this moves strikes after 1/60 of a second. If you still don’t understand how fast it is, approximately 21 shines can occur within the blink of an eye.

The reason speed is so effective in battle is, while the opponent is just beginning to swing his sword at you, you can shine and hit him before he hits you. Or as the opponent bends their knees to leap away from your oncoming shine attack, they’re already stunned from the attack. Or as the muscles in the opponent’s fingers begin to press the shield button, it may already be too late.

And it’s not always about the speed of the move. Fox is often fast enough to run and catch up to his targets that he hits away. This ability to “stay on target”turns almost all of his air moves into a potential combos. Think of it this way. Pick any sport. Football. Basketball. Baseball. Just imagine what would happen if just one player had unimaginable speed. A quick hand off and all of a sudden, the running back is waiting in the in zone. The ball is passed to a teammate and in the next instant he’s dunking the ball all the way down the court. After bunting the ball, the player runs around all the bases with enough time to pick his own ball up. Though these examples are extreme, it’s clear to see that the more speed a player has the more situations like this become a reality. Even the turn based game Chess has a speed mode. Speed is universally good.

Fox is the perfect example of raw speed. The faster the character moves, the faster the player has to input commands. This is why showing off with fox can clearly display a player’s technical abilities. Anyone who thinks Melee isn’t too fast hasn’t seen a good fox player in action. I’ve been known to go into overdrive with fox. After several flashes of light, someone always ends up dead. Sometimes it’s me. “with great power comes great responsibility.” I hope Sakarai knows what he’s doing this time.
 
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IC2

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Fox is fast but he has a slow recovery time.. even slower than falcos..
 
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Grey

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Many of the techs that separate the greats from the average players though rely on bugs in the way the game handles certain situations. We’ll probably be seeing a nerf if not an outright removal of Wavedashing, and perhaps even SHFFLing.

A good fox will use both of these to his advantage, things that we’re not sure even will be able to be used in SSBB.
 

kirbykid

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Fox’s recovery time is a lot faster than most characters. Between his wall jump, side+B, up+B (which are all pretty fast) he has a lot of variety to mix it up too.

Many of the techs that separate the greats from the average players though rely on bugs in the way the game handles certain situations. We’ll probably be seeing a nerf if not an outright removal of Wavedashing, and perhaps even SHFFLing.

I’m sorry Greg, but most of the advanced techniques don’t rely on bugs. Wavedashing is not a bug. It’s a special tweening animation to make the game look smoother allowing the characters to keep some momentum from their actions.

Also, SHFFLing is not a bug. Seriously, this was even in the original smash. It’s a wonderful synthesis of being able to short up, pressure drop, attack, and L-cancel. They may take out or change L-canceling in Brawl, but they probably won’t change any of it.

Moves like L-canceling have a lot of benefits to a competitive game. It’s something that isn’t necessarily hard, but the player has to maintain it throughout the entire match. This requires stamina and focus. As the player gets tired, their character literally slows down, making him more susceptible to attacks. In this way, opponents can see how tired you are without even looking at your face.

It’s quite brilliant.
 
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Darkfur

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I frankly tired of people constantly calling them bugs. *sigh*
 
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Esahc

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“one of the many speed characters” (sonic anyone!) and its not down b its side b
 
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Rupe

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I have to agree with KirbyKid and Darkfur, those aren’t bugs.
Wavedashing might be considered an exploit but it was certainly know about during testing and was left in regardless.
And many fighting games have kinds of L-canceling, it’s a feature they provided for the gamers who want a deeper level of play.

p.s. Esahc, if you think he meant side b, you’re playing it wrong.
 
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Anthony

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“The most powerful character in the game.”

Easily a matter of opinion.
 

kirbykid

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“Easily a matter of opinion.”

Oh really?
Assuming I’m using some kind of criteria to determine power, wouldn’t some characters be more powerful than others?

Fox rocks Kirby right?

Well, wouldn’t one character have to be at the top of the list?
As long as I can back it up with provable statements, it’s not really an opinion, right?

The only thing left to do is disagree with my criteria.
 
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Darkfur

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Where was that said? I thought they said “one of” meaning plural and that there were others. His speed is very advantageous, and thats where “one of the” comes into play.
 

kirbykid

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DarkFur,

I think you’re confusing Sakurai’s statement with my own. Sakurai talked about Fox being a speed character. Anthony and I were talking about whether Fox’s supreme power is my opinion or not.
 

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Ah Yes…..aN ENtire Blog on one charatcer, HM HM HM HM HM
Tis easier to be said, no other way may it be done. From here on Forth and hence,
As they Say in the Media these days…..
“Let the BLog Wars Commence”
 
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shadow

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oh yea, if fox is in this game falco should be in brawl with him
 
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